General CV related discussions.

[1MajorKoenig]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

And I'm sure that Halland player feels better knowing this......

Probably he does. Considering he eliminated yourself for a quarter or more of the match. Unless his team is zombie that should have sufficed to win. 

[Bear__Necessities]

1 minute ago, MacFergus said:

 

So DDs don't WASD you?.

 

Or do you have teammates that focus fire your spotted DDs ?.

 

I play Solo so don't have that luxury. 

Of course they wsad. Doesn't mean they are not easy pickings. And you think I stop playing CV well solo? Ok.....

[ForlornSailor]

4 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Probably he does. Considering he eliminated yourself for a quarter or more of the match. Unless his team is zombie that should have sufficed to win. 

 

Ignoring, that the Halland eliminated himself for the entire match because its one of the guys, that border hug around the map to hunt the CV.

So how should the team win this way, when they lack the spotting of the DD, which the enemy team has?

And, well, last but not least: yoloing yourself to death on a CV is hardly "eliminating the CV". but interesting logic. Is the BB, that turns broadside into a wall of DD torps also "eliminating the DD for several minutes" because you know, many DDs have 120+ sec torp reload? I mean that DD cant kill anything else for those 2 mins, so the BB did a great job, swalling those torps. Who knows what the DD might have done else, right...

[Bear__Necessities]

2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Probably he does. Considering he eliminated yourself for a quarter or more of the match. Unless his team is zombie that should have sufficed to win. 

No, I eliminated him, and still stomped on their team. I fail to see how I was impeded from doing anything other than being utterly successful...

 

@El2aZeR help me out here, am I missing something? Coz they think I was somehow "stopped"? From what I don't know... 

[ForlornSailor]

2 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

@El2aZeR help me out here, am I missing something? Coz they think I was somehow "stopped"? From what I don't know... 

 

Everyone, that looks at the situation with some logic and knows how this game needs to be played sees it the way we do.

I mean they basically argue now, that a DD "sneaking" up the 10 line to try and snipe the CV shall be concidered "awesome DD play" which "wins games". Dont really need to argue against that, it defeats itself.

[Bear__Necessities]

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

Everyone, that looks at the situation with some logic and knows how this game needs to be played sees it the way we do.

I mean they basically argue now, that a DD "sneaking" up the 10 line to try and snipe the CV shall be concidered "awesome DD play" which "wins games". Dont really need to argue against that, it defeats itself.

Errrrrmmmm. I have something to confess. 

 

I'm a CV murdering DD player, and I have a SERIOUS addiction to it...

 

https://replayswows.com/replay/113890#stats

 

https://replayswows.com/replay/112059#stats

 

https://replayswows.com/replay/109276#stats

 

https://replayswows.com/replay/114661#stats

 

I've claimed over 80 CV pelts in 3 months of playing....

 

But, In my defence. I'm currently one of the best DD players going, so I'm an exception who has specialised in hunting back. Key work being exception. 

 

 

 

[arquata2019_]

1 ora fa, marcopieroni16 ha scritto:

more voices for the planes "ready to take off" and something , actually there is not much interaction between air groups and the carrier.
custom skin for planes, i'd like to see kates and vals on the kaga like the real thing but instead i have the planes mounted on the zuikaku at the end of the war.
variants of loadouts, for example less attack aircraft for more bombers , this would be nice for dds and bad for bbs, a better reticle with a decent dispersion, actually 6 bombs can miss a not moving ship

they existed until game has updates recently,

"maintaining present course" "we're under attack!" "engaging enemy"

old ones: "awaiting instructions,over" "group 1, group 2, group 3..."

1 ora fa, marcopieroni16 ha scritto:

i'd like a  more competitive gameplay, not RNG dependant, and more complex flight deck for example : if planes are landing i cant make a take off instantly or during this operation (unless on major tiers where the deck is very long and it can afford to make them simultansly) , a decent animation with wires  (landings) 

i have a game, Battlestations: Midway (i am not advertising, it's such an old game also) where you can see planes actually landing on carrier, using the lift, planes getting ready on land-based hangars, or planes "getting up" (i don't remember the eng word now, but is someone dares to correct me i send him to worcester valley, a happy HE spam area) as 1, 2, 3, 4,....

