General CV related discussions.

[Lordcrafty]

1 hour ago, DeviousDave02 said:

Np :D

 

I was being overly dramatic at that part but the internet doesn't really convay it too well (my bad)

 

As for the edit it was actually to remove the bolden text from below after I realised re reading I had started a sentance and went no where with it

 

"I mean it could possibly be confirmation bias, as I do realize that increasing the speed = Increasing the arming distance (why non of my other CV's run/ran torp accel) although I have "

 

So I just removed it as I couldn't remember where I was going with it (large amounts of Rum does that sometimes  (closest emoji I could find to a pirate) 

well, I thought you were just exaggerating it so I misinterpreted that.

[BLUB__BLUB]

4 hours ago, Lordcrafty said:

Also, torping DDs is a waste of time... 

...unless they are stoopid. I always torp DDs. That is, if that is what I brought. 

- If they smoke up (and I can predict where they'll stop)...;

- if they are smoked up and they keep shooting;

- if they are smoked up, but I can see where they are because somebody else just hit them;

- and yes I'll loiter around when I see a teammate coming with a radar cruiser.... 

 

Generally though I prefer to use HE bombs, even over rockets. Rockets... are iffy. 

HE rockets, good for (re)setting fires. AP-rockets, well we all know what they do best.

But every evening = a few CV games, and at least once a DD gets hit by a torp. 

On FDR you have 8, this week three DDs entered a cap - hey, share AA, right? 

I dropped torps, managed to kill one, halved the other two... one of them I killed later omn with another torp. 

 

Torps working as intended, mostly. I usually play some RN CV, or Kaga, or FDR though. Sometimes Manfred or Shokek.

But EL torps... well... I have EL... but... you just throw them behind a ship to make sure he'll go in a preferred direction, sort of.

When you are out of anything else that is useful.  

[st_dasa]

On 1/24/2021 at 7:30 AM, Nov_A said:

all planes are pretty cozy to handle

 

There, I fixed your post.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

Oh thanks for the FDR. I got killed twice now in my Hayate because the FDR simply hoovered over my ship for minutes without being able to hit me allowing his teammates to shoot at me endlessly, and me only killing fighters but not the stupidly HP buffed bombers. Great stuff. Wonkers.

[JohnMac79]

2 hours ago, Europizza said:

Oh thanks for the FDR. I got killed twice now in my Hayate because the FDR simply hoovered over my ship for minutes without being able to hit me allowing his teammates to shoot at me endlessly, and me only killing fighters but not the stupidly HP buffed bombers. Great stuff. Wonkers.

Just dodge?

[BLUB__BLUB]

14 hours ago, Europizza said:

Oh thanks for the FDR. I got killed twice now in my Hayate because the FDR simply hoovered over my ship for minutes without being able to hit me allowing his teammates to shoot at me endlessly, and me only killing fighters but not the stupidly HP buffed bombers. Great stuff. Wonkers.

Welcome to the new meta: do c8ck-all, spam from rear and farm damage. ZZzzzzZZzzzz....

Man it is booooring!!

 

12 hours ago, JohnMac79 said:

Just dodge?

He didn't have to, FDR has 25 secs "tea break" between drops. 

On top of that, usually I manage to miss half the ammo even on BBs. 

 

[Nit0]

On 24/01/2021 at 11:35 PM, BLUB__BLUB said:

...unless they are stoopid. I always torp DDs. That is, if that is what I brought. 

- If they smoke up (and I can predict where they'll stop)...;

- if they are smoked up and they keep shooting;

- if they are smoked up, but I can see where they are because somebody else just hit them;

- and yes I'll loiter around when I see a teammate coming with a radar cruiser.... 

 

 

👆👆This!

Also:

- torp DD to delay them (force them to turn away), for example if they are getting uncomfortably close to your concealment.

- torp DD to force them to move, for example if they are hiding behind a island. Torps are good to flush them out if their hiding place. 

 

[XDukenukemX]

Seems like from last update when i aim with rocketplanes after sharp turn the reticle stays super wide.... even after stabilizing, anyone having this as well?

or is it a "new feature" ?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

always been that way

[XDukenukemX]

6 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

always been that way

no, it turned back to the smallest as soon as it stabilized, this is new from the patch, I never had aiming reticle so big i could fit 2x cossack in it. (lengthwise).

[ghostbuster_]

Poor you

[Yosha_AtaIante]

16 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

Poor you

I have no idea what he is talking about even. 

[UnterSeeBot]

 

On 1/26/2021 at 1:51 AM, JohnMac79 said:

Just dodge?

soon we'll be able to shout, ALARM! (swear loudly) then  FLOOD THE TANKS! (drink heaviliy), TRIM PARTY! ((not sure what the WOWS player equivalent would be)  all of which we'll be able to summarize in the new expression "JUst duCk! ^tm" (or "JuSt diVe)

Can't wait.

[Pikkozoikum]

7 minutes ago, LoveZeppelin said:

"JUst duCk! ^tm"

[Itwastuesday]

86% of Iowa AA alive, Hakuryu comes with torpedo planes and strikes me thrice. 

 

Maybe it's my fault because I don't spec full AA build or something?

[Pikkozoikum]

6 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

86% of Iowa AA alive, Hakuryu comes with torpedo planes and strikes me thrice. 

 

Maybe it's my fault because I don't spec full AA build or something?

