[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6576 Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: Same as this one really, might as well have both up or just kept the old one up for all this one has done. still 240 to go though. We are repeating ourselves already again thanks to Farheim. It's like every new guy who joins this topic gets Wololo (aoe2 reference) until they are converted into CVs are flawed narrative. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6577 Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: still 240 to go though. We are repeating ourselves already again thanks to Farheim. It's like every new guy who joins this topic gets Wololo (aoe2 reference) until they are converted into CVs are flawed narrative. Or the other funny AOE2 character. 'Now, Now. Lets see' Sums it up quite nicely lol. My god i need to get AOE2 Again. AOE3 is in definitive edition atm as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #6578 Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: still 240 to go though. We are repeating ourselves already again thanks to Farheim. It's like every new guy who joins this topic gets Wololo (aoe2 reference) until they are converted into CVs are flawed narrative. Well now you know what to do: Make a new CV thread, and write everything ever written into the opening post. As short as possible ofc... Spoiler probably not gonna work tho 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6579 Posted January 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Well now you know what to do: Make a new CV thread, and write everything ever written into the opening post. As short as possible ofc... Hide contents probably not gonna work tho No thanks LOL No one is going to read it in the first place. Also what will I do at work when I get bored and no one is circlejerking about CV's anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6580 Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Zuihou_Kai said: No thanks LOL No one is going to read it in the first place. Also what will I do at work when I get bored and no one is circlejerking about CV's anymore? become a vtuber with hosho body pillow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6581 Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, CptBarney said: become a vtuber with hosho body pillow. Thought about doing a few videos like that as crap posts, improved my voice quite a bit too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6582 Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Thought about doing a few videos like that as crap posts, improved my voice quite a bit too. well the asaka one was disturbing (gud acting skills) and the stop barneh vid was also quite gud too. would be hilarious too see those again, might even wheeze and choke on me chicken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #6583 Posted January 12, 2021 14 hours ago, Konffi said: Hello, didn't want to start a new tread so I will post it in here. Did the Indomitable receive any buff that would make her at least a little bit worth buying or is she still the hot garbage she was when she released. Thanks No, not at all.. she still is by far the worst CV in the game. Even worse than the hybrid cruisers. Just stay away from that monstrosity, just sell it even If they gift it to you. Nobody should play that thing If they want their team to win. 16 hours ago, CptBarney said: Makes me wonder why the first topic was even closed in the first place. 13 hours ago, Bear__Necessities said: because it hit just over 500 pages of utter BS going round in a circle of flying s**t Because It was thought after a year from the rework, things will calm down, and we would not need a dedicated thread for CV topics and discussion. Oh god.. how wrong we were!! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6584 Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Excavatus said: Nobody should play that thing If they want their team to win. Damn, now it sounds like a challenge... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IFS] UnderDuress Players 191 posts 10,109 battles Report post #6585 Posted January 12, 2021 Quick question to those who played RTS CVs, would you say an RTS CV had more or less counter play options against their planes against getting strafed, compared to a current DD against rework CVs killing them? Or is it too different to be comparable? I never played RTS CVs much so have no real experience with what fighter strafing was like, but occasionally see it mentioned as a bad/unfair point of RTS. While I sort of get the mechanics because I was playing at the time but never really experienced it, so was wondering how bad it really was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #6586 Posted January 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Excavatus said: Because It was thought after a year from the rework, things will calm down, and we would not need a dedicated thread for CV topics and discussion. Oh god.. how wrong we were!! That says quite a lot about just how bad the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeework is. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #6587 Posted January 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Capra76 said: That says quite a lot about just how bad the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeework is. No it‘s because a pretty smallish group here keeps repeating their opinions and feelings over and over again. You can easily check this: put these on your igno and the thread magically reduced to a fraction of its size Plus: probably the complete absence of any remarkable other WOWS news or any hype - man I miss a good WOWS Hype-train... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaKo_9 Players 27 posts Report post #6588 Posted January 12, 2021 WG doesn´t give up trying to make me quitting. Now I had 4 CVs in random games.... ....and in the really important tournaments they don´t use them because they make the game play boring, but we are forced to get along with double double crap.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #6589 Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, UnderDuress said: Quick question to those who played RTS CVs, would you say an RTS CV had more or less counter play options against their planes against getting strafed, compared to a current DD against rework CVs killing them? Or is it too different to be comparable? Way more. If you knew how strafes worked you could quite easily dodge them and avoid all damage which is not possible in DD vs CV interaction. This is why strafing in a RTS CV battle where both players were skilled practically wasn't used. