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European Destroyers: Early Access

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On 3/12/2020 at 10:32 PM, Andrejevic_ said:

Excuse me.

Where are European destroyers from the Mediterranean, like Yugoslav (Dubrovnik, Beograd, Split (1939) and R11 Split), Romanian (Regele Ferdinand and Mărăști) , Greek (Vasilefs Georgios and Kountouriotis) and Spanish (Churruca and Oquendo)???

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And there are many more, Andrejevic. Thanx for giving more information about the Mediterranean and Black Sea states!

 

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(Holland class, much like Friesland class)

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(HrMs Evertsen, Admiralen class, 8 ships)

 

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(HrMs Isaac Sweers, Callenburg class, 4 ships.)

 

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HrMs Tjerk Hiddes and HrMs van Galen, both N-class destroyers in game as TNI Gadja Madah.

 

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HrMs Banckert (Ex-HMS Quilliam)

 

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HrMs Evertsen, (ex-HMS Scouge ) Kortenaer and Piet Heyn (S-class destroyers)

 

Now the argument given ('then it would consist only dutch warships') is really a non-argument.

That would really ignite the question about the swedish dominance in one complete line called 'european'

 

Where is the swedish cuiser Tre Kornor (see picture below)?

 

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And where are the cuisers of the other nations? Aparently it prevails to have fantasy ships in the national interest of certain countries for 'patriotic reasons'.

Wich is actually a pretty nationalistic statement.

I had another word in mind, but will not use it as it is just just a little bit more abusive as 'patriotic', but has a little more historical load, even if it means the same.

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Spanish cruiser Canarias

 

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Spanish Heavy cruiser project

 

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Almirante Cervera

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Project 1047 (Netherlands)

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Cruiser HNLMS De Zeven Provincien (Netherlands). Rear guns later replaced by Terrier missile system.

 

Who ever has pictures of cruisers of other european navies, just place them. Let wargaming know they must do their homework!

 

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HNLMS De Ruyter (Netherlands)

 

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Be careful what you wish for, They can be excellent ships but like when WG got hold of a lot of Royal Navy ships they end up like neutered  Tom Cats :Smile_sad:

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Personally speaking European Line could be one of easiest to combine. It's possible even full BB tree ( with napkin projects on VIII-X but it's still nothing suprising ), full cruiser line with problems with IX-X and whole bunch of premiums like De Ruyter I, Tre Kronor, Dragon and Project 1047 as last of non introduced Large Cruisers project in WoWs. Tree of DD's with full Scandinavian, Polish, Dutch, Spanish and Balkan lines with many premiums and problems maybe only on TIX-TX on some of the lines.

 

If we talking about Scandinavian tree where are Norvegian destroyers from British S-class? They were rather famous with Stord participating in Battle of North Cape then Svenner fought during Normandy Landing where she was sunk. Ok, I can understand that later tier common gimmmick are 120mm Boforses and other Scandinavian destroyers are small torpedo boats not too much capable to be included in WoWs but they are for sure interesting warships, at least Orkan is nice addition although I hope it's sign for Polish destroyers line. Here I bet that Estonian destroyer Vambola will be included in her last variant in Latin American line. 

 

It looks like we must wait a little for more European lines, European cruiser are most awaited by me.

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This is the worst launch event yet.. 

I'd rather have the missions dropping from crates back. Not talking about the 2mil Premium (although we should), or that we have to buy the ships forcibly from 5 to 6 to... now.. But just the Token droprates in the crates. 

In my clan the guy getting the most in his first 4 crates got 340 tokens wich I will admit is nice for the first directive. But most of us was faaar short of the 200 wich was needed just for the Visby, and with the amount of Visby's seen today I would guess that most people was no where near getting it with only the first Directive. 

Tonight I was playing in Division with a couple of friends, first one got the 5 boxes from directive 2 opened them and he got 110 tokens total then he went to see how them Dubloon containers looked, bought 2 and ended up on 190 Tokens and out of Dubloons...  He got so annoyed he logged of. =( 

I just got my 5 crates, jokingly to those of my clan on I predicted I'd get around 150-170 tokens so I had to go buy 3-4 boxes  for dubloons to get close to the next one. For once I pressed open all 5 at once, and was finding myself staring at the result almost speachless, 'cause there where 90 Tokens...   

I know it's RNG and all that, but seeing what I've seen in these 2 directives and a couple of loose containers, and the Dubloon containers I can only say that this stinks, this stinks of Wargreedy again. 

These events used to be fun, lighthearted, and I will admit I used to buy some containers in the shop. I've been called a Lucky bastard a couple of times because I got 2 of the ships in 5 containers, wich I thought was pretty good. 

but the last couple of launches have just been worse and worse, seems it's gone more n' more Wargreedy and Puerto Rico like.  =( I do not like it, I dont mind handing some western currency to a russian company, but when the line for robbery is getting further and further away in the rearview mirror I dont like it that much. =( 

 

 

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Not sure if someone's mentioned it so far, but regarding the permacamo missions for the Swedish European destroyers:

 

Apparently I can earn the 7500BXP to unlock the one for Frisbee in Random, Co-op, Ranked and Scenario battles; same for the T6-9s. As much as I would love to do so, WG, how exactly am I supposed to play Scenario battles in any of them other than the T6 (or Ranked in any of them at all for that matter)?

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I think its great that WG designs events around features that punishes players that are unlycky (and open few tokens) and reward players that are lucky (and open lots of tokens). Who wants a FAIR event? Stupid unlucky players should get less rewards for same, or even more effort in a game. That is just good game design. Yes. No one wants a game company that design FAIR events. I mean, one might think it evens out in the long run. But it doesnt, since its only a short duration. 

 

Thanks for the very unfair event. Its the same with many other features in the game, so obviously you know what is fun for the player base. 

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Yes, this is very unfair event. I collected all daily shipments, completed directives 2 and 3 and still missing 30 European tokens for shitty tier VI Vasteras! Thank you very much, I do not care about any of your further events anymore.

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8 minutes ago, VladDik said:

I collected all daily shipments, completed directives 2 and 3

so 4+5+6+3 = 18 containers. With an average drop of 25 token/container you should end up with 450 token. 30 tokens missing for the tier 6 means that you got 570 tokens from containers, so much more than those average 450...

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5 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

so 4+5+6+3 = 18 containers. With an average drop of 25 token/container you should end up with 450 token. 30 tokens missing for the tier 6 means that you got 570 tokens from containers, so much more than those average 450...

After taking Visby I got just 370 tokens in total, did not spend for anything else. Vasteras can be exchanged for 400. Looking like I have to finish directive 4 to finally get it.

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