It's more likely, that this is a T10 CV vs T9 BB. I guess you are also alone?
Also IJN Torpedo Bomber have a heal, thus they can survive quite long, but then, 3 strikes are I think 50% of the full squad? So with worse AA, you might get 5 strikes

[arttuperkunas]

On 1/26/2021 at 3:14 PM, Nit0 said:

👆👆This!

Also:

- torp DD to delay them (force them to turn away), for example if they are getting uncomfortably close to your concealment.

- torp DD to force them to move, for example if they are hiding behind a island. Torps are good to flush them out if their hiding place. 

 

From the POV of a BB player, torps (including plane torps) are also handy because they may force the DD to maneuver predictably. Makes it possible, and sometimes even easy to hit DDs at 12+km, which is normally quite challenging.

[Nit0]

4 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

It's more likely, that this is a T10 CV vs T9 BB. I guess you are also alone?
Also IJN Torpedo Bomber have a heal, thus they can survive quite long, but then, 3 strikes are I think 50% of the full squad? So with worse AA, you might get 5 strikes

Haku torp planes also have low concealment. So they are in your sector aa only for 5-6 km. And when they fly over your ship, they strike again from the other side where you now have weak aa sector. I don't find it surprising that a haku can strike you 3 times in a Iowa, especially when you have zero aa skills. You can consider the module that boost your aa sector reload if you want to improve your aa, and maybe the captain skill that increases aa sector damage+extra flak.

[CptBarney]

@El2aZeR have you tested the AA skills yet?

@Sunleader @Zuihou_Kai ?? halp.

[Sunleader]

3 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

@El2aZeR have you tested the AA skills yet?

@Sunleader @Zuihou_Kai ?? halp.

 

I did a Small Test Run using my Neptune with a Full AA Build.

But nothing Conclusive or Extensive. Just wanted to Confirm Something.

 

And Indeed. A Neptune with Full AA Build is very well Capable of Deplaning a T10 CV without being Killed in a 1 vs 1.

 

Cruisers do actually have quite some Options for AA Skills now. Which Allows for some of the more AA Focused Cruisers to be a Serious Threat to CVs.

Albeit of course. Nothing remotely Close to being no Fly Zones or being Capable of Denying Strikes.

 

 

 

But thats about all I Tested.

I have not bothered beyond that Yet. As I have not really Played Lately.

 

Still Waiting for Submarines.

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Nit0 said:

that increases aa sector damage+extra flak.

...if he has low concealment he might not even encounter FLAK. Also, it might be just one puff, which he can avoid. 

Would help against FDR though (slow, and large squads). FDR will have to avoid multiple puffs and guaranteed you'll shoot down a bunch. 

Then again.. it has a sh... load of planes and he'll sure get some drops in. 

[CptBarney]

3 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

I did a Small Test Run using my Neptune with a Full AA Build.

But nothing Conclusive or Extensive. Just wanted to Confirm Something.

 

And Indeed. A Neptune with Full AA Build is very well Capable of Deplaning a T10 CV without being Killed in a 1 vs 1.

 

Cruisers do actually have quite some Options for AA Skills now. Which Allows for some of the more AA Focused Cruisers to be a Serious Threat to CVs.

Albeit of course. Nothing remotely Close to being no Fly Zones or being Capable of Denying Strikes.

 

 

 

But thats about all I Tested.

I have not bothered beyond that Yet. As I have not really Played Lately.

 

Still Waiting for Submarines.

 

Sounds promising, makes me wonder if its worth for the avg player to take a full AA build or just settle with a hybrid tank-aa build.

Interesting too see that on desmoines or worcester for example.

[Itwastuesday]

6 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

It's more likely, that this is a T10 CV vs T9 BB. I guess you are also alone?
Also IJN Torpedo Bomber have a heal, thus they can survive quite long, but then, 3 strikes are I think 50% of the full squad? So with worse AA, you might get 5 strikes

Late in the game when most of the team is dead and I'm killing off the pushing battleships, sort of kited close to a manfred but the torp planes flew into it only briefly. Perhaps my expectations are too high when it comes to, what's the wiki call it, 

• Incredible anti-aircraft suite makes her highly resistant to aerial assault.

[CptBarney]

35 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said:

Late in the game when most of the team is dead and I'm killing off the pushing battleships, sort of kited close to a manfred but the torp planes flew into it only briefly. Perhaps my expectations are too high when it comes to, what's the wiki call it, 

• Incredible anti-aircraft suite makes her highly resistant to aerial assault.

Well if the AA is gud then maybe. Although that still wont address mount sweeping (wiping out loads of AA mounts quickly) or the fact that CV's will always be balans for at least 1 strike regardless.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

59 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Sounds promising, makes me wonder if its worth for the avg player to take a full AA build or just settle with a hybrid tank-aa build.

Interesting too see that on desmoines or worcester for example.

As someone who plays CVs at the T6 Potato Level right now it doesn't look as if it's really doing any more problems before. I only get in T8 battles though - while that often - so I can't say anything about the only tier that WG at least a bit cares to balance a little bit (= T10) but with my T6 CV I never got deplaned in battle, if when many T8 ships were present.

Okay, I shorten squads at the start and kinda avoid too troublesome targets, but after 10 minutes of HE firing at them most ships have lost enough AA to become targets again.