General CV related discussions.

[DecisiveTime]

Return to our sea!Back to our sky!
We are surface ship players！
We are no divsion players!
Why we must crouch in the corner hiding?
Why we cant sail free in this 10x10 map？
Why must we be detected by CV's unintentional actions？
Why we cant destroy all planes even use aa?
Why must we endure CV's mockery?
Why we cant revolt CV?
Arise! All those who want to sail free!
We must unite！
Eliminate CV tyranny!The sea belongs to surface ship!

[ThePopesHolyFinger]

15 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Makes the CV player think.

Well, now you've made the assumption that most CV players can think

weegee are pushing CVs so much that, more often than not, Co_Op games have CVs regardless of whether a human is playing CV. It's like they really don't give a flying [edited]about what we say, they're doing it anyway.
And they wonder why folk have little regard for them

[Excavatus]

14 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

Because in the end the likelihood of you ending up deplaned is practically nonexistent in the AA environment nowadays anyway regardless of how many planes you sacrifice to kill a single ship.

You should tell that to the enemy Sanzang last night, 

spent a total of 8 mins just sending all the planes after a Wooster behind an island inside the cap.. 

and then complained next 5 mins of how he had no planes left :) 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

You should tell that to the enemy Sanzang last night, 

spent a total of 8 mins just sending all the planes after a Wooster behind an island inside the cap.. 

and then complained next 5 mins of how he had no planes left :) 

Probably time for WG to put some warning markings into the game, to give potato CVs a hint which ships still have some AA left that might be able to shoot down a plane or five if they try to attack them. I mean, come on, can't have those poor little flying potatoes - insert mental picture of Mr. Potatohead with angel wings here - have their battle ruined due to some nasty AA ships... that might lead to the number of CVs go down... Nerf AA! Nao!

[Molly_Delaney]

40 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Probably time for WG to put some warning markings into the game, to give potato CVs a hint which ships still have some AA left that might be able to shoot down a plane or five if they try to attack them. I mean, come on, can't have those poor little flying potatoes - insert mental picture of Mr. Potatohead with angel wings here - have their battle ruined due to some nasty AA ships... that might lead to the number of CVs go down... Nerf AA! Nao!

If the loss of planes isn't enough on one but then if they are playing like:

 

 

[CptBarney]

1 hour ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Probably time for WG to put some warning markings into the game, to give potato CVs a hint which ships still have some AA left that might be able to shoot down a plane or five if they try to attack them. I mean, come on, can't have those poor little flying potatoes - insert mental picture of Mr. Potatohead with angel wings here - have their battle ruined due to some nasty AA ships... that might lead to the number of CVs go down... Nerf AA! Nao!

Maybe a potatoes rating so the higher the rating the easier the ship, from 0 being el2azer level of competence to 10 potatoes or one sack of potatoes meaning a corpse could play said ship (not quite there yet).

Maybe also make 1/2, 1/4 and 3/4 potatoes for better accuracy.

 

Too allow for monetization and player retention there will also be different coloured potatoes as well and skins too.

[Capra76]

3 hours ago, Excavatus said:

You should tell that to the enemy Sanzang last night, 

spent a total of 8 mins just sending all the planes after a Wooster behind an island inside the cap.. 

and then complained next 5 mins of how he had no planes left :) 

 

From the Wiki:

Cons:

• Low plane count per squadron and on deck.
• Horrible plane restoration time of more than 2 minutes for torpedo and dive bombers, and 117s restoration for attack aircraft.

 

The exception that proves the rule?

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

3 hours ago, Excavatus said:

You should tell that to the enemy Sanzang last night, 

spent a total of 8 mins just sending all the planes after a Wooster behind an island inside the cap.. 

and then complained next 5 mins of how he had no planes left :) 

Pointing to the worst players possible. 

[Excavatus]

38 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Pointing to the worst players possible. 

but we should encourage them, because they are the reasons why CVs are balanced :)

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

7 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

but we should encourage them, because they are the reasons why CVs are balanced :)

You are encouraging the worst party in that case: WG

[BLUB__BLUB]

On 3/3/2021 at 11:19 AM, DFens_666 said:

So why not train AA gunners so to say. If your AA is active, your AA gunners get more accurate over time.

I think that would be a handy and kinda fair captain-skill, if it works like that. 

As in, every time the CV attacks you THEN the AA is stronger next time. 

But how do we ascertain that he is attacking? Does he have to hit you? 

 

Or just "if you spot the planes". Damn those DDs then with their 2.x km detection range. 

I'd then just fly along the map border and screw every BB from behind. More "long range backspamming".

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, Excavatus said:

You should tell that to the enemy Sanzang last night, 

spent a total of 8 mins just sending all the planes after a Wooster behind an island inside the cap.. 

and then complained next 5 mins of how he had no planes left :) 

I (almost) managed to lose all planes in FDR. In that game our team was totally spud. 

