General CV related discussions.

[BLUB__BLUB]

9 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

For high damage games go exclusively after BBs especially the ones that lack behind their team. Turn off your carry sense and just farm damage. Going after BBs only is also a good way to win because it disturbs their BBs from getting into better positions giving your team an easier time. 

I'll try that. Just farm, and not give a crap. The problem / question is, will that be a good way to win? 

I'm not sure those bordercampers would be the ones to kill for the win. 

They usually do not get into better positions. They think map border is the best position.

 

It will take me a while to get there, once I am then I can loiter & do about 5 strikes though. 

Suppose that takes 5 minutes, should be >100K. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

3 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

I'll try that. Just farm, and not give a crap. The problem / question is, will that be a good way to win? 

I'm not sure those bordercampers would be the ones to kill for the win. 

They usually do not get into better positions. They think map border is the best position.

 

It will take me a while to get there, once I am then I can loiter & do about 5 strikes though. 

Suppose that takes 5 minutes, should be >100K. 

You prioritize border campers until one of the others gets brave because he noticed that you are a pepega going for campers. Then you surprise him with total focus. works every time. 

[HMCite]

The game Needs More Ships like FDR .
Also the Existing FDR is very weak, needs Buff on Planes HP and Damage per run on each type of Squadrant is very puny. It needs to be increased 3 folds to make it average.
Also The AA on all ships needs to be nerfed by 300 percent.
Also, We need MORE CVS per game. Infact Wargaming should Introduce a Mode 9 CVs, 1 BB, 1 CA  , 1 DD each side. Will Bring you the results faster which Wargaming is trying to achieve.


I dont understand whats the point of these Retarded Forums? Why create Such threads?
They Never Fuking listen anyway and do What ever suits them and then write Spread sheet says everything is fine, so fuk all of your opinions.

In the end,

I think war gaming should Increase the Amount of Vodka Used per Employee when they are making Such WONDERFUL ships and changes.
First the Rework of the CVs, instead of Making the previous Balanced, then Introducing Ship like FDR, Nerfing AA to crap. And now They want to reset COmmander skills instead of fixing all thats fuking wrong already....

Lets distract everyone from the Retrded things we did by giving them a stupid commander rework, Sprint ranks, Ranks in multiple session, Clan brawls and CBs 

 

[1MajorKoenig]

3 minutes ago, HMCite said:

Also The AA on all ships needs to be nerfed by 300 percent.

Woohooo! Yes please - hold my beer! 

[HMCite]

I am just waiting for a Division mate to get online and Pick FDR then i can have a WR of 85% without breaking a sweat. That's so unfair to all those people facing The FDR , I would rather Abuse this rather than FDR be used against me and not being able to do anything...

Just played a game against FDR and guess what was happening all over the map :D.... game didnt last much longer

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[Yosha_AtaIante]

where is the sudden FDR hype coming from. Why isn't Midway cried about? wtf is going on? 

 

[HMCite]

I am not bothered too much by most CVs  ... yes they can be annoying , but man... FDR is just unbelievable and just on another level

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

I am not bothered too much by most CVs  ... yes they can be annoying , but man... FDR is just unbelievable and just on another level

 

why? What makes it more problematic? 

 

I mean if you are in a DD getting killed by an FDR you are doing many things wrong. 

[Sink_Different]

On 1/4/2021 at 8:13 PM, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Sailing around in a DD/Cruiser and being able to react to any danger immediately to not get destroyed... and switching to an AA view mode???? Sorry, that doesn't work for me. Might work in a BB, being slow and cumbersome and able to take a lot of damage, but even there it will lead to take other damage while trying to avoind damage from planes...

 

WG answer would be to remove AA from DD then.

[HMCite]

I will post the problem today on this post, once my friend with FDR gets online and i play in division with him.

Every game is 80-90 percent Certain Win.... 

Its just broken

[El2aZeR]

4 minutes ago, HMCite said:

FDR is just unbelievable and just on another level

 

The funny thing about this is that FDR isn't even that strong of a CV.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

I will post the problem today on this post, once my friend with FDR gets online and i play in division with him.

Every game is 80-90 percent Certain Win.... 

Its just broken

That's the same if I play other CVs. With a friend it's not unusual for us to reach such a winrate. So what's your point? 

[Sink_Different]

4 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

why? What makes it more problematic? 

 

I mean if you are in a DD getting killed by an FDR you are doing many things wrong. 

Because FDR can go on a parallel course to BB with its TB , activate its Torp , wait for optimal precision and then make a 90° turn toward the BB without penalty to the aim . The BB has  no way to react fast enough to avoid the full volley of torps.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, Sink_Different said:

Because FDR can go on a parallel course to BB with its TB , activate its Torp , wait for optimal precision and then make a 90° turn toward the BB without penalty to the aim . The BB has  no way to react fast enough to avoid the full volley of torps.

A BB knowing about this can dodge it EASILY. 

That's a one trick pony thing. 

 

BTW... you can do this with Midway too. Most are just to potato to do it

[HMCite]

6 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

That's the same if I play other CVs. With a friend it's not unusual for us to reach such a winrate. So what's your point? 

So a player of 60 percent WR getting 80-90 percent WR when playing in div with FDR is "Working as Intended"?

If so, I think I am complaining in the wrong section.... My bad

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 minutes ago, HMCite said:

So a player of 60 percent WR getting 80-80 percent WR when playing in div with FDR is "Working as Intenced"?

