General CV related discussions.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

6 hours ago, redraven said:

And im sorry but sarcasm in this manner comes across rather hard.

 

As Barney usually does a good impersonation of a 12 year old kawaii loli detecting sarcasm is a really, really, REALLY hard task..

[Miscommunication_dept]

I’ve heard a couple of CCs saying that fighters have been buffed. Is this true?

 

How were they buffed?

[Pikkozoikum]

36 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

I’ve heard a couple of CCs saying that fighters have been buffed. Is this true?

 

How were they buffed?

A fighter skill (4 pt.) got buffed last patch. Before that, that skill reduced the fighter patrol duration. Now instead of reducing that time, it gets increased.

[El_Pepega]

It has been 2 years since the cv rework and they still couldn't stop nerfing them . And it can be seen that the number of players playing cv is even lower than RTS times. CV rework was a success clearly.

[ChatBanForSayingTruth]

Whoever thought making rockets literally unusable must be using some cheap drugs :) Seriously lol :D

[Vbeest]

After a short play in training room against moving bots (Gearing, bot setting: active/unarmed; mind, the bots once in the cap start to move slowly) with Graf Zeppelin (3.9 s delay time) I may say the rocket planes are dead. This was against DDs that were spotted by the Carrier itself (secondary guns OFF). Hitting any DD in combat situation is impossible now. This is with GZ attackers that are very nimble and allow to preadjust reticle before the lock on and also can slow down quite effectively. Every other carrier is even more useless.

 

Of course, according to Elrazer it is easier to hit DDs than before, lol.

 

In the evening I will check whether hitting cruisers is still possible... GG, WG.

[Kyorinn]

25 dakika önce, Vbeest dedi:

After a short play in training room against moving bots (Gearing, bot setting: active/unarmed; mind, the bots once in the cap start to move slowly) with Graf Zeppelin (3.9 s delay time) I may say the rocket planes are dead. This was against DDs that were spotted by the Carrier itself (secondary guns OFF). Hitting any DD in combat situation is impossible now. This is with GZ attackers that are very nimble and allow to preadjust reticle before the lock on and also can slow down quite effectively. Every other carrier is even more useless.

 

Of course, according to Elrazer it is easier to hit DDs than before, lol.

 

In the evening I will check whether hitting cruisers is still possible... GG, WG.

oh no cv rockets are bad now!










anyways

[ChatBanForSayingTruth]

10 minutes ago, COMRADE_2019 said:

oh no cv rockets are bad now!










anyways

You have been hurt bad by those?

[arquata2019_]

20 minuti fa, COMRADE_2019 ha scritto:

oh no cv rockets are bad now!










anyways

Playing HVAR midway, having fun blapping cruisers broadsiding me and battleships and CVs. can't attack DDs with those, that's for sure. if you use an USN CV or a CV that has HE bombs, use them, like before. you still blap people very easily, like hallands

[Kyorinn]

17.06.2021 saat 15:36'de, _Robertas_ dedi:

You have been hurt bad by those?

i have been hurting people bad with those and i know how they feel

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

6 hours ago, _Robertas_ said:

Whoever thought making rockets literally unusable must be using some cheap drugs :) Seriously lol :D

Unusable? You must be kidding. You cant even cheapo kill off low hp ca and bb targets at 2 km range anymore with them? Cant set fires with them? Cant spot stuff? Can't hit broadside light cruiser with them? Or are you just miffed you need some map awareness, skills and teamwork to kill dds now?

[Sink_Different]

5 hours ago, _Robertas_ said:

You have been hurt bad by those?

Yet you're the one crying.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

7 hours ago, _Robertas_ said:

Whoever thought making rockets literally unusable must be using some cheap drugs :) Seriously lol :D

 

...or just dodge

oh.. wait...

[Bainsmit_steel]

7 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

Playing HVAR midway, having fun blapping cruisers broadsiding me and battleships and CVs. can't attack DDs with those, that's for sure. if you use an USN CV or a CV that has HE bombs, use them, like before. you still blap people very easily, like hallands

And what about ijn line? Or german line? I do agree that usn line is not hurt much and prob uk line bjt ijn and germans are...also enterprise and saipan are nerfed considerably....outcome of this will be lover cv poulation which many will cheer and  dds aee now even stronger ie has even bigger influance in game

[Deckeru_Maiku]

17 minutes ago, Bainsmit_steel said:

And what about ijn line? Or german line? I do agree that usn line is not hurt much and prob uk line bjt ijn and germans are...also enterprise and saipan are nerfed considerably....outcome of this will be lover cv poulation which many will cheer and  dds aee now even stronger ie has even bigger influance in game

Yeah, a horrible thought that CVs suddenly are helpeless victims of the circumstances and have utterly no targets left, now that they can't rocketspam DDs any longer...

Oh.. wait...

Nah.. BaBBies are surely not worth it going after them, right?

