General CV related discussions.

[geschlittert]

I don't like CVs and what they do to the game. 

[Nov_A]

I like CVs.

 

Discuss.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 hour ago, Nov_A said:

I like CVs.

 

Discuss.

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You do.

 

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[Molly_Delaney]

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I like CVs too, both playing and playing against...

 

 

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[DFens_666]

AA should get stronger the more often a CV is spotting/attacking you. It cant be, that a CV can fly circles over 1 or 2 ships for more than 10 out of not even 12 minutes, harassing them permanently. I might aswell start cleaning my house, thats more fun. In yesterdays game, thats exactly what happened. And who profits from crap like that? BBabies camping the back. DDs and Cruisers are just pinatas to be farmed, or at best to slaughter each other while the CV can [edited]them from the sky.

So why not train AA gunners so to say. If your AA is active, your AA gunners get more accurate over time. That would prevent a CV from just attacking 1 or 2 ships over and over.

[Molly_Delaney]

10 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

So why not train AA gunners so to say. If your AA is active, your AA gunners get more accurate over time. That would prevent a CV from just attacking 1 or 2 ships over and over.

YES.

 

Makes the CV player think. Especially if the heightened skill stays active for a while.

[Nov_A]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

AA should get stronger the more often a CV is spotting/attacking you. It cant be, that a CV can fly circles over 1 or 2 ships for more than 10 out of not even 12 minutes, harassing them permanently. I might aswell start cleaning my house, thats more fun. In yesterdays game, thats exactly what happened. And who profits from crap like that? BBabies camping the back. DDs and Cruisers are just pinatas to be farmed, or at best to slaughter each other while the CV can [edited]them from the sky.

So why not train AA gunners so to say. If your AA is active, your AA gunners get more accurate over time. That would prevent a CV from just attacking 1 or 2 ships over and over.

Hello?

 

[DFens_666]

15 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

Hello?

 

Noob eating flak?

Fighter planes?

 

3+vermont. Depending on gameflow, Vermont AA couldnt reach the CV striking our DD tho.

 

27 planes? Well ok, 19 for Vermont, im not sure if/how often CV attacked him. I think at times, he attacked DD or me, then continued to drop our Vermont after that.

Thats still only 46 planes in like 11 minutes or so.

[geschlittert]

AA mounts should be invincible

[geschlittert]

25 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

Hello?

 

He wasnt even deplaned, am i right?

[Molly_Delaney]

14 minutes ago, geschlittert said:

AA mounts should be invincible

But if that was true, I wouldn't be able to first strip your AA with my rockets and then safely citadel your ship with DBs.

[CptBarney]

2 hours ago, Nov_A said:

Hello?

 

Not really doe, your div loses 38 planus, while derpy kaga yeets 104 planus to death.

Must of collected alot of puffy cloud points that game.

[DecisiveTime]

cv makes me cant sail in sea free.I must stay with my teammates,its not funny.

When i hide,cv's plane  pass by and spotted me.Then i die.

When I try to go to side and cross fire,cv spot me,and attack to me.Then i cant do anything and die.

CV is crap for no divsion players.

Return to my sea.Give me clear sky.

I cant do anything with cv.

If cv in game ,i have a huge chance to lose.

Too many cv in game,70% chance meet cv.

[Sunleader]

1 hour ago, CptBarney said:

Not really doe, your div loses 38 planus, while derpy kaga yeets 104 planus to death.

Must of collected alot of puffy cloud points that game.

 

 

Bigger Problem is.

It really doesnt matter to Kaga.

 

Spoiler

 

These Screenshots are Older because I just dont take these kind of Losses nowdays anymore.

But as Kagas Aircraft Reserves havnt changed. It doesnt really matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joke is. I often lose over a Hundred Planes in Kaga. And thing is. I just dont care lol

 

I mean. Dont get me Wrong there.

But my Kaga Starts the Battle with a Freaking 104 Bomber Aircraft on Deck....

Add at least 42 Bomber Aircraft which I am gonna Restore over a Full Match. And I am on 146 Bomber Aircraft.

Then the Losses also Include Fighters of which I have 45 to Spawn on my Leisure and another 16 for my Carrier Defense.

