General CV related discussions.

[BLUB__BLUB]

Just now, DFens_666 said:

 

I have 229 currently

But getting salty reports is really common.

Oh sometimes I have 50, but usually doesn't last long. 

The hate is stronger than the love, usually. 

Never got chatbanned though. Maybe I should improve the salt? 

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Pikkozoikum said:

There are ways to get more upvotes. That includes: Never use chat. As soon yo usay something, taht someone dislikes, if true or not, they start down voting ;)

If someone writes in chat, how bad you are, and you explain "I did that, because enemy was at position x etc" ,then they down vote you

 

So yes, there are ways to get high karma. My Asashio gets always a lot karma, though when playing ranked, my karma goes down :D

I chat a lot, including getting chatbans for less positive chat! so.. 

[Exocet6951]

4 hours ago, Capra76 said:

 

If WG replaced CV with airfields, inside of or outside of the map, how many players would notice a difference?

 

It would be way worse.

There would be no satisfaction from firing a full salvo and seeing a delicious quad citpen and devastating strike, or the joy of running down that last remaining CV with 4 ships, taking perverse pleasure in the panicked and frantic movements of the CV as it reaches the blue line.

[DFens_666]

2 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Never got chatbanned though. Maybe I should improve the salt? 

 

Was chatbanned several times by now

Just recently finished a 10 day ban i believe it was.

[guy_incognito79]

37 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

They also had a HE-spam cruiser. Don't remember what one, I think Neptune.

Jingles, is that you?

[SV_Kompresor]

6 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Never got chatbanned though. Maybe I should improve the salt?

You're not welcome in our clan. Being chatbanned is something of a requirement here.

[Lootboxer]

11 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Zero karma is what you get anyway if you play the game. 
Plenty numbskulls reporting you for not doing what they want you to do. 

 

As in, DD go cap! yeah right in front of 2 radar-cruisers and no assistance. 

I call it BS, in DDs is the easiest to get complimented and even in CVs you can be sometimes, rarely though.

Somehow I am at 125 currently (would be more if not CV games and reports from enemy DDs) and I am not even a very good player.

Just play less CVs

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

Was chatbanned several times by now

Just recently finished a 10 day ban i believe it was.

Ah, and not using chat = positive karma. The blessings of being chatbanned? 

 

1 minute ago, guy_incognito79 said:

Jingles, is that you?

Could be, I am the same age. I look a lot less like Santa though. 

Must say I have a similar tendency to FF stuff up. 

[NobleRipper]

Suggestion to improve the Tier 4 Sky Police situation and give newbies a bit of a break: replace the T4 CVs with airships.

 

Serious. They still fly, they're still faster and handle mostly like aircraft so are decent training for higher tiers, but they're about as ponderous in turning as ships and they have to physically go to the place they want to do damage (am assuming it would be by bombs, on cooldown/reloading between attacks in the same way as ships' guns, could even give the same choice between AP and HE if we're feeling fancy). Ships would damage them with AA guns, then it would just be a matter of balancing their HP appropriately. They'd have on-board machineguns to shoot at each other with.

[Nibenay78]

43 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

They also had a HE-spam cruiser. Don't remember what one, I think Neptune

Now.. since Minotaur is one of my favorite ships, can someone enlighten me why it did NOT get HE when it was released? anyone?

 

Also its great how one of the best AA cruisers can get repeatedly struck by tier 8 CVs...

[DFens_666]

Just now, Nibenay78 said:

Now.. since Minotaur is one of my favorite ships, can someone enlighten me why it did NOT get HE when it was released? anyone?

 

"HE spamming from smoke would be OP"

[Capra76]

1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said:

Now.. since Minotaur is one of my favorite ships, can someone enlighten me why it did NOT get HE when it was released? anyone?

 

I think the theory was that smoke + HE was too powerful, so they released Belfast and gave it a radar at T7 as well.

[Nibenay78]

4 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

"HE spamming from smoke would be OP"

 

2 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

I think the theory was that smoke + HE was too powerful, so they released Belfast and gave it a radar at T7 as well.

Ding ding! we have a winner. So how is smolensk doing at the same Tier? only AP right!

[arquata2019_]

3 minuti fa, Capra76 ha scritto:

 

I think the theory was that smoke + HE was too powerful, so they released Belfast and gave it a radar at T7 as well.

let's say A is bad, so instead of A we place B

but let's place A+B later? why da hell not?!

[DFens_666]

Just now, Nibenay78 said:

 

Ding ding! we have a winner. So how is smolensk doing at the same Tier? only AP right!

