[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #7776 Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Fact is that I tried and I can't do it. A Halland in the open, means I get the full dakka. Sure you MIGHT get 3 drops off. If you can move behind a mountain after you dropped, so you can escape the AA while loitering. As this loitering is not avoidable, and you claim he had you perma-spotted, that means he spent at least 1.5 minutes in Halland AA. Well, I am sure there are some here that can calculate if that is even possible. It does depend if all AA mounts are still alive.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7777 Posted March 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: It does depend if all AA mounts are still alive.. First time you meet Halland half your planes are dead if you are not careful (= GTFO ASAP). Now try loitering for 1.5 minutes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7778 Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Fact is that I tried and I can't do it. A Halland in the open, means I get the full dakka. Sure you MIGHT get 3 drops off. If you can move behind a mountain after you dropped, so you can escape the AA while loitering. As this loitering is not avoidable, and you claim he had you perma-spotted, that means he spent at least 1.5 minutes in Halland AA. Well, I am sure there are some here that can calculate if that is even possible. Maybe you are just not a very good cv player... just saying. Whether YOU can do it or not means nothing, the fact is it happened, saying ‘this loitering is not avoidable’ is frankly silly. I literally have no idea where you got 90 seconds from either or how its relevant. Either way, you are flat out wrong to claim its not possible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7779 Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: First time you meet Halland half your planes are dead if you are not careful (= GTFO ASAP). Now try loitering for 1.5 minutes. ‘If you are not careful’... 1.5 minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7780 Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnMac79 said: I literally have no idea where you got 90 seconds from either or how its relevant. How about, 3 drops and 30 secs waiting between drops, for FDR? Just saying... maybe you should hesitate to claim somebody is not very good, if you do not know very much yourself. But it's OK, I meet many DD-REEEEEE babbies. True that DDs have a hard life. But your whining makes me think they deserve it. And yes to keep a Halland spotted you will get his AA for 3 drops time - FDR = 30 secs between drops. Enjoy the wining DD babbies. I'll just get them where I can and think of the likes of you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7781 Posted March 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: How about, 3 drops and 30 secs waiting between drops, for FDR? Just saying... maybe you should hesitate to claim somebody is not very good, if you do not know very much yourself. But it's OK, I meet many DD-REEEEEE babbies. True that DDs have a hard life. But your whining makes me think they deserve it. And yes to keep a Halland spotted you will get his AA for 3 drops time - FDR = 30 secs between drops. Enjoy the wining DD babbies. I'll just get them where I can and think of the likes of you. I never played fdr so i dont know the drop times, but to be honest i dont really care either as it doesnt change the facts. What i can tell you is i was dropped 3 times, was perma spotted and died to prolonged enemy fire from being spotted. This is a FACT. Claiming it cannot be possible because YOU cannot do it is daft. You yourself have admitted you are not very good, so what are we arguing about here? A not very good player claiming i am lying because you cannot replicate something is silly, going on to call me a dd baby doesnt make my experience any less of a fact. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7782 Posted March 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: I never played fdr so i dont know the drop times, but to be honest i dont really care either as it doesnt change the facts. What i can tell you is i was dropped 3 times, was perma spotted and died to prolonged enemy fire from being spotted. This is a FACT. Claiming it cannot be possible because YOU cannot do it is daft. You yourself have admitted you are not very good, so what are we arguing about here? A not very good player claiming i am lying because you cannot replicate something is silly, going on to call me a dd baby doesnt make my experience any less of a fact. Look DD-babbie, maybe you should get a Thunderer then and spam from the rear. I may not be the best CV player around, but your claim is impossible,. Halland has an air-detection radius that is quite small. To detect you for 3 drops, FDR has to stay within that detection range for 1.5 minutes. His planes will not survive. Certainly not because FDR has large squads. It is impossible to be near a Halland and not eat any FLAK. The only way is to turn and boost out if you spot him. Then you CAN spot him again, but the risk is again the same. Unless you were shooting, in which case he can be further away to spot you, but you will also be spotted by anyone within your firing range. And that is not the CV then that is spotting you, it is you being a dufus. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7783 Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnMac79 said: ‘If you are not careful’... 