CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #6501 Posted January 9, 2021 so is midway best chonk airfu den? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6502 Posted January 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, CptBarney said: so is midway best chonk airfu den? Depends what you use it for I think. And what the reds/team have. Sometimes I get 4 DDs, 4 cruisers, and 3BBs. Then I'll not want Manfred. But when I get 1 DD, 2 cruisers and a mega-load of BBs, I'd like to have FDR... I think Midway is most versatile though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6503 Posted January 9, 2021 Midway is the most versatile CV and most comfortable to carry games in. Hakuryu is the best T10 CV if you can play it near perfectly and reliably hit DDs with its torps. All other CVs are Situational. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6504 Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Midway is the most versatile CV and most comfortable to carry games in. Hakuryu is the best T10 CV if you can play it near perfectly and reliably hit DDs with its torps. All other CVs are Situational. I think I agree with that. Wonder what the best CV is in CB, if WeeGee (or when...) they put CV again. Situational yes, but this is kinda a "prescribed situation". You will not see 4 DDs, for example. I think it is not gonna be FD Roosevelt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6505 Posted January 9, 2021 Roosevelt will be majority pick while the best clans will either play Manfred or Haku. Haku with captain skill rework will actually be nerfes a little. So I believe MvR will be seen most by top clans. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #6506 Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, CptBarney said: so is midway best chonk airfu den? As of now - yes, at least for randoms and ranked I'd say. Hakuryu IMO got nerfed a bit too harshly, tho maybe some super unicrons can still play it and even enjoy it, but... eh why bother when there's a Midway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6507 Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Farheim said: eh why bother to get better with it. Haku has incredibly high skill ceiling. If only Midway is played then one will never be able to use and understand Haku fully. Regular practice is very important on Haku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #6508 Posted January 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Haku has incredibly high skill ceiling Is that so? Because I think Midway has a way more higher skill cap, because if you're good enough you can nuke dds with Tiny tims/bombs, you can torp them etc. While Haku player needs only to master torps really, everything else is way easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6509 Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Farheim said: Is that so? Because I think Midway has a way more higher skill cap, because if you're good enough you can nuke dds with Tiny tims/bombs, you can torp them etc. While Haku player needs only to master torps really, everything else is way easier. I have 900 battles in Midway and am pretty sure I can do all and every little thing that can be done. Haku however (Shoukaku) the more I play those two the more I notice that I still improve and learn new things, striking techniques, target prioritization and torpedo mastery. There seems to be no end yet for me in improvement in both of those. Haku also has much stronger tools to influence the match instantly while midway needs a bit more time to truly have impact. Midway being universal and not caring for who you target automatically reduces the skill ceiling massively while in Haku you really need to know what to strike and when/how. Haku has far more tools and approaches while Midway are very linear (but effective) Basically Midway to me feels like easy mode compared to Haku Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6510 Posted January 9, 2021 forgot what is skill floor/ceiling 1 ora fa, Zuihou_Kai ha scritto: Roosevelt will be majority pick while the best clans will either play Manfred or Haku. Haku with captain skill rework will actually be nerfes a little. So I believe MvR will be seen most by top clans. used midway all clan brawls this december for a single day with a typhoon league clan and well, i'd say enemies got wiped out pretty quickly last match. (4 kills, no steals and won a lost game) Hakuryu vs Midway, who's the better in general? (random question that i just asked myself) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6511 Posted January 9, 2021 skill ceiling means the way to be really good with a certain ship is either long or easy to reach. So for example midway skill ceiling being low means it's easier to be good in Midway. While on Haku you need more practice and time because the skill ceiling is higher. FDR for example has the lowest skill ceiling, mostly anyone can be good in that ship with very little or basic knowledge. Haku vs Midway? Midway is the safest pick for competetive. But I believe Haku is better overall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #6512 Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Midway being universal and not caring for who you target automatically reduces the skill ceiling I think it's actually increases it, because again Haku is limited and Midway is not, you gotta use your brain to calculate which target you should go for first. Like should you harass that static petro, or hunt down the dd, or maybe even stop the bb push?.. Haku is not entirely reactive of course but still it's not as versatile and naturally limeted, he always does something more effectively, like he can't nuke DD really, but he can definitely oblitirate static cruiser, you don't have as much options, you don't have to keep in mind which ship used his DCP and which didn't. 6 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: Hakuryu vs Midway, who's the better in general? (random question that i just asked myself) In randoms Midway was always better than Haku, even before the ap bomb's nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6513 Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Farheim said: n randoms Midway was always better I agree with you on this. But I don't agree with the rest. That's fine however right? You have your reasons why you think Midway has a higher skill ceiling. I just believe the fact that Midway has easier target selection alone makes it way easier to master. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Farheim Players 182 posts 6,723 battles Report post #6514 Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said: But I don't agree with the rest. That's fine however right? You have your reasons why you think Midway has a higher skill ceiling. Ngl I just have some personal bias against Haku after I had to play around 150 games on it in one CB season And I didn't play it in a damn while. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6515 Posted January 9, 2021 how can i play hakuryu at its best? i am curious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #6516 Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: how can i play hakuryu at its best? i am curious Telling you without knowing how you play, what you are good in and what mistakes you make, basically telling you without seeing you play is basically impossible and I'm sorry to say but I currently don't have time to teach another person or help or write a guide. Haku is complicated to play effectively. The best you can do is try learning it yourself. I also learn by myself without help. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6517 Posted January 9, 2021 22 minuti fa, Zuihou_Kai ha scritto: Telling you without knowing how you play, what you are good in and what mistakes you make, basically telling you without seeing you play is basically impossible and I'm sorry to say but I currently don't have time to teach another person or help or write a guide. Haku is complicated to play effectively. The best you can do is try learning it yourself. I also learn by myself without help. well, then if you want, may you tell me how do i torp a destroyer like shimakaze? because they're so hard to hit, but not impossible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6518 Posted January 9, 2021 just got to 60% WR on midway i am da true unicum now, amn't (am-i-not) i?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6519 Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: just got to 60% WR on midway i am da true unicum now, amn't (am-i-not) i?! Unicorn... To be unicum you'd have to be funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6520 Posted January 9, 2021 Proprio ora, Deckeru_Maiku ha scritto: Unicorn... To be unicum you'd have to be funny... no u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #6521 Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, arquata2019 said: no u I've been a prime clown in this forum since Beta... can't get more funny than that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6522 Posted January 9, 2021 3 minuti fa, Deckeru_Maiku ha scritto: I've been a prime clown in this forum since Beta... can't get more funny than that aaaaaanyway I Got 60% WR On Midway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #6523 Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, arquata2019 said: aaaaaanyway I Got 60% WR On Midway Depends on if I am alone, 2-div or 3 div. But Midway is not THAT good for me. Single: Spoiler Two div: Spoiler 3-div: Spoiler I think I'll take Manfred.... maybe Haku.... and I need some practise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #6524 Posted January 10, 2021 1 minuto fa, BLUB__BLUB ha scritto: Depends on if I am alone, 2-div or 3 div. But Midway is not THAT good for me. Single: Nascondi contenuti Two div: Nascondi contenuti 3-div: Nascondi contenuti I think I'll take Manfred.... maybe Haku.... and I need some practise. all solo matches with midway (maybe SOME in division, ill check in a sec) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #6525 Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, arquata2019 said: well, then if you want, may you tell me how do i torp a destroyer like shimakaze? because they're so hard to hit, but not impossible You dont. Either you use Rockets. Which are your Primary Weapon against DDs. Or you just keep spotting him so your Team kills him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