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pururut Players 356 posts 815 battles Report post #6590 Posted January 12, 2021 Since this forum is continously repeating itself with Wargaming not giving a single care I might as well as propose something different for the sake of it. I say this; cut off AA mechanics and CV from the game. After that remove tier 7-10 across all nations and classes and reestablish the game within the destroyer-cruiser-battleship triangle. No gimmicks like radar, accelerated reload or whatever. No fast battleships or weird hybrids or submarines. There is no reason for WoWS to have ten tiers and judging from the events and rewards only tier 6-10 are relevant anyways. The key in my opinion is to keep it simple. The majority probably play to unwind as is the case with most of the F2P MMOs. Wargaming should adhere to its audience and make the whole thing easier to understand by making the game universally the same thing across all tiers. Additionally I think having 6 tiers would be healthier for the game; beginning in 1890s and finishing in 1920s. This way there wont be an immense technological cap as is currently the case with tier 6-8. Concentration of tiers will also lead to universalization of +1/-1 matchmaking. This is not the first time Wargaming has messed one of its titles up by not planning enough about how the components to be added will interact with those already present so frankly I am not surprised nor worried. With that said and done I conclude this post BUT by all means, please help yourself with criticizing or better yet introducing even more impractical proposals regarding CVs and the overall state of this game. If this thread is going to add up to 500 pages it might as well as have something in it besides constant back and forth about CVs and how we all hate it. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #6591 Posted January 12, 2021 I am just gonna wait for Submarines. Then CVs can do whatever without me caring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6592 Posted January 12, 2021 6 hours ago, UnderDuress said: Quick question to those who played RTS CVs, would you say an RTS CV had more or less counter play options against their planes against getting strafed, compared to a current DD against rework CVs killing them? Or is it too different to be comparable? I never played RTS CVs much so have no real experience with what fighter strafing was like, but occasionally see it mentioned as a bad/unfair point of RTS. While I sort of get the mechanics because I was playing at the time but never really experienced it, so was wondering how bad it really was. Even though I s*cked at using (and dodging) the strafe mechanism, I never thought of it as bad or unfair. My manual skills weren't just good enough to handle these precise timings needed to get it right. Adding to that, the mechanic itself was sometimes bordering the buggy area, with planes reacting not expected. Might me only my personal experience though. So as I wasn't really good at strafing, I stopped playing the CVs that needed that mechanism to work properly, which I had quite successful before (see below). Even without strafing the mechanics to support allied ships against enemy plane attacks were sufficient (in my opinion...) So for me RTS CVs where way less OP and easier to endure than the reeeworked ones, especially the reeeworked in the end did not change anything to the positive... the skill gap is as big (or bigger) as before, except for it is now even a lot more punishing for the poor little helpless victims. 3 hours ago, El2aZeR said: Way more. If you knew how strafes worked you could quite easily dodge them and avoid all damage which is not possible in DD vs CV interaction. This is why strafing in a RTS CV battle where both players were skilled practically wasn't used. I knew how strafes worked. Still couldn't get them working (see above). Guess being 60 years old and never enjoying all these Jump&Run or 1st person shooters which ask for manual dexterity put me in a bat spot when WG introduced strafing. Didn't want to burden be a team for my teams by not being able to use my planes efficiently, so I only played T4 CV from that point on. Even though they got crippled when the manual drops got removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6593 Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Sunleader said: I am just gonna wait for Submarines. Then CVs can do whatever without me caring. until every planu gets asw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[YEET] COPlUM Players 3,009 posts 12,083 battles Report post #6594 Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Sunleader said: I am just gonna wait for Submarines. Then CVs can do whatever without me caring. Imagine thinking planes won't get sonar and depth charges CV's are supposed to hard-counter everything, submarines won't be an exception. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #6595 Posted January 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, CptBarney said: until every planu gets asw. 10 minutes ago, NikolayKuznetsov said: Imagine thinking planes won't get sonar and depth charges CV's are supposed to hard-counter everything, submarines won't be an exception. Goddamnit Guys. Cant you let a Man have Hope for F***s Sake ????? Take a Hint sometimes will ya ????? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6596 Posted January 13, 2021 4 hours ago, CptBarney said: until every planu gets asw. I'd gladly change the rockets for ASW planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6597 Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: I'd gladly change the rockets for ASW planes. Don't take my shoukaku rockets away please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6598 Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Don't take my shoukaku rockets away please Should be an option, like mounting DEF AA or hydro, or choosing fighters or spotters, on other ships. I'd do it. Maybe you would too, if you get 3 subs and one DD every game. I'd definitely change the FDR rockets. Only thing those are good for is starting large scale forest fires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6599 Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Should be an option, like mounting DEF AA or hydro, or choosing fighters or spotters, on other ships. I'd do it. Maybe you would too, if you get 3 subs and one DD every game. I'd definitely change the FDR rockets. Only thing those are good for is starting large scale forest fires. FDR rockets are perfect for sniping CVs. They do at least 16k dmg on a broadside CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6600 Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: FDR rockets are perfect for sniping CVs. They do at least 16k dmg on a broadside CV. Well yeah, but torps do 20... bombs too... and that is excluding any flooding/fires. A CV is basically a fat, usually parked- up and lonely, flat-topped oversized cruiser or BB. But weren't we supposed to use rockets as a means of "defending" against DDs... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