 

Glorious soviet navy ships are excempt from such rules

But i guess thats how powercreep works. Cruisers sitting in smoke was already a big gimmick back then, so we had to gradually increase the powercreep over years so we can get Smolensk.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Oh are we back to the topic of WG and their contradictions? Not that we haven't talked about this yet a thousand times before 

[BLUB__BLUB]

5 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

Now.. since Minotaur is one of my favorite ships, can someone enlighten me why it did NOT get HE when it was released? anyone?

 

Also its great how one of the best AA cruisers can get repeatedly struck by tier 8 CVs...

Well it is easy to strike a Mino, since they always wait to deploy smoke - and if they sit still and smoke, it is not that hard to find out where they are.

I'm always amazed how people think, they sit still, get spotted by CV, then just use smoke... and keep sitting where they were. I think it is this:

Where in other ships the "lock-on reticule" helps with aim, and gets thrown off when you smoke up... CVs do not have this "handy helper". So, no effect... 

 

As for attacking a Mino in the first place... yes it can be done. Usually they sit behind mountains and such.

They have good AA (well... as good as it gets) but if you manage to approach "unspotted" the AA does nothing.

So you pop up 3km from the Mino, drop torps (into his sudden smoke) and get out quickly.

 

However you can't do stuff like that with AP-rockets from German Cvs as their aim goes waaayyyyyy off. 

 

4 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

"HE spamming from smoke would be OP"

Unless Russian. Mino has improved pen angles though. 

 

2 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

I think the theory was that smoke + HE was too powerful, so they released Belfast and gave it a radar at T7 as well.

You forgot Smolly. Add hydro, too. 

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Oh are we back to the topic of WG and their contradictions? Not that we haven't talked about this yet a thousand times before 

You're free to ignore this section if you find it too tedious. I'm writing in between waiting for a ship to return to port :D 

 

But you're right! Remove CVs!! back to topic!

 

Just now, BLUB__BLUB said:

As for attacking a Mino in the first place... yes it can be done. Usually they sit behind mountains and such.

They have good AA (well... as good as it gets) but if you manage to approach "unspotted" the AA does nothing.

So you pop up 3km from the Mino, drop torps (into his sudden smoke) and get out quickly.

And just dodge! showing broadside isn't dangerous in a Mino after all!

[Yosha_AtaIante]

25 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

You're free to ignore this section

Exactly. But I rather do the silly thing and complain about you complaining. 

There was the idea to add dets for CVs.Why not. One can mount an anti det flag. no difference. 

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Exactly. But I rather do the silly thing and complain about you complaining. 

There was the idea to add dets for CVs.Why not. One can mount an anti det flag. no difference. 

You're learning! now if we can focus the complaining about me complaining to complaining about CVs!...

 

Why not 60 sec fire also? 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

3 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

You're learning! now if we can focus the complaining about me complaining to complaining about CVs!...

 

Why not 60 sec fire also? 

Because they can't heal it like other ships in higher tiers and a fire ticks for as much as on a BB. 

[Nibenay78]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Because they can't heal it like other ships in higher tiers and a fire ticks for as much as on a BB. 

Hard life... I'm sure WG can change the damage pr tick. As long as the planes can't take off, its all good.

[DFens_666]

2 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Because they can't heal it like other ships in higher tiers and a fire ticks for as much as on a BB. 

 

5% is 18%?

Even best scenario would be 5% vs 10,4%.

 

Also most DDs cant heal either. And CVs are most of the time safe. But apparently, they need more training wheels in case they do get under fire, so they dont sink fast enough.

This could ofc also come from WGs theory, that BBs should shoot HE at CVs. See bots using HE against CVs... for whatever reason that might be

 

11 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

One can mount an anti det flag. no difference.  

 

Except for 80% who dont use that flag

[BLUB__BLUB]

57 minutes ago, NobleSauvage said:

Suggestion to improve the Tier 4 Sky Police situation and give newbies a bit of a break: replace the T4 CVs with airships.

 

Serious. They still fly, they're still faster and handle mostly like aircraft so are decent training for higher tiers, but they're about as ponderous in turning as ships and they have to physically go to the place they want to do damage (am assuming it would be by bombs, on cooldown/reloading between attacks in the same way as ships' guns, could even give the same choice between AP and HE if we're feeling fancy). Ships would damage them with AA guns, then it would just be a matter of balancing their HP appropriately. They'd have on-board machineguns to shoot at each other with.

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35 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said:

And just dodge! showing broadside isn't dangerous in a Mino after all!

It always is. But thinking that smoking up will help you if you still stay in place... well... 

That is how I get most of them anyway, if I fly in when they are in the open, or something, I usually lose so many planes it's not worth it. 

I can still get them, but well, no. 

[st_dasa]

1 hour ago, Nibenay78 said:

Zero karma should force players into coop until they have positive :D

 

Good thing my karma is currently sitting at the firm figure of 1.