[Bainsmit_steel]

Just now, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Yeah, a horrible thought that CVs suddenly are helpeless victims of the circumstances and have utterly no targets left, now that they can't rocketspam DDs any longer...

Oh.. wait...

Nah.. BaBBies are surely not worth it going after them, right?

It is norbad or good i just say that dds will be even more dominant and that even less people will p!ay cvs then now which will be cheered by many...

[arquata2019_]

3 ore fa, COMRADE_2019 ha scritto:

i have been hurting peoples bad by those and i know how they feel

Yesterday in CBs i killed so many Hallands, USN line isn't affected at all, you use bombs, you're happier

[Deckeru_Maiku]

10 minutes ago, Bainsmit_steel said:

It is norbad or good i just say that dds will be even more dominant and that even less people will p!ay cvs then now which will be cheered by many...

Unlike against CVs there are ample options to defend against DDs. Of course it takes a little bit of brains... which might be the biggest problem with DDs, considering the average skill level and - probably - IQ of WoWs players..

[TsunamiACR]

Sincerely, the CVs have been loaded with this change and I have colleagues who are changing the game for this change and as they do not adjust it they will not return because not only does it take longer to shoot but you also tell them where you have shot right now the DDs do not have to no one to stop them and now they have a free way to kill everything that is found

 

[Sunleader]

1 hour ago, TsunamiACR said:

Sincerely, the CVs have been loaded with this change and I have colleagues who are changing the game for this change and as they do not adjust it they will not return because not only does it take longer to shoot but you also tell them where you have shot right now the DDs do not have to no one to stop them and now they have a free way to kill everything that is found

 

 

Considering how many DD Players left the Game due to CVs.

I doubt your Friends are noteworthy.

 

Also.

With all the Radars and the Fact that HE DBs still massacre DDs as well as the Fact that even Cruiser Secondaries are suddenly Shooting at DDs etc.

DDs are far from Dominating right now.

 

They are still the second most Influental class after CVs.

Same as before.

And their Influence can still be Shattered quickly by a CV spotting them.

 

 

TLDR

Game Balance has barely Changed.

Only the Balance inside the CV Class has Shifted away from IJN CVs and more to US CVs.

[ghostbuster_]

6 hours ago, TsunamiACR said:

Sincerely, the CVs have been loaded with this change and I have colleagues who are changing the game for this change and as they do not adjust it they will not return because not only does it take longer to shoot but you also tell them where you have shot right now the DDs do not have to no one to stop them and now they have a free way to kill everything that is found

 

So, your friends were playing only because it was broken and regardless how good the DD player is they could kill that DD easly? 

Btw. HE DBs can still do that.

[Camperdown]

4 hours ago, Sunleader said:

 

Considering how many DD Players left the Game due to CVs.

I doubt your Friends are noteworthy.

 

Also.

With all the Radars and the Fact that HE DBs still massacre DDs as well as the Fact that even Cruiser Secondaries are suddenly Shooting at DDs etc.

DDs are far from Dominating right now.

 

They are still the second most Influental class after CVs.

Same as before.

And their Influence can still be Shattered quickly by a CV spotting them.

 

 

TLDR

Game Balance has barely Changed.

Only the Balance inside the CV Class has Shifted away from IJN CVs and more to US CVs.

One observation: as a DD main (and not a unicum) I find CVs just a nuisance in most cases. Only if a good player focuses on you it is a problem. For the rest you just play around a CV, just like you play around radar etc. 

 

I don't see any reason why DD players would have to leave the game. In actual gameplay (many not very good CV players) I think the effect of CVs on DDs is often overstated. DDs are still a very influential class and much more fun to play than the stationary pigeon homes.

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, Camperdown said:

I don't see any reason why DD players would have to leave the game. In actual gameplay (many not very good CV players) I think the effect of CVs on DDs is often overstated. DDs are still a very influential class and much more fun to play than the stationary pigeon homes.

 

Many DD players are not particularly good either, so on them the impact of even a terrible CV player is much higher. If you're going to take the average player into account, do it for all classes.

Besides irrespective of whether they actually have a good reason to quit or not, the number of DD players is in direct correlation with how many CV players there are as we have previously seen in data provided by WG themselves.

[geschlittert]

13 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

 

...or just dodge

oh.. wait...

*just aim :)

[Deckeru_Maiku]

10 hours ago, TsunamiACR said:

... right now the DDs do not have to no one to stop them and now they have a free way to kill everything that is found

 

 

Marked the important - although utterly stupid and false - thing said

 

3 hours ago, Camperdown said:

I don't see any reason why DD players would have to leave the game.

 

re-read what he wrote.. it's not DD players, but frustrated CV players, whose only fun in the game to make DD players life a bit more miserable by sicking their rocket planes upon them... probably a bunch of ~40% CV players, who, when attacking anything but DDs, only manage to play "Flak Pokemon Go"