General CV related discussions.

[geschlittert]

5 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

CV population is currently dying quite hard.

As a result CV players have to wait longer in queue, resulting in queue overextension and thus the possibility of 2 CV per team matches even in high tiers.

 

So paradoxically an increase in 4 CV matches is the result of fewer CVs in queue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

At least CV population is dying, thats something positive :)

Do you have any numbers for this?

[ObiWankov]

6 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

CV population is currently dying quite hard.

As a result CV players have to wait longer in queue, resulting in queue overextension and thus the possibility of 2 CV per team matches even in high tiers.

 

So paradoxically an increase in 4 CV matches is the result of fewer CVs in queue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

doesn’t make sense to me...

 

if you have 3 people in queue for a long time, why not send the first two into a battle to begin with? specially with low population of players in a class it should never come to double cv games (of the same tier at last), since there are enough players of other classes to start games for the few cvs playing

[Prophecy82]

6 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

CV population is currently dying quite hard.

 

I wonder why tho? 

CVs didnt get shafted at all by Capt-Rework... in fact I think they are stronger then ever. 

Did the vets finally got bored or disgusted by WG? And the Nooblords cant handle neither DDs nor BB AA?

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, geschlittert said:

Do you have any numbers for this?

 

 

 

 

 

This was from the week before last. Last week's numbers are practically no different. With the exception of SEA CV population is generally lower than RTS was.

As to why this is happening, no idea tbh.

 

I will say though the past few weeks have been the first time since RTS that I had to wait longer than 4 minutes in queue for a match in a CV during peak hours.

 

51 minutes ago, ObiWankov said:

if you have 3 people in queue for a long time, why not send the first two into a battle to begin with? specially with low population of players in a class it should never come to double cv games (of the same tier at last), since there are enough players of other classes to start games for the few cvs playing

 

They don't necessarily have to queue in the same tier. E.g. lets assume a CV at T10 is overextending in queue while 2 T8 CVs are sitting in normal queue waiting for a match. Another T10 CV joins queue, so all 4 CV players will be sent into a match because of the overextending T10 CV player.

The only way to avoid this is to hard code a limit like back in RTS which WG ofc refuses to do.

[arttuperkunas]

2 hours ago, geschlittert said:

At least CV population is dying, thats something positive :)

Do you have any numbers for this?

Positive? 

 

You do understand this makes another round of AA nerfs/CV buffs inevitable?

[Bainsmit_steel]

I have more games with CVs then with all other class combined but in past month I play CVs just sporadically...first ques are longer then for other ships and I do not have much time like I used to have, second I got bored a bit so in effort to finish game quickly I do bad mistakes, third community is super toxic to CV players so I guess that many leave...this is for T 10 cv plays

 

For t 4,6 and 8 I would not say that there are lack of CV players.

[capt_and]

Hello there, I want to ask you a question: I have enough gold to convert xp and get the Lexington, or to get the Saipan, which one do I take??? Lexington or Saipan???

 

[Lordcrafty]

2 minutes ago, capt_and said:

Hello there, I want to ask you a question: I have enough gold to convert xp and get the Lexington, or to get the Saipan, which one do I take??? Lexington or Saipan???

 

never convert gold to free xp, get saipan or kaga ifyou want to since you can get lexington for free later by playing ranger.

[1MajorKoenig]

Just now, capt_and said:

Hello there, I want to ask you a question: I have enough gold to convert xp and get the Lexington, or to get the Saipan, which one do I take??? Lexington or Saipan???

 

Why convert XP? You can just play the line and get Lexington without Gold? 
 

Ranger is a fun ship to practice - I wouldn’t recommend to skip her. 
 

Saipan is very nice but has low plane reserves and requires good squadron management. I think she is a very good way to learn CVs better but you need to put in more effort compared to eg Kaga. 
 

Cheers

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

2 minutes ago, capt_and said:

Hello there, I want to ask you a question: I have enough gold to convert xp and get the Lexington, or to get the Saipan, which one do I take??? Lexington or Saipan???

 

My betters can give you more information, but here goes:

 

1. Don't spend gold on xp. Take the time to learn the classes and get the ships with normal xp.

 

2. Saipan is really hard to do well in. If you're a good CV main, get it. Otherwise, listen to what @Excavatus has to say.

[arttuperkunas]

3 minutes ago, capt_and said:

Hello there, I want to ask you a question: I have enough gold to convert xp and get the Lexington, or to get the Saipan, which one do I take??? Lexington or Saipan???

 

Can I assume from your question that you have only played tier 4 CVs? As if you had played Tier 6 cvs extensively, I would expect that you would get Lexington or Saipan through normal experience.

 

Do I have to say the obvious, i.e. what an awful idea it is to get a T8 CV if you have nothing but kiddie pool experience of the class?

[Lordcrafty]

2 hours ago, Prophecy82 said:

 

I wonder why tho? 

CVs didnt get shafted at all by Capt-Rework... in fact I think they are stronger then ever. 

