General CV related discussions.

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

I mean, ive been in a BB and CV players missed me with rockets

Happens, because in some CVs (German, but also FDR) the rockets go weird when you have the planes over an island. 

It is quite easy to forget. Basically, if you are close/near to an island some rockets cannot hit you d from that side.

Even if there would be plenty room to drop torpedoes. But some CVs, like Kaga, don't have a problem with this. 

[DFens_666]

4 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Happens, because in some CVs (German, but also FDR) the rockets go weird when you have the planes over an island. 

It is quite easy to forget. Basically, if you are close/near to an island some rockets cannot hit you d from that side.

Even if there would be plenty room to drop torpedoes. But some CVs, like Kaga, don't have a problem with this. 

 

Yep, that one i know of, but they came in from open water, and they managed to overshoot my BB

I fell in that islands trap myself

[CptBarney]

Ahh yis, 300 pages of stuff.

@Zuihou_Kai come and dance with barneh \'w'/

 

 

We dance comrades for planus, celebrating 300 pages of rages, memes, planus, smeggies and CV's.

[arquata2019_]

21 minuti fa, CptBarney ha scritto:

Ahh yis, 300 pages of stuff.

@Zuihou_Kai come and dance with barneh \'w'/

 

 

We dance comrades for planus, celebrating 300 pages of rages, memes, planus, smeggies and CV's.

let's celebrate

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

This discussion will never cease to amaze.

 

Indeed.

Tell me, if you cannot hit the broad side of a barn with the most accurate rifle in the world, does that mean the rifle is inaccurate or that you're just a lousy marksman?

Because according to this "logic" the rifle is inaccurate.

 

Evaluation based on the skill of incompetents will always fail and as such has no value.

[FellRaven]

I keep reading people arguing about whether CVs are OP and arguing that as they don't have a 100% win rate they can't be.

 

Caps Intended

 

"YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT"

 

Get in a DD play a lot of games and wait until you meet a CV who decides that his/her job is to stop you playing and enjoying the game. CVs kill the game for every other ship type while adding nothing for those other ship types. If you removed CVs general game play for every other ship type would improve.

 

Does it actually matter to CV players whether they are facing a bot or a player, no! So save the game are remove CVs from PvP.

[Pikkozoikum]

2 minutes ago, FellRaven said:

I keep ready people arguing about whether CVs are OP and arguing that as they don't have a 100% win rate they can't be.

 

Caps Intended

 

"YOUR MISSING THE POINT"

 

Get in a DD play a lot of games and wait until you meet a CV who decides that his/her job is to stop you playing and enjoying the game. CVs kill the game for every other ship type while adding nothing for those other ship types. If you removed CVs general game play for every other ship type would improve.

 

Does it actually mater the CV players whether they are facing a bot or a player, no! So save the game are remove CVs from PvP.

I have no issue with my DDs

[1MajorKoenig]

43 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

The difference is, the average player in any other class gets not hold back by an AI controlled mechanic - flak. And even if they pass that check (which they might not), they still have to execute a proper drop - which is also something that those people fail quite often. I mean, ive been in a BB and CV players missed me with rockets Not to mention something like torps, which seem to quite hard to handle for the average CV player.

Compared to shooting guns, which means: take lead, press left mouse-button or even torps. In those classes, people fail because they die early, cant aim, dont understand overmatch (more like autobounce) or getting outplayed. But atleast in some of those scenarios, its a human player which prevents them from dealing damage. With CVs, they trip over their own incompetence.

To be fair - the moment there is something one can influence - and that is both aiming as well as reading the tactical situation - one can mess it up 

[CptBarney]

Next stop 500 pages (again).

[Nibenay78]

21 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I have no issue with my DDs

And probably no issue if WG introduced nuclear weapons either. Its good for the enjoyment of the game.

[arquata2019_]

9 minuti fa, CptBarney ha scritto:

Next stop 500 pages (again).

if i start saying that cvs are balanced and the playerbase is wrong on them we can reach 500 pages in a minute

[1MajorKoenig]

2 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

if i start saying that cvs are balanced and the playerbase is wrong on them we can reach 500 pages in a minute

Shoot 

[CptBarney]

3 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

if i start saying that cvs are balanced and the playerbase is wrong on them we can reach 500 pages in a minute

add in some vids from on zoup and notser an this bloody thread will reach 1k pages in record time.

[arquata2019_]

2 minuti fa, CptBarney ha scritto:

add in some vids from on zoup and notser an this bloody thread will reach 1k pages in record time.

 

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

 

Let the triggering begin bois.

[arquata2019_]

cvs are simply fine, you are all 30% WR boys and can't win a game without making a division of 12 smolenskes.

you can group up with aa, you can activate dfaa, you can dodge, but srsly... you all are VERY bad at this game, i am the only super unicum that enjoys the cv rework.

7 minuti fa, 1MajorKoenig ha scritto:

Shoot 

 

[arquata2019_]

Proprio ora, CptBarney ha scritto:

Let the triggering begin bois.

where's the bunker

[Nov_A]

Just post some Ship Girls for another 100 pages.

