[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5851 Posted December 7, 2020 2 ore fa, GarrusBrutus ha scritto: But most of all: MAKE. AA. PLAYER. CONTROLLED when i play that game this evening/tomorrow i'll post the screenshot battlestations pacific and battlestations midway (are very very old game but historical ones, with pacific having even the japanese campaign) have the aa controlled by player, if you are cv: planes have to take off ONE by ONE, lift ONE by ONE, they have to get prepared (wings) and, "get the speed" and take off, you have to know every ship's historical aa, does south dakota have good aa? heck yeah, destroyers? fubuki, shimakaze and fletcher/allen m. sumner, many dds. cruisers? same. you have direct control of planes, can change your units (you can choose to play a cv, or a dd, or a bb/cl/ca in the moment), can have a view inside your planes,, to be honest i love those two games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5852 Posted December 7, 2020 52 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: a question about WR (without divisions) how can you unicum cv players get 60%+ WR? i hunt dds too, (usually) i usually place air cover on my teammates... how can you all get such high WR in random mm? also, i don't blame other cv players ^_^ I'd not call 60% unicum, I have it too in some CVs. And I'm not unicum by far, just a bit savvy. If you're > 70% then that starts to be unicum, 60% is just what chance you have to get team that are salvageable or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacFergus Beta Tester 1,067 posts 4,880 battles Report post #5853 Posted December 7, 2020 I am beginning to see what people are talking about now in my recent game with Kaga i destroyed a DD division two were low health but the third i spotted and got him destroyed all with one squadron of attack aircraft , It does seem the spotting mechanic is very flawed and needs to be taken away from CVs its to powerful. On a sidenote this was in the first few mins of the game , Our team went on to steamroll the enemy only losing 1 ship and we gained all the caps and i got a pat on the back from a few players but it ruined the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CKBK] Dobbel0 Players 47 posts 40,150 battles Report post #5854 Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, AndyHill said: This 230+ page discussion is part two in the series. So far we've had several people come in and state that they've mastered the magical counterplay to carriers, yet nobody ever actually has, so you will probably excuse us for not being overly impressed by that statement. I'm still willing to listen if you're willing to reveal how you counterplay them - after all, who knows if we've finally found someone who can. My bingo sheet: - Stay away from frontlines - Hug friendly ships - Waste every captain skill point, upgrade and consumable on AA - Show broadside to 11 ships to dodge planes - Make him lose a few planes when he kills you - Make him waste time hunting you before he kills you You forgot, get hit by a Thunderer, HE bombs or Conqeror salvo so all skills are completely waisted on broken AA.. Other then that the tactics seems legit 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #5855 Posted December 8, 2020 15 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: We all play wows because we like a naval themed arcade combat game. Cvs belong to be in such a game. If WG replaced CV with airfields, inside of or outside of the map, how many players would notice a difference? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5856 Posted December 8, 2020 3 minuti fa, Capra76 ha scritto: If WG replaced CV with airfields, inside of or outside of the map, how many players would notice a difference? imagine thinking that now, (like we say in italian) aircrafts grew up on trees! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellbolt Players 61 posts 4,732 battles Report post #5857 Posted December 8, 2020 Current CV state is total garbage. AA is more like placebo. Playing DD in a CV game is useless because you cannot do the DD thing: spotting, capturing. Some will say dogde: no you can't do it. Come on - make the AA effective again - or maybe limit the plane HP pool by half so the CV will have to think its move over. Currently i see Midway planes flying over squad of 2 AA cruisers with no losses doing their drop and returning mostly intact. You can avoid other ships shooting at you but you cannot avoid CV attack... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #5858 Posted December 8, 2020 LOL. I took my crate loot Orkan for a spin, had a fun with killing Ostergotland, then engaged Chung Mu and we were merrily shooting each other, having fun etc. and then our CVs decided to come and "help" us. They really helped. To carry us both back to the port 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FJAKA] st_dasa Players 457 posts 15,659 battles Report post #5859 Posted December 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, DariusJacek said: LOL. I took my crate loot Orkan for a spin, had a fun with killing Ostergotland, then engaged Chung Mu and we were merrily shooting each other, having fun etc. and then our CVs decided to come and "help" us. They really helped. To carry us both back to the port Have you considered dodging? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #5860 Posted December 8, 2020 54 minutes ago, st_dasa said: Have you considered dodging? Yesterday I met a DD with AA enabled straight lining for a cap. I killed him with 3 strikes with the very first squadron I took off because he literally went straightb the whole time not even trying to dodge. Enemy team cursed me saying I ruined the game for him. Well... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #5861 Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Yesterday I met a DD with AA enabled straight lining for a cap. I killed him with 3 strikes with the very first squadron I took off because he literally went straightb the whole time not even trying to dodge. Enemy team cursed me saying I ruined the game for him. Well... They would just die a minute later either to - Smoking in the cap, sitting broadside in one puff getting torped or - same as above but getting radared instead 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5862 Posted December 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, Zuihou_Kai said: Yesterday I met a DD with AA enabled straight lining for a cap. I killed him with 3 strikes with the very first squadron I took off because he literally went straightb the whole time not even trying to dodge. Enemy team cursed me saying I ruined the game for him. Well... Ah lucky you. I got two, a Halland and a Harugumo. They were torping our camper-BBs from behind an island (which the campers were hiding behind). They also had a HE-spam cruiser. Don't remember what one, I think Neptune. I managed to kill the cruiser, then the Harugumo. Almost Halland. Meanwhile my team tatered to death. Guess what, zero karma and got called mong and such. Duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5863 Posted December 8, 2020 1 minuto fa, BLUB__BLUB ha scritto: They also had a HE-spam cruiser. Don't remember what one, I think Neptune. ok neptune evolved 2 minuti fa, BLUB__BLUB ha scritto: Meanwhile my team tatered to death. Guess what, zero karma and got called mong and such. Duh. i once got 15karma in two battles with cvs, 9/8 in the first and the rest in the second :DD (ofc, reports did their part later) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5864 Posted December 8, 2020 3 ore fa, hellbolt ha scritto: Current CV state is total garbage. AA is more like placebo. Playing DD in a CV game is useless because you cannot do the DD thing: spotting, capturing. when i was haunted by a weser i won the game by myself in a gadjah mada, my team was 100% losing, cornered, everything was very bad for us. i went to cap A B C, and i won that (weser haunted me with rockets but ok) i returned to port with some hp kek (i was lucky btw) (i have screenshots, true story told by me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5865 Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: ok neptune evolved Euuhh... oh wait. Neptune have no HE... LOL. Anyway it was spamming something, like lotsa dakka dakka. i wasn't the subject of the spam so what it was, main thing is it had smoke. I remember it wasn't a Smolly. Also didn't last long that is why I do not recall.. 4 minutes ago, arquata2019 said: i once got 15karma in two battles with cvs, 9/8 in the first and the rest in the second :DD (ofc, reports did their part later) Most I ever got was +5. Lasted 3 games before back to zero karma. But I also play Smolensk.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #5866 Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Most I ever got was +5. Lasted 3 games before back to zero karma. Zero karma should force players into coop until they have positive :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5867 Posted December 8, 2020 16 minuti fa, BLUB__BLUB ha scritto: But I also play Smolensk.... then you're not one of us anymore 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NTT] arquata2019_ Players 2,248 posts 17,480 battles Report post #5868 Posted December 8, 2020 2 minuti fa, Nibenay78 ha scritto: Zero karma should force players into coop until they have positive :D so.. never? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5869 Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: Zero karma should force players into coop until they have positive :D Zero karma is what you get anyway if you play the game. Plenty numbskulls reporting you for not doing what they want you to do. As in, DD go cap! yeah right in front of 2 radar-cruisers and no assistance. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5870 Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, arquata2019 said: then you're not one of us anymore I'm not. I play 30%BB, 30% CA, 30% CV and the rest DD. And I'm as potato as they come, play weekends too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #5871 Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nibenay78 said: Zero karma should force players into coop until they have positive :D People tend to rather report, than to vote up. People tend more to notice "missplays" or they look for misplays, than they look for good plays 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_I_] Nibenay78 Players 3,266 posts 27,734 battles Report post #5872 Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Pikkozoikum said: People tend to rather report, than to vote up. People tend more to notice "missplays" or they look for misplays, than they look for good plays I know, yet some manage to get to 1000.. personally I was at 300 until i got FDR for fun and giggles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BBMM] BLUB__BLUB [BBMM] Players 8,818 posts 17,199 battles Report post #5873 Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Pikkozoikum said: People tend to rather report, than to vote up. People tend more to notice "missplays" or they look for misplays, than they look for good plays If you play well, you may not get upvotes from your own team. But you'll sure get some downvotes from the reds. Enjoy the salt... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #5874 Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said: Zero karma is what you get anyway if you play the game. I have 229 currently But getting salty reports is really common. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #5875 Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Nibenay78 said: I know, yet some manage to get to 1000.. personally I was at 300 until i got FDR for fun and giggles. There are ways to get more upvotes. That includes: Never use chat. As soon yo usay something, taht someone dislikes, if true or not, they start down voting ;) If someone writes in chat, how bad you are, and you explain "I did that, because enemy was at position x etc" ,then they down vote you So yes, there are ways to get high karma. My Asashio gets always a lot karma, though when playing ranked, my karma goes down :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites