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2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Dude you are done with t4 after 40~ battles no one will ever be stuck for more than that in those tiers. 

Agree, until they start grinding another line :)

 

But then they'll noob around at higher tiers and enjoy the HE spam from long range Smolensks (what was the reason Minotaur didn't HE again...)

and people like @El2aZeR completely overrunning them with no effective defence.

 

What a joy this game has become. For the record I tried WoT again for about a week. I realized why I stopped last christmas holiday this time also.. :P

At least with CVs you get some placebo kills unlike arty, and we don't have gold shells with +50% pen...

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3 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Spotting damage is mostly the only source for spotting exp?

I have never seen that it adds to XP alias credits earned. So IMO it is worthless. 

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2 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

tf is dat

for a small amount of money, you can have "balance".

 

It's the main reason WoT is so crap game in my opinion and I was so happy wows did not have any equivalent (which I almost expected). 

CVs however are as annoying as artillery, prehaps even more so...

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21 hours ago, Nibenay78 said:

Agree, until they start grinding another line :)

 

But then they'll noob around at higher tiers and enjoy the HE spam from long range Smolensks (what was the reason Minotaur didn't HE again...)

and people like @El2aZeR completely overrunning them with no effective defence.

 

What a joy this game has become. For the record I tried WoT again for about a week. I realized why I stopped last christmas holiday this time also.. :P

At least with CVs you get some placebo kills unlike arty, and we don't have gold shells with +50% pen...

And who cares? WoT even while being a piece of crap game is still more than healthy. And nothing looks like this will EVER change. Wows is still healthy. So the nubs instead of quitting are just staying in high tiers, buying premiums and whatnot. 

Why do you care about the health of the game anyway? it's not like you can change anything or improve anything. 

 

If you truly want to change something go work for WG, work your way up and see if you can change it that way. 

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2 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

If you truly want to change something go work for WG, work your way up and see if you can change it that way

Wouldn't that be like... going into gulag as a volunteer? Great service for the community (of the game) but.. even Jesus didn't manage doing such kind of changes without getting crucified first, right?

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11 minutes ago, Inappropriate_noob said:

Is there a bug with CV autopilot?

 

Lately when I try I just highlight a particular square and nothing happens,annoying for me as it is confusing for my team.

Happens from time to time, i think its lack of reponse and then i click again, ending up being registered as doubleclick.

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3 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

And who cares? WoT even while being a piece of crap game is still more than healthy. And nothing looks like this will EVER change. Wows is still healthy. So the nubs instead of quitting are just staying in high tiers, buying premiums and whatnot. 

Why do you care about the health of the game anyway? it's not like you can change anything or improve anything. 

you're correct that my (or anyone elses) ability to change the game is marginal. but I'm happy to do what options I have.

 

1) offer constructive critisism why I think something is bad for my (and possibly others') enjoyment. - done

2) not pay - done since 4-5 years I'd hazard a guess on.

3) give negative review - done

4) stop playing the game. - I still enjoy it, but certain elements are really destructive for my enjoyment. Seeing WGs greedy business culture doesn't help.

 

3 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

If you truly want to change something go work for WG, work your way up and see if you can change it that way. 

While your suggestions is true, I don't find that leaving friends and family, changing job and country in order for this to happen is very appealing. It's perfectly possible I would not get hired and most likely I'd earn significantly less even if I did.

Since this option is not a very likely one, I'll just have to stick with my marginal options, no?

 

so why do you care what I care about?

 

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I care because I'm interested in why you attempt it in the first place. It's low energy and low effort to type on a game forum but expecting the same to do any change and be honest, there are not nearly enough voices on this forum and on reddit combined to even call it a marginal possibility of success... so why? Is it because for the low effort you put in you get support by the little group of others who think same as you? 

 

Is that acknowledgement what you seek? Like the feeling that you are part of a small minority that tries to do the right thing or is it genuine belief that you are going to help this game turn for the better? 

 

Then Why choose to support this game instead of arguably more important matters like solving energy crisis by donating or protesting against nuclear power on a forum? Isnt your minimal keyboard warrior effort better invested there? Why waste your precious typing power for a shitty wows game? 

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5 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

I care because I'm interested in why you attempt it in the first place. It's low energy and low effort to type on a game forum but expecting the same to do any change and be honest, there are not nearly enough voices on this forum and on reddit combined to even call it a marginal possibility of success... so why? Is it because for the low effort you put in you get support by the little group of others who think same as you? 

 

Is that acknowledgement what you seek? Like the feeling that you are part of a small minority that tries to do the right thing or is it genuine belief that you are going to help this game turn for the better? 

 

Then Why choose to support this game instead of arguably more important matters like solving energy crisis by donating or protesting against nuclear power on a forum? Isnt your minimal keyboard warrior effort better invested there? Why waste your precious typing power for a shitty wows game? 

Why are you so bitter doe?

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4 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Why are you so bitter doe?

I'm not. I'm just confrontational to make this a bit more spicy. 

Admit it, without me this topic would be less entertaining to read 

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2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

I'm not. I'm just confrontational to make this a bit more spicy. 

Admit it, without me this topic would be less entertaining to read 

I hope so, we should be a bit moar merry as its the new year and last year was shite enough. 

I actually haven't read this thread for ages now, just seen the recent barrage from you and nibby atm.

 

Too be fair i thought you actually went to play other games. (Do you play others?).

