General CV related discussions.

[BLUB__BLUB]

Just now, HMCite said:

Same Potato Playing FDR and Midway will have better Chance of Harrasing enemy Team and loose less planes for it. Because its broken, Planes dont die, AA doesnt do crap to its planes, DDs can remain spotted for Ages and cant kill its planes even if a Noob CV chooses to.

This is not really true.

Actually when you lose planes in FDR (and you will, it is kinda impossible to avoid all FLAK),

then they will not re-grow and you end up out of planes much easier than with Midway. 

[HMCite]

1 minute ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

This is not really true.

Actually when you lose planes in FDR (and you will, it is kinda impossible to avoid all FLAK),

Well In a smokeless DD when spotted By CV whose planes have A health pool the size of a Battle ship , and there is endless spotting for ALL enemy team to Focus and shoot at the DD. 
So , We can Agree to disagree.

I still Think FDR is rubbish addition to the game, and It most certainly takes away the fun from my game when i see one in the enemy team.

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

Exactly , Both teams have CV , but i dont see runing away from Midway and Hakuryu the way i see when there is an FDR...

That is because they are chickenshits then. 

 

With Midway I can usually drill those six torpedoes into a BB. 

With FDR, it is: 

- slow AF;

- WILL eat Flak and lose planes;

- and you need to hit EIGHT torpedoes... as they are less powerful....to do same damage.

 

In Clan Battles when we meet FDR it is simple. He will spot us a few times at the start, maybe do damage.

But after that all his planes are mowed down, so he will not be much of a bother anymore. Usually. 

When you have Midway, MvR or Haku, he will just keep on coming every time. 

[HMCite]

6 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

That is because they are chickenshits then. 

 

With Midway I can usually drill those six torpedoes into a BB. 

With FDR, it is: 

- slow AF;

- WILL eat Flak and lose planes;

- and you need to hit EIGHT torpedoes... as they are less powerful....to do same damage.

 

In Clan Battles when we meet FDR it is simple. He will spot us a few times at the start, maybe do damage.

But after that all his planes are mowed down, so he will not be much of a bother anymore. Usually. 

When you have Midway, MvR or Haku, he will just keep on coming every time. 

In my game play experience I am not bothered by Midway as often as by FDR. Even in Clan Battles we use FDR

So, my opinion is FDR is not a good addition to the game

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

Well In a smokeless DD when spotted By CV whose planes have A health pool the size of a Battle ship , and there is endless spotting for ALL enemy team to Focus and shoot at the DD. 
So , We can Agree to disagree.

Well the AA on those "smokeless DDs" is a lot more effective to FDR than it is to other CVs.

Press P to shut it down, he will only spot you at 2.5km - too late to attack. The use whatever you have. 
FDR will lose  A LOT of planes... he'll not keep spotting you. If he does, yes indeed he can spot you "forever".

But meanwhile he has no points incoming. He'd rather go torp a fat BB. Choice between 20k or lose the squad, to get that DD for the team.

 

And dammit, I once made the mistake "hey there is smoke must be the Shima". 

Turned out to be a Wooster... lost the whole  lot and didn't get them back. Game ended before I had 4.  

 

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

I still Think FDR is rubbish addition to the game, and It most certainly takes away the fun from my game when i see one in the enemy team.

Actually I think we all agree they are broken AF and need to be fixed.

[HMCite]

1 minute ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Press P to shut it down, he will only spot you at 2.5km - too late to attack

I am not bothered by FDR attacking my DD.... Its the endless Spotting for the rest of enemy team That ruins my personal experience ... And also With The FDR I see all BBS run to one area stay far back for AA , and do not support team as much as they should. They leave Flanks Open, leave Point Of interest and do not support anyone who is trying to play for win/Objectives

I see that every now and then. And it sucks.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

4 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Don't have that ship

What? Not playing the game since Beta?

Noob!

