General CV related discussions.

[Hades_warrior]

51 minutes ago, Nov_A said:

I dont see the problem?

 

It was probably a pretty long game, their DD was much better/more active than yours and the CV spent most of his time striking low HP targets while throwing his planes away, until he got caught and died a deplaned death. Implacable is basically the weakest - most balanced CV on T8. What are you trying to say? I even checked the player and he only has a medium glue sniffing habit.

Speaking of sniffing and glue, I can't say what I have to say without moderator to edit my post.

 

4 kills, and camping over me for like 10 minutes straight. One thing worse than a WC is WC that is camping over one single target. I noticed they love to camp over my massachusetts. Are they jealous on premium ship?

[BLUB__BLUB]

50 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

I noticed they love to camp over my massachusetts. Are they jealous on premium ship?

Maybe they run Match Maker Monitor and wanted to keep an eye on you?

This also happens to other players. When they have 'GitGud' they tend to get more focused. 

Not that it helps much, generally. 

[Hades_warrior]

14 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Maybe they run Match Maker Monitor and wanted to keep an eye on you?

What reason for them would be to monitoring me? Killing me so they cant lose any more of their precious planes?

[BLUB__BLUB]

Just now, Hades_warrior said:

What reason for them would be to monitoring me?

You don't know Match Maker Monitor? It is a mod that will show the WR (etc) of players that are on the reds. 

If you are a good player, that means they better keep an eye on you.  

It means they see this, and your name will show up in blue:

 

[Hades_warrior]

1 minute ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

You don't know Match Maker Monitor? It is a mod that will show the WR (etc) of players that are on the reds. 

If you are a good player, that means they better keep an eye on you.  

It means they see this, and your name will show up in blue:

 

Ah, that thing. I forgot about those colors.

Well how things stands in this game lately, My WR on Massa will drop a lot so there wont be anything blue on me.

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 minute ago, Hades_warrior said:

Ah, that thing. I forgot about those colors.

Well how things stands in this game lately, My WR on Massa will drop a lot so there wont be anything blue on me.

Wel the same might go for anyone else, and it will then still show you as "best player". Somehow I never have that problem 

I don't use it but some I div with do, I think it is always hilarious to hear them go off on a rant.

As in: "OH MAN the reds have 5 <30% players"... or "we have a division that has 60%WR... combined".... 

Sometimes it is funny too, like when on the reds a player has 25% WR and ARP Yamato. Do you think he'll get farmed??

 

[Hades_warrior]

45 minutes ago, BLUB__BLUB said:

Wel the same might go for anyone else, and it will then still show you as "best player". Somehow I never have that problem 

I don't use it but some I div with do, I think it is always hilarious to hear them go off on a rant.

As in: "OH MAN the reds have 5 <30% players"... or "we have a division that has 60%WR... combined".... 

Sometimes it is funny too, like when on the reds a player has 25% WR and ARP Yamato. Do you think he'll get farmed??

 

What problem?

nah, it will never show me as best player. Tho, lately are so many red players so, anything is possible. When others are so bad that you end up being good or best in team.

 

I never saw a Yamato with 25% WR. is that a fairytale?

But I did saw kaga B, flying around over my Massa without realizing he is losing them on me.

Today ALL of my battle were with WC, and one of them was double WC...

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, Hades_warrior said:

 

I never saw a Yamato with 25% WR. is that a fairytale?

You haven't been paying attention...

ARP Yamato....  35K Dubloons. 

 

 

[Prophecy82]

Thank you WG for this perfectly fine CV class! 

[BreizMor]

Why flak on boats can see planes in smoke?!

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

 

This is not realistic!

 

 

[159Hunter]

4 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why flak on boats can see planes in smoke?!

It doesn't. Your planes were probably spotted by another ship/plane.

4 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

Because WG nerfed all the so called AA cruisers into the ground.

The EU DDs are "AA DDs", not that they will stop a good CV from striking them. Heck, even I can do that and I'm only a mediocre CV player.

4 hours ago, _LazR said:

This is not realistic!

But torpedo planes healing themselves in mid flight is realistic? Pro tip: this is an arcade game: don't use the realism argument.

[ForlornSailor]

5 minutes ago, 159Hunter said:

It doesn't. Your planes were probably spotted by another ship/plane.

Because WG nerfed all the so called AA cruisers into the ground.

The EU DDs are "AA DDs", not that they will stop a good CV from striking them. Heck, even I can do that and I'm only a mediocre CV player.

But torpedo planes healing themselves in mid flight is realistic? Pro tip: this is an arcade game: don't use the realism argument.

 

Im amazed how calm you manage to reply to this guy. Did you check him out? Enterprise main complaining about beeing deplaned. Enterprise - main - complaining. @El2aZeR needs to see this, just in case you miss it.

Im sitting here, holding my morning coffee (which actually starts boiling again in my hand while reading that dudes... input) trying to find a reply which does not net me another forum warning - I cant, I give up.

I just need to know how much money I have to pay Wargaming so that they give me access to their database for 24 hours and let me perma delete players accounts. Going to be the busiest day in my life.