 

Now. The ones on the Carrier itself will usually not Die. And if you want consider a CV still Capable of Effective Strikes you need at least 2 Wings. In Kagas Case that means to still be Effective Part of the Game I need to have at least 20 Aircraft Remaining.

 

So basicly. Unless you Destroy 126 of my Bomber Aircraft. I am still gonna Bomb You :)

Given that my Fighters will often Die as I use them as Spotter. That means when I have Tight Games where I really need to Work for a Victory. I am going out of them with 160 Lost Aircraft and likely still had at least 2 Effective Squadrons to Bomb People :)

 

 

Thats just how Kaga Works.

A 100 Aircraft Lost by the End of the Match basicly means that Kaga was likely still Equipped with Full Squadrons on Deck....

[Nov_A]

14 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

Joke is. I often lose over a Hundred Planes in Kaga. And thing is. I just dont care lol

Do you also throw 40-50 planes at a specific player and ignore everything else?

 

It was about the ability of personal player harassement/focus and not plane factories.

[Sunleader]

11 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

Do you also throw 40-50 planes at a specific player and ignore everything else?

 

It was about the ability of personal player harassement/focus and not plane factories.

 

Depends on the Targets Importance.

I have had Matches where I mostly Focused 1 or 2 Importand Players which were Dangerous to my Team. And would keep Focusing them even if this Results in me Losing Tons of Planes to them.

Especially when the Enemy Team had Players from Good Clans which I recognized and thus knew that these Guys are Likely to be a Threat to me Winning that Match.

Hence I will Focus and Harass them so they cant take any Decisive Action to Win that Match and if Possible get Killed either by me or by my Team due to being Spotted Constantly.

 

This can often Result in that Player over Time shooting down alot of my Aircraft. I had enough cases where a Player I focused and which had good AA. Would sit there with AA Expert Achievement afterwards.

Cause I fed him my Planes to get him out of that Game.

 

I remember a Match for example. Where an Enemy Halland Killed my DD in the Center Cap. We had no Radar and that DD now was in the Center of the Map Completely Unchallenged.

And I was in a Kaga....

A Halland really is not something you want to Kill with a Kaga. But I still Killed him. Because that guy was a Problem for my Team. And if I wanted to Win this. He had to be Removed.

I lost 4 entire Squadrons to him to Kill him.

So about 40 Aircraft. (I used HE Bombers and Rockets so I am not sure how many Planes exactly he Cost me) And each time I also Dropped Fighters on him for that Second Extra he is Visible due to his AA Deleting the Puny Fighters in his Range.

 

So after that Match he had over 50 Plane Kills. But he was Dead and I won. :)

 

 

So Yes. If that Player needs to be Removed for me to Win that Match. Then this Player will be taken out even if I have to Throw all my Planes at it.

 

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, Nov_A said:

Do you also throw 40-50 planes at a specific player and ignore everything else?

 

Target priority is independent of AA strength unlike back in RTS.

Because in the end the likelihood of you ending up deplaned is practically nonexistent in the AA environment nowadays anyway regardless of how many planes you sacrifice to kill a single ship.

[CptBarney]

21 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Target priority is independent of AA strength unlike back in RTS.

Because in the end the likelihood of you ending up deplaned is practically nonexistent in the AA environment nowadays anyway regardless of how many planes you sacrifice to kill a single ship.

Can't wait for weegee to shunt in a 1950's enterprise with kaga reserves, fdr tankyness, haku stealth and indomatible speeds. She be a sexy model but still.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

7 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

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I like CVs too, both playing and playing against...

 

 

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ILLEGAL SYNTAX LINE

[CptBarney]

Soz lads for the off-topic. Am vereh excited barneh today.

Spoiler

 

@1MajorKoenig https://www.dreadnoughts.ultimateadmiral.com/post/alpha-11-arrived

Read to the very end, you might get very excited lol.

 

 

[Sunleader]

2 hours ago, Nov_A said:

Do you also throw 40-50 planes at a specific player and ignore everything else?

 

It was about the ability of personal player harassement/focus and not plane factories.

 

Example of a Kaga Game I just Played with a Buddy.