But i was in a div with my teammates, both in Thunderer. One managed 4 kills and 250K. 

The other got 180k and 3 kills. I managed 190K and 2 kills in FDR. We still lost... but it was fun.

In the endgame I had only squads left with 3-5 planes. All out of torpedo-planes...  

 

Must say, my mistake. The enemy CV was damn good, should have killed him sooner. 

He sort of carried their whole team and had 7 kills. After I killed him we almost pulled it off. 

And then some of our taters, well, they saw a win coming, tried to win harder, and tatered into the enemy. 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

but we should encourage them, because they are the reasons why Holy Spreadshiet tells WG that CVs are balanced :)

Fixed that for You.

Although I noticed Your irony...

[Excavatus]

16 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Fixed that for You.

Although I noticed Your irony...

you are one step closer to the reality my son... 

SPREADSHEET IS THE WG.!!!

[Nibenay78]

6 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

I (almost) managed to lose all planes in FDR. In that game our team was totally spud. 

But i was in a div with my teammates, both in Thunderer. One managed 4 kills and 250K. 

The other got 180k and 3 kills. I managed 190K and 2 kills in FDR. We still lost... but it was fun.

In the endgame I had only squads left with 3-5 planes. All out of torpedo-planes...  

I smell deadeye thunderers at 20km! About as bad as sky-abnormal-cell-growth-disease!

[anonym_h2A7Pq9RjcIx]

Absolutely sick of carriers, twice been out in the Omaha today, a cruiser that has a high shell arc, weak armour and is designed for using island cover.  Both times tier 6 carriers made a mockery of it.  This is a joke.  To quote The Mighty Jingles, " F U C K Carriers!".  I really couldn't care less about the rules on this forum or any stupid block, as it's quite clear to me that the developers don't care about the state of the game and don't heed a word that's said either which way.  What's more, If any of you Monkey Boys want to be a smart A S S and defend Wargaming then feel free, I wont be here to read it ... see you.

[Panzer_Guido]

 

Not his greatest fan, but checks out. They wont balance CV. Ever. 

[geschlittert]

4 hours ago, Nibenay78 said:

I smell deadeye thunderers at 20km! About as bad as sky-abnormal-cell-growth-disease!

I can controll the engagement with thunderers. cant do that with CVs

[Nibenay78]

Of course, but still boring.

[BLUB__BLUB]

11 hours ago, Nibenay78 said:

I smell deadeye thunderers at 20km! About as bad as sky-abnormal-cell-growth-disease!

One was, one wasn't  - that is the key I guess. 

BTW did you try dead-eye Conqkek, man it is filthy. 

[Asatori]

TLDR: If CV popularity drops below a certain percentage a certain manager gets a bad job performance review and no christmas bonus.

 

That is literally why we have this dumbed down gameplay and a broken class in the game. This is also why the FDR was put in the game.. they had to prop up CV popularity, just so sub_o would still get his christmas bonus.

So we have brokenly OP class in the game with boring gameplay, just because the 1 career of a self absorbed manager is more important than player satisfaction. 

 

Nice. 

[Nov_A]

9 hours ago, Panzer_Guido said:

They wont balance CV. Ever. 

Guess that makes premium CVs a good investment?

[Asatori]

Another sad thought:

The only way to get CV's balanced is for everyone to buy a FDR and start playing CVs, that way CVs will be too popular and it will skew the spreadsheets showing the CV class to be extremely overpowered.

 

But F that I'm not going to give WG what they want because that is rewarding WG for their bad game design and balancing. 

[Panzer_Guido]

1 hour ago, Asatori said:

TLDR: If CV popularity drops below a certain percentage a certain manager gets a bad job performance review and no christmas bonus.

 

That is literally why we have this dumbed down gameplay and a broken class in the game. This is also why the FDR was put in the game.. they had to prop up CV popularity, just so sub_o would still get his christmas bonus.

So we have brokenly OP class in the game with boring gameplay, just because the 1 career of a self absorbed manager is more important than player satisfaction. 

 

Nice. 

at least from my personal experience with corporate organisations: Yes, that what it boils down to, though I guess it might be a team of devs/execs thats having their bonus. 

 

From their point of view nerfing AA and introducing FdR made a lot of sense. 

[Nibenay78]

3 hours ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

One was, one wasn't  - that is the key I guess. 

BTW did you try dead-eye Conqkek, man it is filthy. 

I prefer ships that can cause as much suffering to the CVs as possible. I even removed the +12% RoF module just to install the AA module on minotaur

 

last 7 days:

 

It's such a joy to see close to 1000 dmg pr tick, watch the planes burn, then report the CV.

If I'm in a good mood, I'll take a 14 days chatban and mention something what I think about CVs! 

 

 

The fact that most BBs now sit at 20km even makes it viable to push caps almost constantly, as most radar cruisers get screwed if they get close to the caps..