[El2aZeR]

8 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

 

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

11 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

Good quality post. Buff cruiser AA! Give me some Hindy, Des Moines love.

[Prophecy82]

11 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why flak on boats can see planes in smoke?!

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

 

This is not realistic!

 

 

 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

11 hours ago, _LazR said:

Why flak on boats can see planes in smoke?!

Why DD from europe T9 and T10 can destroy ALL planes more quickly than cruisers, i'm using T8 CV?!

 

This is not realistic!

 

 

I made you a desktop background :D

 

[CptBarney]

@Europizza you shot down smeggy planu.

 

[Maris_Piper]

Spotted this on the German Forum, Some interesting thoughts 

 

 

[Asashio_Kai_Nii]

4 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

cute

[DeviousDave02]

45 minutes ago, Maris_Piper said:

Spotted this on the German Forum, Some interesting thoughts 

 

 

 

This.

 

150% This.

 

Every company I know of who ran a niche game and then dropped the core player base via poorly thought out updates and gameplay changes in an effort to chase casual, mainstream players has done hilariously badly. 

 

Usually it goes:

-Company makes a hated change.

-Veterans complain.

-Company ignores them.

-Makes more bizarre changes.

-Veterans get even more upset.

-Veterans stop buying things, playing, forming clans etc.

-Quality of matches goes downhill due to the uneven tilt between older, knowledgeable players and FNG's (Fragging New Guys) as Vets begin to leave or play less.

-Snowball effect, games become worse due to lack of good players which makes more good players quit as they get fed up.

-Without the Vet population to hammer out bad habits from rising new players the meta shifts in bizarre ways leading to stale gameplay or at the very least games where the knowledgeable players can DOMINATE the match via skillful gameplay (and still lose due to FNG's screwing up with bad habits learned at lower levels)

-Loss of trust between Vets and Company, Vets blame company for poorer games and declining service while the company either ignores the Vets outright with moderators on fire fighting duty to contain the upset (aka. this containment thread for the CV radioactive fallout) or actively blame the vets for scaring off the money whales new players (yes this actually happened on another game forum) by being better than them and knowing how to play.

-Short term FNG casual players lose interest due to niche mechanics/gameplay, lack of game modes, slow development etc. and move on to the next shiny thing.

-Competitive scene falls apart. No active clans left and trying to organize a tournament or ranked battle season becomes impossible.  

-Company panics and starts throwing random stuff at wall in an attempt to pull back the players.

-Potentially start actually fixing things the Vets complained about and try to pull back core audience but by this point it's too little too late. Most vets have moved on to other games.

-Lack of steady income forces game to be abandoned due to financial instability.

-Die hard fans and late comers to the party haunt the forums on STEAM to reminisce over the games glory days and query why it failed.

 

Not saying WoWS is quite at that level... yet... but the precedence is there for this sort of thing and echoes some of the happening in WoWS to a worrying degree.

 

That and Carriers really need counters introducing or more mechanics to make it harder to play them well (while also being rewarding when you do play them well.)

 

 

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

What is this? 27k damage on a Hindenburg by rockets? 
I am too good for this... How am I supposed to make others win?

[159Hunter]

11 hours ago, ForlornSailor said:

Im amazed how calm you manage to reply to this guy. Did you check him out?

I did, and he's a prime example that shows how OP that ship is.

That being said, he only has 90 posts on the forums and he's not really a good player. So maybe he really didn't know this. In that case: I still wanna help.

Don't expect me to respond as nicely when one of our resident CV apologists makes a post about weak CVs.

5 hours ago, LemonadeWarriorITA said:

 Good quality post. Buff cruiser AA! Give me some Hindy, Des Moines love.

Nice try, but I'm sure you misinterpreted his post 

[topopski]

Still world of completely dominating CVs then? Ah well not worth coming back, bit of a shame as I used to love this game but hey ho off to other games we go 

[MacFergus]

As per normal the talk is about high tier CV play.

 

I have been mainly playing Tier 6 CVs as i grind out 2 lines and i have found them fine they are not op i cant speak for tier 10 CVs as of yet but the main problem I see here are disgruntled DD players who are no longer the big fish in the pond so to speak for years they have tormented BB players with their invisible torping while laughing about WASD keys and how bad BB players are and yet in a game yesterday i completely demolished x2 DDs just sailing in a straight line with rockets not once did they try and avoid my attacks it seems when the shoe is on the other foot DD players also do not use the WASD keys one of them was a Kami which was quite gratifying.

 

AA seems fine at mid tiers i still lose a lot of planes to players with brains who push together on a flank and if they use WASD its not guaranteed ill get a hit in , Some games i can maybe squeeze 40k damage others 70k+ it depends on the quality of the opposition.

 

If anything CVs are encouraging teams to push forward together as collective AA at mid tiers works like a dream.

 

In my opinion. 

 

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

1 hour ago, MacFergus said:

completely demolished x2 DDs just sailing in a straight line with rockets not once did they try and avoid my attacks

The problem here is the spotting. If they swerve from your rockets, your team will make them into piñatas.

The same thing for other ships. It is not the CV-attack that is the largest problem.

You get no points for spotting. I think that it should be largely removed.