^v^

[HMCite]

Thanks @Zuihou_Kai  and @BLUB__BLUB , for the chat.

I agree with most of what you said.
Yet I still remain Convinced , FDR is the worst CV addition to the game.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

What? Not playing the game since Beta?

Noob!

^v^

I have an account actually that is older than the game. But it's secrit 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

Thanks @Zuihou_Kai  and @BLUB__BLUB , for the chat.

I agree with most of what you said.
Yet I still remain Convinced , FDR is the worst CV addition to the game.

God damnit. 

Sorry for being toxic to you earlier I thought we will throw salt at each other. But... 

 

now you are nice to me and I feel bad q_q

[BLUB__BLUB]

5 minutes ago, HMCite said:

I am not bothered by FDR attacking my DD.... Its the endless Spotting for the rest of enemy team That ruins my personal experience ... And also With The FDR I see all BBS run to one area stay far back for AA , and do not support team as much as they should. They leave Flanks Open, leave Point Of interest and do not support anyone who is trying to play for win/Objectives

I've seen that happening waayyyy before as well. Had many games that lasted 5, 6, 7 minutes. 

Total ROFLSTOMPs that ended by one team (and could be mine) having zero points. 
And I could not even prevent it if I was in CV. 

 

5 minutes ago, HMCite said:

I see that every now and then. And it sucks.

It's kinda usual, really. Same as nobody supporting the DD. And yes it totally sucks. 

[HMCite]

Just now, Zuihou_Kai said:

God damnit. 

Sorry for being toxic to you earlier I thought we will throw salt at each other. But... 

 

now you are nice to me and I feel bad q_q

Nothing you said was wrong, and I found talking to you very friendly.

Have a Good day sir

[Aethervoxx]

4 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Why should I pick your Kuma?

You can pick what you want. I have a Kuma at T4 so I will pick that w a 10 pt Cpt.

Tho a 1v1 match should probably have the same ship class & same pt Cpt to be fair plus a limit on signal flags.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, Aethervoxx said:

You can pick what you want. I have a Kuma at T4 so I will pick that w a 10 pt Cpt.

Tho a 1v1 match should probably have the same ship class & same pt Cpt to be fair plus a limit on signal flags.

It's about him in a CV vs me in a surface ship

[BLUB__BLUB]

55 minutes ago, HMCite said:

Thanks @Zuihou_Kai  and @BLUB__BLUB , for the chat.

I agree with most of what you said.
Yet I still remain Convinced , FDR is the worst CV addition to the game.

You are kinda right, I thought that with Manfred the limit had been reached. 

Personally I think that is filthier than FDR. But that is related to that I do not play DDs, I guess. 

As I know it is a lot harder to get DDs with Manfred you'll not be bothered as much. 

 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, HMCite said:

So a player of 60 percent WR getting 80-90 percent WR when playing in div with FDR is "Working as Intended"?

 

Well, people can get 80% WR in div even when not playing CV, i dont think that arguement is strong.

 

I kinder wonder tho, why they released FDR as a steelship. Its a strong ship for bad (CV) players. Yet, which type of players accumulate lots of steel? Good players! Especially the CV mains dont need FDR to begin with, they are better of with faster planes, or CVs, that can properly kill DDs. And the others? I would maybe say, FDR would be a CV for me, or people like me. Alltho maybe not, because i dont have issues with dodging flak/losing planes, i just dont play CVs enough to have pinpoint drops all the time. But even if, why would i get FDR? I dont fancy playing CVs in the first place, and often i get bored after playing a few games. And i think thats actually a widespread issue amongst people, who have accumulated lots of steel to get the other "OP Steel ships". Afterall, many of them complain about CVs in the first place.

 

So we have a CV for noobs, locked behind a resource accumulated by mostly good players.

Did we need FDR? definetely not... but i guess we are lucky its a steelship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[arquata2019_]

4 ore fa, El2aZeR ha scritto:

 

The funny thing about this is that FDR isn't even that strong of a CV.

is it a flying conqueror then? (if conqueror does not impact the match neither will FDR, right?)