If so, I think I am complaining in the wrong section.... My bad

 

 

It's FDR and all other CVs. Start complaining about the silver line. At least they are allowed to be nerfed. Unlike FDR. 

Why do I need to tell you this anyway? Shouldn't you know better? 

Topkek

[HMCite]

6 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

It's FDR and all other CVs. Start complaining abour the silver line. At least they are allowed to be nerfed. Unlike FDR. 

Why do I need to tell you this anyway? Shouldn't you know better? 

Topkek

so you are saying Wargaming will not nerf Special Ships?
Lets see how the Commander rework Nerfs ships like Atlanta, Flint, Smolensk, Colbert.... 


And I cant find anywhere, where wargaming said they wont nerf special ship.

[Sink_Different]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

A BB knowing about this can dodge it EASILY. 

That's a one trick pony thing. 

 

BTW... you can do this with Midway too. Most are just to potato to do it

Just dodge is so 2018.

[HMCite]

15 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

I mean if you are in a DD getting killed by an FDR you are doing many things wrong.

I was killed by Halland not CV but the CV managed to kill 4 out of 5 ships including 2 BBs... and the rest were scared and left to one corner.

I am not complaining that CV killed me, no... It didnt but its so powerful and scary that team leaves and runs away to use each other AA leaving Tactical points, Points of interests and Flanks open ... and still the CV managed to kill 4 ourt of the 5 ships that were sunk

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, HMCite said:

I was killed by Halland not CV but the CV managed to kill 4 out of 5 ships including 2 BBs... and the rest were scared and left to one corner.

I am not complaining that CV killed me, no... It didnt but its so powerful and scary that team leaves and runs away to use each other AA leaving Tactical points, Points of interests and Flanks open ... and still the CV managed to kill 4 ourt of the 5 ships that were sunk

Dude all CVs are like that except implacable. Are you even playing the game? 

I guess El2a and me need to play more Midway again to summon new complaints. 

[HMCite]

3 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Dude all CVs are like that except implacable. Are you even playing the game? 

I guess El2a and me need to play more Midway again to summon new complaints. 

So,
CVs are working just Fine? and If we feel other wise we should not complain?

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 minutes ago, HMCite said:

So,
CVs are working just Fine? and If we feel other wise we should not complain?

No? Are you even reading? 

 

I've been telling you all this time. FDR is nothing special and all other CVs are even and even overperform compared to FDR. Midway is way more potent. 

You focusing on FDR is rather funny and useless. Better complain about the real. dangers. 

[HMCite]

Just now, Zuihou_Kai said:

No? Are you even reading? 

 

I've been telling you all this time. FDR is nothing special and all other CVs are even and even overperform compared to FDR. Midway is way more potent. 

You focusing on FDR is rather funny and useless. Better complain abkut the real. dangers. 

So that's you opinion... And I value that as you are a CV mains....
But being at the receiving end, I Know for sure , dealing with FDR is most of the times alot harder for my Random team than other CVs.

Yes you being A super Unicum CV can Inflict devastation with Midway and Haku as well, but that is just because of your own skill in addition to the CV issue.

But that doesnot change my opinion, What I am saying is
Same Potato Playing FDR and Midway will have better Chance of Harrasing enemy Team and loose less planes for it. Because its broken, Planes dont die, AA doesnt do crap to its planes, DDs can remain spotted for Ages and cant kill its planes even if a Noob CV chooses to.

From Your Perspective All CVs will be the same, But from my point of view a non CV player, FDR is not a good addition to the game. And I complain only about FDR.

[BLUB__BLUB]

12 minutes ago, HMCite said:

I was killed by Halland not CV but the CV managed to kill 4 out of 5 ships including 2 BBs... and the rest were scared and left to one corner.

I don;t thinkhe managed to kil 4 ships. Yes, maybe he FINISHED OFF 4 ships. 

 

12 minutes ago, HMCite said:

I am not complaining that CV killed me, no... It didnt but its so powerful and scary that team leaves and runs away to use each other AA leaving Tactical points, Points of interests and Flanks open ... and still the CV managed to kill 4 ourt of the 5 ships that were sunk

Your team kinda sucked if that is the endscore.

Is that a game where everybody hides behind island, and the game ends because your team has zero points?

However, if all that happened was 4 kills, and the CV did them all + most of the damage, the other team was sucking mighty hard as well. 

The only surprise there is that FDR did better than Midway, in such a case. 

For me, in such a case I'd rather have Midway as it is soooo much faster.

 

BTW yes maybe "its so powerful and scary that team leaves and runs away to use each other AA leaving Tactical points, Points of interests and Flanks open"

But BOTH teams have a CV. Maybe that's what happens then, BOTH leave and run away... 

[HMCite]

1 minute ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

I don;t thinkhe managed to kil 4 ships. Yes, maybe he FINISHED OFF 4 ships. 

 

Your team kinda sucked if that is the endscore.

Is that a game where everybody hides behind island, and the game ends because your team has zero points?

However, if all that happened was 4 kills, and the CV did them all + most of the damage, the other team was sucking mighty hard as well. 

The only surprise there is that FDR did better than Midway, in such a case. 

For me, in such a case I'd rather have Midway as it is soooo much faster.

 

BTW yes maybe "its so powerful and scary that team leaves and runs away to use each other AA leaving Tactical points, Points of interests and Flanks open"

But BOTH teams have a CV. Maybe that's what happens then, BOTH leave and run away... 

Exactly , Both teams have CV , but i dont see runing away from Midway and Hakuryu the way i see when there is an FDR...