 

1 ora fa, marcopieroni16 ha scritto:

aircraft carrirers need attetion as the other classes, they can be even further developed because they are a very special type of ship, they are not a jsut a shooting cannon on water, they are an airport, an HQ .

that is a good idea, however, we will eventually (immediately) find weekend people who say:

"ProTeCt My CapItaL ShIP!" "IM A VERY VERY GOOD BOAT PLS PROTECT ME" "WELL, YOU'RE IMPORTANT BUT I AM MORE THAN YOU"

[ForlornSailor]

4 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

I've claimed over 80 CV pelts in 3 months of playing....

 

For me the game usualy ends too fast before I can finish the job... *sob*

 

[DDG_121]

58 minutes ago, st_dasa said:

 

Judging by the stats you have in the ship, I'd love to meet your Halland. And I don't play CVs.

Lol another stats detective. I'm all in.

 

But you're aware what the argument is here about CVs vs Halland right? 

[rnat]

1 hour ago, Bear__Necessities said:

No, I mean in 3 mins total

Sorry if I caused a misunderstanding.

I asked about the timestamp (on the video) since it starts after the Hallands demise which does not make too much sense to me given that that is presumably what is being showcased.

[Bear__Necessities]

22 minutes ago, Zimbiye said:

Lol another stats detective. I'm all in.

 

But you're aware what the argument is here about CVs vs Halland right? 

Still means squat. If I want a Halland dead when I'm in any CV, it's dead. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

6 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Still means squat. If I want a Halland dead when I'm in any CV, it's dead. 

Can you support that claim? Or does it need to happen in random battles with a team helping you? 

 

Stating in "any" CV is extremely bold. I would love to put you in your place 

[rnat]

9 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Still means squat. If I want a Halland dead when I'm in any CV, it's dead. 

Maybe amend it to "any CV it can meet in battle" ? But even with that I'd be very skeptical about the Parsevals ability to effectively deal with her (not that MvR does fantastically in that regard either).

[Yosha_AtaIante]

1 minute ago, rnat said:

Maybe amend it to "any CV it can meet in battle" ? But even with that I'd be very skeptical about the Parsevals ability to effectively deal with her (not that MvR does fantastically in that regard either).

He is exaggerating big time. Probably never went against a CV main in a Halland. 

[ForlornSailor]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

Can you support that claim? Or does it need to happen in random battles with a team helping you? 

 

Does it need to happen in a training room? And what would it proof? Training rooms have nothing to do with "reality". With training room I could prolly "proof" how OP any DD with torps is against a battleship. A BB could never win in any way unless the DD is a turd. Now does that proof DDs are super OP? hardly. And why is a "team helping you" concidered something bad or concidered to water down his efford? Dont people complain all the time about lack of teamwork and selffish play? People not shooting spotting targets? Now its looked down upon? I said id many times before and I say it again: Super unicum CVs kill the DD himself. The not that awesome CVs kill the DD by spotting. Where is the difference. DD is dead. In the few CV games ive played I sometimes resort to just hoover around the DD myself because im not that awesome in hitting them myself. Big surprise - DD dead soon. Those people would have prolly shot the DD themself even if I were to attack him myself. So I lost a few seconds, because the DD survived a little longer - big deal.

[Bear__Necessities]

Just now, rnat said:

Maybe amend it to "any CV it can meet in battle" ? But even with that I'd be very skeptical about the Parsevals ability to effectively deal with her (not that MvR does fantastically in that regard either).

Torps and rockets. Halland is fat enough the rockets arm and the torps fast enough to hit. In fact now they added torp spread RNG, more torps land as it's FAR harder to predict and evade. 

[Bear__Necessities]

1 minute ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Does it need to happen in a training room? And what would it proof? Training rooms have nothing to do with "reality". With training room I could prolly "proof" how OP any DD with torps is against a battleship. A BB could never win in any way unless the DD is a turd. Now does that proof DDs are super OP? hardly. And why is a "team helping you" concidered something bad or concidered to water down his efford? Dont people complain all the time about lack of teamwork and selffish play? People not shooting spotting targets? Now its looked down upon? I said id many times before and I say it again: Super unicum CVs kill the DD himself. The not that awesome CVs kill the DD by spotting. Where is the difference. DD is dead. In the few CV games ive played I sometimes resort to just hoover around the DD myself because im not that awesome in hitting them myself. Big surprise - DD dead soon. Those people would have prolly shot the DD themself even if I were to attack him myself. So I lost a few seconds, because the DD survived a little longer - big deal.