[El2aZeR]

29 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

is it a flying conqueror then? (if conqueror does not impact the match neither will FDR, right?)

 

Essentially yes.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Try killing a Conqueror with FDR. :D

 

fun and engaging 

[BLUB__BLUB]

38 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

is it a flying conqueror then? (if conqueror does not impact the match neither will FDR, right?)

I'd say it is more like a Fat Freddy. It sprays stuff al around and looks like a big fat dangerous one,

but actually to be most effective it needs to get close. Maybe it is a flying Halland. Sprays lacklustre torpedoes. 

Impressive amounts of ammo but low damage. 

 

9 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Essentially yes.

It doesn't make that much fire. I'd say it is a flying F. 

Flying Conqkek would be Indomitable. 

If you think "zombie regeneration" that's Kaga. 

 

7 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Try killing a Conqueror with FDR. :D

 

fun and engaging 

I have most fun doing that, actually it does work better than killing Conqkek with Audacious. 

If you give him occasion to heal a bit in between attacks, it gives mega-damage. 

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

Well, people can get 80% WR in div even when not playing CV, i dont think that arguement is strong.

Correct. Even a tater like me can get 70%.

 

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

I kinder wonder tho, why they released FDR as a steelship. Its a strong ship for bad (CV) players. Yet, which type of players accumulate lots of steel? Good players! Especially the CV mains dont need FDR to begin with, they are better of with faster planes, or CVs, that can properly kill DDs.

Again correct. FDR will not be my choice per sé in CB. 

Other CVs do the job (spotting) far better and keep it up longer. 
They have also much more alpha-damage, which is what you want.

 

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

And the others? I would maybe say, FDR would be a CV for me, or people like me. Alltho maybe not, because i dont have issues with dodging flak/losing planes, i just dont play CVs enough to have pinpoint drops all the time. But even if, why would i get FDR? I dont fancy playing CVs in the first place, and often i get bored after playing a few games. And i think thats actually a widespread issue amongst people, who have accumulated lots of steel to get the other "OP Steel ships". Afterall, many of them complain about CVs in the first place.

 

So we have a CV for noobs, locked behind a resource accumulated by mostly good players.

Did we need FDR? definetely not... but i guess we are lucky its a steelship ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

FDR is a meme-like ARk Royal at T10. Doesn't even get uptiered.

But if everyone gets it, there will be no more borderhumping and backspamming BBs... (yummie). 

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, El2aZeR ha scritto:

 

Essentially yes.

so, (16845~ steel away with coupon) is FDR worth it if i want to play clan battles/clan brawls or randoms?

because i like the concept of lmao hp squadrons but i don't know if i should actually grind steel for it

maybe you already said that, but, are you happy with the purchase of FDR? (as far as i see ill then use steel for something else)

[Farheim]

39 minutes ago, arquata2019 said:

so, (16845~ steel away with coupon) is FDR worth it if i want to play clan battles/clan brawls or randoms?

No. That's the shortest answer. Midway allows you to make much more impact, FDR is a mediocre CV made for mediocre players who wanna 'pew-pew' surface ships in randoms.

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

so, (16845~ steel away with coupon) is FDR worth it if i want to play clan battles/clan brawls or randoms?

because i like the concept of lmao hp squadrons but i don't know if i should actually grind steel for it

maybe you already said that, but, are you happy with the purchase of FDR? (as far as i see ill then use steel for something else)

I think you'll do OK in it, but worth the  steel? For CB I'd pick something else. Worth the steel, depends mostly what else is "on offer".  

For me, the alternative = Stalingrad. But we already have lots of those in the clan, and I doubt if I'd ever use it outside of CB. 

[Nov_A]

9 hours ago, Farheim said:

FDR is a mediocre CV made for mediocre players who wanna 'pew-pew' surface ships in randoms.

Sold.