[Sunleader]

55 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

I have no issue with my DDs

 

You always Claim that.

And yet when we Checked your Performance last Year. It was pretty obvious that your DD Performance always seemed to Drop Considerably when CVs got Involved in your Matches.

 

So Forgive me if I am not really Convinced by these Claims.

They are about as Trustworthy as AirSupremacy Claiming that he would be perfectly Fine Playing other Classes and never has Problems with Beating CVs in other Classes.....

 

I have yet to See a Player whose Results in a DD are not Reduced when Playing with the Enemy Team having an even halfwat Decent CV.

Yes. You can still Manage. Especially when the Enemy CV is a Potato just Ignoring you and going to Farm BBs instead. But being able to Manage isnt the same as having no Issues.

 

A Trained Green Beret will likely Win any Battle against some Untrained Civillian in a Forest. Even if that Civilian has an Assault Rifle with several Spare Clips and the Green Beret has not even a Knife.

But that doesnt mean his Fists Equal an Assault Rifle nor does it mean that he has no Issues Fighting an Civillian which has such an Assault Rifle with only his Bare Hands.

It simply means that in this case he can overcome the Issues by Capitalizing on the vast Difference in Training and Skill.

[Pikkozoikum]

41 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

And yet when we Checked your Performance last Year. It was pretty obvious that your DD Performance always seemed to Drop Considerably when CVs got Involved in your Matches.

That's new, could you give the source?

 

42 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

So Forgive me if I am not really Convinced by these Claims.

They are about as Trustworthy as AirSupremacy Claiming that he would be perfectly Fine Playing other Classes and never has Problems with Beating CVs in other Classes.....

Yes, right... I play DDs and have no fun, that's why I play DDs. Makes sense.

 

43 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

I have yet to See a Player whose Results in a DD are not Reduced when Playing with the Enemy Team having an even halfwat Decent CV.

Yes. You can still Manage. Especially when the Enemy CV is a Potato just Ignoring you and going to Farm BBs instead. But being able to Manage isnt the same as having no Issues.

Doesn't matter. I said, I have no issue. I just accept, that a CV can spot and do damage, but that' doesn't mean, that I can't win a match by playing smart against a CV instead of playing like a potato

 

[DeviousDave02]

3 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

where's the bunker

[CptBarney]

10 hours ago, Nov_A said:

Just post some Ship Girls for another 100 pages.

as you wish my lord.

[BLUB__BLUB]

14 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

Yep, that one i know of, but they came in from open water, and they managed to overshoot my BB

I fell in that islands trap myself

Then it could be something else, which happens to me sometimes - well, lately. Must be happening to others as well.

In ships it happens too, maybe you also have that experience. It is lag/desynch related:

You press the key and nothing happens. Or it happens a moment later. I had it in every ship, and happens randomly.

But if it happens when dropping/lauching/firing, yes you miss. Or your torps are too late and they do not arm.

 

Normally my connection is 100% solid, but last week... sometimes I get this, as well:

@MrConway 

Spoiler

 

[DFens_666]

Just now, BLUB__BLUB said:

Normally my connection is 100% solid, but last week... sometimes I get this, as well:

 

Last week i had issues all the time aswell...

Guns shooting too late, like lagging.

weird desync, in where i see a lot more shells hit than the game credited me for, but funnily this changed even within one game. Sometimes shells count - sometimes not.

[BLUB__BLUB]

56 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Last week i had issues all the time aswell...

Guns shooting too late, like lagging.

weird desync, in where i see a lot more shells hit than the game credited me for, but funnily this changed even within one game. Sometimes shells count - sometimes not.

LOL I even had the last kill, in CV, dropped a Thunderer... it was the kill that ended the game. 

But it didn't get counted... we LOLled hard in the division. I went, "game ends in 3-2-1.... BOOM"--> ... no score. 

 

Just do not assume that a CV will miss his rockets... they are easy mode. Usually. But this is Weegee remember.

There is such a thing as RNGesus as well and he is very picky about his sheep. Deliver them pretty & virgin or no score. 

 

Example on FDR where you have 52 rockets per shot (insane) but you need 4 Currywursts parked together to hit all.

And yes you can get 15+K from a cruiser if you can manage to hit them 100% sideways (but they move and turn...). 

It means you can shoot them all at a DD, and still not hit an FF-ing thing. LMAO. Looks impressive though.

 

Same about the bombs. It drops 6, in two rows - and that's a potential 20K on a cruiser. IF you hit... 

I found I can even miss a parked Stalingrad... perfectly zoomed-in, lengthwise, perfect drop... 2 hits... LOLLLLL. 

 

Then torps... I have the "more speed" and the "short fuse" on the captain (he has 20 points... no problem there, either).

But they seem avoidable as hell, dunno how those guys do it on Youtube. Usually 7/8 torpedo hits, but I get 3, maybe 4.

Perhaps they have a "lame rudder & lazy engine mod" installed on the other ships.