Nothing Special. First and only Game I played in Randoms Today. (mostly just played a few Coop Matches to do the Third Italian BB Directive)

 

 

Our DD supposed to go to the other Flank. Decided that he doesnt want to. And basicly instead of going to his Cap he Spawned at. He went all the way over to the other DD of the Team and Joined on that Cap just to then get himself Killed with no effect Whatsoever.

 

That Forced me to Spend 34 Aircraft. Just Uselessly Flying over that Z44s Smoke to and Attacking him in between. To keep up the Pressure and Preventing him from Wrecking my Teams other Flank faster than the Flank on my Side could Push forward themselves due to our Team having no way to actually Deal with that Z44 there.

So while in between trying to Clear the Way on our other Flank by taking down Enemies that started Kiting or Blocking my Team from Pushing. I always had to Return to that Z44 so he Stops just Forcing my Team away.

Take a Guess how much Time I spend above that Z44 for him to Kill a Friggin 34 of my Aircraft.

 

Not Enjoyable for me as CV. Because this way I am not really doing much Damage myself.

Not Enjoyable for him as DD. Because this way he basicly Played his Z44 as a Gun DD mostly Shooting from Smoke as he knew if he goes out while I am Shadowing him. He wont get very Far. a

But Necessary. Because otherwise he would have wrecked my Flank too fast and my Team would have been Stuck in a Corner and been Crossfired to Oblivion.

 

 

 

100 Planes Lost. Over 30 to that Z44 cause I had to keep him Pressured.

But do you think I cared ?

 

 

 

Still had enough Time in between to Literally Pester Everyone else on the Enemy Team and Share my Planes with them. I think Literally every Enemy Ship Killed at least one of my Aircraft :)

Still had enough Time to Bomb and Sink Enemies to Clear my Teams Way forward.

And I still Friggin hat Full Squadrons of Everything.

 

I had

22 Rocket Attackers Left. That Two and a Half Squadrons Worth.

22 Torpedo Bombers Left. (12 in the Air and 10 on Deck) which is Nearly Two Squadrons Worth.

28 Divebomber Left. Which is over Two Squadrons Worth.

 

Heck. I could Start Another Match with these Reserves and would likely still have Planes Left by the End of the Second Match xD

 

 

 

So Really. What do you want to Tell us with Killing 100 Planes from an Enemy Kaga ?

 

 

 

 

[G01ngToxicCommand0]

Hey hey ho ho aircraft carriers have got to go!
Hey hey ho ho aircraft carriers have got to go!
Hey hey ho ho aircraft carriers have got to go!
Etc. etc.

[1MajorKoenig]

22 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Soz lads for the off-topic. Am vereh excited barneh today.

  Reveal hidden contents

 

@1MajorKoenig https://www.dreadnoughts.ultimateadmiral.com/post/alpha-11-arrived

Read to the very end, you might get very excited lol.

 

 

Woooohoooo!!!! 
 

Looks like excellent news - and we will get a Panzerschiff Hull next 

 

That means I am going to build a Falkenhayn Battlecruiser on this 

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, Europizza ha scritto:

ILLEGAL SYNTAX LINE

what a kid

this is the command:

read the spoiler, its a piece from my book, called

''How To Write Something Stup1d People Wont UnderStand"

Spoiler

steps:

1. light up your computer

2. go to windows 10

3. go to windows 10 and figure out why did you light up your computer in the first place

4. type "cmd" in start bar

5. write:

//execute_deletecv.exe

Yes                   No

//Yes

//Do you wish to continue?

Yes                   No

//Yes

//...

Playerbase is happier thanks to you!

i hope you enjoyed this book XD

 

[ForlornSailor]

14 hours ago, Nov_A said:

Hello?

 

If anything, your screen proved, how broken CVs are. You met a 40% CV player.

He was able to attack you for the entire game.

You had no counter to get to him.

He got 600 XP for this, middle of the table on his team.

If this player would have been in a DD, he would have been dead within 120 seconds of the game. Earning him about 200, maybe even less XP. He would have never even been able to attack you yet be a threat.

 

Thank you for prvoving everyone - once again - how broken this class is. You really helped our case.

 

Now discussion over.