I'm not even going to bother engaging with it. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

 

Does it need to happen in a training room? And what would it proof? Training rooms have nothing to do with "reality". With training room I could prolly "proof" how OP any DD with torps is against a battleship. A BB could never win in any way unless the DD is a turd. Now does that proof DDs are super OP? hardly. And why is a "team helping you" concidered something bad or concidered to water down his efford? Dont people complain all the time about lack of teamwork and selffish play? People not shooting spotting targets? Now its looked down upon? I said id many times before and I say it again: Super unicum CVs kill the DD himself. The not that awesome CVs kill the DD by spotting. Where is the difference. DD is dead. In the few CV games ive played I sometimes resort to just hoover around the DD myself because im not that awesome in hitting them myself. Big surprise - DD dead soon. Those people would have prolly shot the DD themself even if I were to attack him myself. So I lost a few seconds, because the DD survived a little longer - big deal.

Don't give me that please. We bove know that if the team doesn't shoot the halland he tries to kill he will never kill it. 

Especially not if im that Halland. Training room makes it easy to prove that there is 0 chance for him to even do lethal damage to a Halland alone even if it's the only ship he needs to worry about. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, Bear__Necessities said:

I'm not even going to bother engaging with it. 

because last time we went into training room together you embarrassed yourself really badly. 

Better not let that happen again. 

[1MajorKoenig]

13 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

No, I eliminated him, and still stomped on their team. I fail to see how I was impeded from doing anything other than being utterly successful...

 

@El2aZeR help me out here, am I missing something? Coz they think I was somehow "stopped"? From what I don't know... 

haven’t looked at your specific example to be honest as I quite frankly don’t give a damn about the whining here.

 

it was more a general remark that 4min attention on a single DD is excessive. Of course it can make sense to focus on a single high value target in certain situations and in case that gives your team the advantage they need but usually you should rather aim to orchestrate firepower on a spotted enemy DD to finish him off quickly (and don’t lose all your planes chasing a single one). At the end time is a very important factor playing CVs and you generally should focus on what counts. 
 

 

[Bear__Necessities]

1 minute ago, Zuihou_Kai said:

because last time we went into training room together you embarrassed yourself really badly. 

Better not let that happen again. 

Sorry. I stopped listen to forum trolls like you. How silly, to engage with someone AFTER admitting you do it for fun. 

[rnat]

6 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

Torps and rockets. Halland is fat enough the rockets arm and the torps fast enough to hit. In fact now they added torp spread RNG, more torps land as it's FAR harder to predict and evade.  

Yes, but those are rather easy to massively mitigate damage from. Long enough for a Halland to mostly get rid of the relevant plane-type given the KMs mediocre health pool.

Add in a team that bothers shooting at the Halland (and able to do so) ofc changes that situation big time.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Just now, Bear__Necessities said:

Sorry. I stopped listen to forum trolls like you. How silly, to engage with someone AFTER admitting you do it for fun. 

You are being highly dishonest when saying "you can kill Halland in any CV". 

It's not you who kills it its your teammates who need to kill it for you. Forgot to mention that in your brag. Also killing potat hallands in randoms is hardly an achievement. 

 

Meanwhile I can just kek on your Halland in training room without a team. But I can understand why you would want to avoid this after all you aren't on that level yet. 

[Bear__Necessities]

Just now, Zuihou_Kai said:

You are being highly dishonest when saying "you can kill Halland in any CV". 

It's not you who kills it its your teammates who need to kill it for you. Forgot to mention that in your brag. Also killing potat hallands in randoms is hardly an achievement. 

 

Meanwhile I can just kek on your Halland in training room without a team. But I can understand why you would want to avoid this after all you aren't on that level yet. 

El handed you your arse when you tried it on him. So... your one on one means nothing. But like I said, you troll CV threads for fun. 

 

 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

2 minutes ago, Bear__Necessities said:

El handed you your arse when you tried it on him. So... your one on one means nothing. But like I said, you troll CV threads for fun. 

 

 

@El2aZeR and me never went into training room though so he didn't. 

 

Also just because I agree on CVs being OP doesn't mean that I'm wrong. And you are overestimating your skill. If it's not a problem to you to kill hallands why avoid me then?