Did the vets finally got bored or disgusted by WG? And the Nooblords cant handle neither DDs nor BB AA?

CVs are awful to play in steamrolls I guess, and also the massive amount of clumping that seems to be present in randoms right now should make it harder/less fun for the average CV player to play.

 

5 minutes ago, Bindolaf_Werebane said:

Otherwise, listen to what @Excavatus has to say.

why are you pinging Excavatus? If you mean a post that they made a while ago you could just quote it...

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

I am pinging him, because he likes Saipan and plays it well. I am not going to search for his old posts, though.

[capt_and]

2 minuti fa, arttuperkunas ha scritto:

Do I have to say the obvious, i.e. what an awful idea it is to get a T8 CV if you have nothing but kiddie pool experience of the class?

Yes of course you're right, but since I have a decent amount of gold I wanted to spend it into something, and these 2 ships are quite interesting also i'm not a good BB or DD player and cruisers atm are not in the best position.

[Bindolaf_Werebane]

4 minutes ago, capt_and said:

Yes of course you're right, but since I have a decent amount of gold I wanted to spend it into something, and these 2 ships are quite interesting also i'm not a good BB or DD player and cruisers atm are not in the best position.

I'd say, if you absolutely want to spend gold, get a ship you want, not xp. Play the Ranger! It's a fun CV, forgiving and hard-hitting. Then, get Lexington when it's time. However, your gold, your decision. 

[Prophecy82]

20 minutes ago, Lordcrafty said:

CVs are awful to play in steamrolls I guess, and also the massive amount of clumping that seems to be present in randoms right now should make it harder/less fun for the average CV player to play.

 

But tbh. that is nothing new and existed long before the Cap-Reework....

[Lordcrafty]

5 minutes ago, Prophecy82 said:

 

But tbh. that is nothing new and existed long before the Cap-Reework....

it has gotten a little bit worse lately though.

 

edit: or at least more attention has been drawn to it now with all the talk about deadeye

[arttuperkunas]

38 minutes ago, capt_and said:

Yes of course you're right, but since I have a decent amount of gold I wanted to spend it into something, and these 2 ships are quite interesting also i'm not a good BB or DD player and cruisers atm are not in the best position.

I wish I had your problems, too many doubloons weighing down my trousers :(.

[Lordcrafty]

9 minutes ago, arttuperkunas said:

I wish I had your problems, too many doubloons weighing down my trousers :(.

I only have the problem of too many credits, I'm too lazy to grind lines.

[arttuperkunas]

20 minutes ago, Lordcrafty said:

I only have the problem of too many credits, I'm too lazy to grind lines.

You can convert some into tacky permacamos for T8 boats if you haven't done that already? (the Big Hunt event)

[Lordcrafty]

1 minute ago, arttuperkunas said:

You can convert some into tacky permacamos for T8 boats if you haven't done that already? (the Big Hunt event)

I've already bought both credit bundles, now I just need to do something with the 300 million excess credits still lying around

[AndyHill]

3 hours ago, Bainsmit_steel said:

community is super toxic to CV players so I guess that many leave...

Does that actually work? Permanent chatban, here I come.

[Lordcrafty]

8 minutes ago, AndyHill said:

Does that actually work? Permanent chatban, here I come.

yes yes, do continue. When there's only the true CV mains left it will be much much more fun.

[BLUB__BLUB]

18 hours ago, VIadoCro said:

40% HP gone in one strike, traded for two planes 

That 20K can only happen if he gets you front-to-rear (or vice versa). 

And he has to be (quite) lucky to hit all the bombs on anything smaller than a Stalingrad.

And you didn't smoke up (no chance if you did). And it would have been 6 planes dead, at least. 

Any other CV would have done it, and probably easier. 

 

Unless that was you, being spotted, sitting parked up behind an island... just waiting for SH.. to happen?

Anyway I never manage to do something like that... if I would, my record would be >> 400K... 

That said FDR is just broken AF. But how broken is it?

 

I'm kinda curious what would happen if Masterrr @El2aZeR would get FDR. 

It is the kind of curiousness tha tis not exactly healthy though. Comparable to...

...well.. let's say, trying what will happen if you smack an elastic rubber band on a lions nuts. 

And could you do it without waking him up, knowing you'll actually better not know. 

 

My guess is though, 20 minutes, so say a drop every 40 secs - that is 30 drops x 20k plus fires/flooding...

800K or so, maybe 1000k damage. Hot damn. In fact. Maybe. Better try the lion. 

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

5 hours ago, Lordcrafty said:

CVs are awful to play in steamrolls I guess, and also the massive amount of clumping that seems to be present in randoms right now should make it harder/less fun for the average CV player to play.

Yes but when steamroll coming up, at least you can see it clearly when in a CV.

Then just farm damage as fast as you can. It's still kinda meh, win or lose.

 

Happens in all tiers. If it didn't, my average damage in FDR would be 150k or so. 

Instead it is around 95K (solo) and ~10K more than MvR.