1.5 minutes... time taken for FDR to perform 3 attack runs is over a minute minimum so I don't know why you think that's wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7784 Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lordcrafty said: time taken for FDR to perform 3 attack runs is over a minute minimum so I don't know why you think that's wrong. ...because he believes that being unicum or not determines what is the truth? Not saying that FDR isn't broken - but come on, 3 attacks and perma-spotting... LMAO. I'm not THAT good but I do smell BS here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7785 Posted March 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: ...because he believes that being unicum or not determines what is the truth? Not saying that FDR isn't broken - but come on, 3 attacks and perma-spotting... LMAO. I'm not THAT good but I do smell BS here. hmm, I do want to see the replay. There's two main possibilities from what I see: they didn't manage their priority sector, AA on/off, and DFAA properly or their AA had been touched inappropriately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #7786 Posted March 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Lordcrafty said: hmm, I do want to see the replay. There's two main possibilities from what I see: they didn't manage their priority sector, AA on/off, and DFAA properly or their AA had been touched inappropriately I think they were shooting and also as such not spotted by the CV, and he got out of their AA, else he'd not have made three attacks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7787 Posted March 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: I think they were shooting and also as such not spotted by the CV, and he got out of their AA, else he'd not have made three attacks. half expect this from the average WoWs player tbh, even if it's not the case here: "since DFAA is useless there's no point in using it anyway" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GNG] buttonF1 Players 64 posts 12,738 battles Report post #7788 Posted March 9, 2021 WTF is this M.IMMELMAN how broken this is 3 torp strikes enough to delete T9 BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #7789 Posted March 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, buttonF1 said: WTF is this M.IMMELMAN how broken this is 3 torp strikes enough to delete T9 BB Really? Hmm... interesting What is the torp damage like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GNG] buttonF1 Players 64 posts 12,738 battles Report post #7790 Posted March 9, 2021 25k with 7 torps and twise broke engine and rudder the rest is flooding and next skip bombs ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7791 Posted March 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, buttonF1 said: WTF is this M.IMMELMAN how broken this is 3 torp strikes enough to delete T9 BB nonono, I'm really looking forward to this one, I want it to be competitive with midway at least so it sounds like it's almost there don't ruin it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7792 Posted March 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, buttonF1 said: 25k with 7 torps and twise broke engine and rudder the rest is flooding and next skip bombs ... first time meeting a CV that knows how to left click? Not unlikely tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7793 Posted March 9, 2021 5 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said: I think they were shooting and also as such not spotted by the CV, and he got out of their AA, else he'd not have made three attacks. You think wrong. 6 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said: ...because he believes that being unicum or not determines what is the truth? Not saying that FDR isn't broken - but come on, 3 attacks and perma-spotting... LMAO. I'm not THAT good but I do smell BS here. The truth is what i described and like i said, your 'expert' opinion of it doesnt mean a damn thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7794 Posted March 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: You think wrong. The truth is what i described and like i said, your 'expert' opinion of it doesnt mean a damn thing. out of genuine interest, do you have the replay? You had DFAA active right? you were using your priority sector? Maybe if you were dying to the spotting you needed to disable your AA to go undetected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[VICE] JohnMac79 Players 1,872 posts 18,680 battles Report post #7795 Posted March 9, 2021 Just now, Lordcrafty said: out of genuine interest, do you have the replay? You had DFAA active right? you were using your priority sector? I just looked and no i only have one Halland replay and its not from the CV game. In fact my replays folder only has 30 replays in it, im sure they used to store WAY more than this. And yes, used a full def aa duration and used priority sector as i would meeting any other CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #7796 Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: What is the torp damage like? Literally GZ torps, just drops 4 of them per attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MM] Panzer_Guido [-MM] Players 155 posts 23,422 battles Report post #7797 Posted March 9, 2021 Related sidenote. Unicums playing CV in 1v1 brawl are kinda sad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7798 Posted March 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, JohnMac79 said: I just looked and no i only have one Halland replay and its not from the CV game. In fact my replays folder only has 30 replays in it, im sure they used to store WAY more than this. And yes, used a full def aa duration and used priority sector as i would meeting any other CV. I was probably wrong in my assumption that halland could just about prevent a 3rd strike from FDR or at least make it close I did have some bad habits when I first played FDR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Lordcrafty Players 467 posts 11,760 battles Report post #7799 Posted March 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Panzer_Guido said: Related sidenote. Unicums playing CV in 1v1 brawl are kinda sad. I have an excuse, I have to for my quest to get 1500 kills in CVs so I'm playing implac to at least make it a bit more fair. I'm going to rank out with only implac because I'm a madman. What do you mean by "unicums" though? Being unicum in CV is pretty meaningless and easy, and being unicum in surface ships doesn't say anything about your CV play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_cwVecOS6ecVy Players 2,021 posts Report post #7800 Posted March 9, 2021 Just had my Kidd with set AA priority sector and running DFAA against a Lexington rocket strike. She performed 2 full passes and my Kidd shot down 1 (one) plane. Things really have changed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