 

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5 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

I hope so, we should be a bit moar merry as its the new year and last year was shite enough. 

I actually haven't read this thread for ages now, just seen the recent barrage from you and nibby atm.

 

Too be fair i thought you actually went to play other games. (Do you play others?).

 

yes I do, I barely play Wows because atm not interested and other games have priority. 

I will come back for CBs and sometimes to play with friends. I still enjoy it but can't play the same forever and ever. 

 

Also you missed  nothing, it's the same crap over and over since the topic was opened, locked and opened again. Nothing new here barney. 

 

I respect your decision to quit tough. Well done. much better than what some others who still cry do. They torture themselves without knowing lol. 

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2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

yes I do, I barely play Wows because atm not interested and other games have priority. 

I will come back for CBs and sometimes to play with friends. I still enjoy it but can't play the same forever and ever. 

 

Also you missed  nothing, it's the same crap over and over since the topic was opened, locked and opened again. Nothing new here barney. 

 

I respect your decision to quit tough. Well done. much better than what some others who still cry do. They torture themselves without knowing lol. 

Fair, i've been playing mostly runescape and nothing else, think of going back to eve online maybe.

Too be fair, i just completely lost interest in-gaming in-general after uni it was untill november i got an urge to play again. Mostly been doing 3d modelling and writing me book and contemplating becoming a streamer (lol). Maybe hololive UK since dat doesnt exist yet (I think.)

 

Ye, too be fair thats why i dont visit this forum much, i like the community but nothing much new is on, because of the same forum topics and lack of new actual content too be fair.

 

Its like world of tanks really, i feel no urge to play either really, last time i played both, i was bored and looked out of window quite a bit mid-match. Just left on both accounts too be fair.

At least my portfolio is alot bigger than it was too begin with, i will also make a website on wix (for professional reasons) later on this year once, i get stuff sorted.

 

Be funny to use my avatar as a stream character, im glad i can model too be fair ill probs make a full one just for practice really.

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5 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Do you accept commissions once you got used to it? 

Havent taken any too be fair, i can sell my models sketchfab and maybe turbosquid as well. My drawing skills are...less than admirable lol. Although i should re-practice them as they help with modelling things like characters (as long as they arent cats in power armour lol).

 

Ill probs have to branch out to other social medias as well (ew) and place to get moneh from commissions.

 

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Copied from another thread:
 

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Short version:

  • CV do not belong in game due to not risking their HP and thus their continuing involvment in battle;
  • CV can set up cross fires anytime, any place;
  • 1 v 1 it is possible to dodge most CV attacks, but it isn't a 1 v 1 game;
  • in a PvP game, to have the whole AA interaction handed to an automated system is horrible;
  • spotting - can be done anywhere with little effort - takes a lot of complexity out of the game;
  • most CV damage is not healable;
  • no CV v CV gameplay;
  • DD and CA lose movement, have to stick with rest of team, usually at the back of the map;
  • end result is static and boring long range gameplay;
  • solutions - player control of AA, make CV damage healable or turn CV into support class;

it's nothing we haven't read on here a thousand times already but it's a good video and a good starting point for discussion.

 

Personally I don't think the solutions are viable because:

  • player controlled AA guns might work for BB but what about DD and CA?  They'd likely end up screwed even more;
  • not every ship has a heal, especially at tiers where CV are most prevalent, the change would help BB but again end up screwing most CA/DD even more;
  • nobody would play a class that essentially amounts to dropping care packages for other ships every couple of minutes;

but that's just my 2p worth.

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48 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

player controlled AA guns might work for BB but what about DD and CA?  They'd likely end up screwed even more

Sailing around in a DD/Cruiser and being able to react to any danger immediately to not get destroyed... and switching to an AA view mode???? Sorry, that doesn't work for me. Might work in a BB, being slow and cumbersome and able to take a lot of damage, but even there it will lead to take other damage while trying to avoind damage from planes...

 

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On 1/2/2021 at 7:21 PM, Nibenay78 said:

Agree, until they start grinding another line :)

 

T4 used to be one of the most enjoyable places to be in the whole game, classes nicely balanced against each other and each able to do their job, actually sailing forward in mobile game-play instead of cowering at the back of the map waiting for someone to do something, a good place to learn the game and improve, now god help them.

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14 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

I care because I'm interested in why you attempt it in the first place. It's low energy and low effort to type on a game forum but expecting the same to do any change and be honest, there are not nearly enough voices on this forum and on reddit combined to even call it a marginal possibility of success... so why? Is it because for the low effort you put in you get support by the little group of others who think same as you? 

 

Is that acknowledgement what you seek? Like the feeling that you are part of a small minority that tries to do the right thing or is it genuine belief that you are going to help this game turn for the better? 

I'd like this game to be more enjoyable. 

14 hours ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

 

Then Why choose to support this game instead of arguably more important matters like solving energy crisis by donating or protesting against nuclear power on a forum? Isnt your minimal keyboard warrior effort better invested there? Why waste your precious typing power for a shitty wows game? 

Why don't you instead of psychoanalysing some random guy on a forum which game you don't play? 

 

Btw I'd love to have nuclear power in my city... I'd apply for a job asap!

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12 hours ago, arquata2019 said:

why is it so low at the end?

There's a bomb dispersion nerf that went live. Quote from one discord " I missed all 3 bombs on a Bismarck. TWICE! "

 

Massive rng is always an excellent way to keep ships fun and engaging :Smile_trollface:

 

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