BB HE is to powerful.

[ClappingLollies]

Now, i know what you are going to say. Blablabla. BB's are underpowered ?

But the HE that BB's sling is broken. Not only do some of them do more than AP dmg but certanly these days with all the CV's they are broken. 1 HE salvo from a Conq or Thunderer and all your AA is gone. Even those speshul Yamatos that sling HE wreck ur AA.

You are a T3 ship at that point. Its dumb. Bad gameplay WG. If you are going to have CV's as strong as they are now, you cannot have BB's slinging HE around and stripping off all AA.

And please for the love of god STOP doing these HE missions for BB's. ITS NOT HELPING THE GAMEPLAY!!!!! 

 

Keep in mind that i play alot of CV's myself and i think this is stupid WG... Pls fix. 

Cheers

[ForlornSailor]

3 minutes ago, MortenTardo said:

And please for the love of god STOP doing these HE missions for BB's. ITS NOT HELPING THE GAMEPLAY!!!!! 

 

I have no idea what you are talking about

 

 

Spoiler

Enemy team lost, almost record time

 

[DFens_666]

They are only happen when we are all eating glue through a sippy cup

 

Ofc totaly agree, but what are the chances of WG listening? Can we go below 0%?

[KillStealBoss]

I agree on one thing - fire missions on BBs. Cause some people don’t play RN BBs and then you see HE Amagi firing on Mogami. I ask him why and replied “fire mission on BBs sorry” 

[DFens_666]

20 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

I agree on one thing - fire missions on BBs. Cause some people don’t play RN BBs and then you see HE Amagi firing on Mogami. I ask him why and replied “fire mission on BBs sorry” 

 

For me that sounds more like work than actually playing a game:

Someone is telling you what to do, and you do it -> work

[Naval_Hurricane]

23 minuty temu, DFens_666 napisał:

 

For me that sounds more like work than actually playing a game:

Someone is telling you what to do, and you do it -> work

Even worse. Like slaves. 

[Afghanicus]

I would rename this thread to "AA is too weak" as that's the main issue.

 

OP CVs and terrible AA on most ships which are too vulnerable to any shells and are usually the first ones to go away.

[Naval_Hurricane]

2 minuty temu, Palubarac napisał:

I would rename this thread to "AA is too weak" as that's the main issue.

 

OP CVs and terrible AA on most ships which are too vulnerable to any shells and are usually the first ones to go away.

Omg no pls. Don't put CV in every thread!! Not about you personally but generally. 

[HaachamaShipping]

46 minutes ago, MortenTardo said:

Now, i know what you are going to say. Blablabla. BB's are underpowered ?

But the HE that BB's sling is broken. Not only do some of them do more than AP dmg but certanly these days with all the CV's they are broken. 1 HE salvo from a Conq or Thunderer and all your AA is gone. Even those speshul Yamatos that sling HE wreck ur AA.

You are a T3 ship at that point. Its dumb. Bad gameplay WG. If you are going to have CV's as strong as they are now, you cannot have BB's slinging HE around and stripping off all AA.

And please for the love of god STOP doing these HE missions for BB's. ITS NOT HELPING THE GAMEPLAY!!!!! 

 

Keep in mind that i play alot of CV's myself and i think this is stupid WG... Pls fix. 

Cheers

Implying the AA is the main concern. Small mounts are shooting aircraft, but even on a Thunderer with defAA on, it won't ever save the ship, while the large mounts survive usually and speshul CV can still kill themselves on the flak.

 

What is broken though, is that a Conq or Thunderer (or their lower tier brethren) can just shoot HE at ships and pretty much not just do massive alpha, but set the ship ablaze and wreck half your modules if you aren't a BB. Get hit by some 457 mm HE shells in a DD? Better kiss half your armaments goodbye. And then we haven't yet touched on the fact that at these calibers with 1/4 pen, it can citadel cruisers.

 

Keep in mind, I play alot of Thunderer myself and I think this is stupid. My British BB shouldn't do the job of my Yoshino better than my Yoshino does it, while being almost as stealthy, better armoured and having a better repair party. No joke, I got my 60 fires in Thunderer way easier than my 60 fires in cruisers.

 

And Conq just having crap accuracy in comparison to the other T10s shouldn't be the balance factor, because it just encourages this kind of HE fiesta, but hey, people told WG the same crap when RN BBs got introduced (and AA mounts mattered more), you think WG will listen? It's nice to see though that inmidst the whole "Reeeee some cruiser is shooting HE at me and might actually pen my armour while doing so. Pls nerf" people actually notice how one class has HE dpm akin to cruisers, with fire chance that is stupid high (not like you can burn in more than 3-4 places) and the HE pen and blast radius to leave ships absolutely crippled. What, some Smolensk fondled my superstructure a bit? Well, guess it's time to take out half its hp with HE citpens and kill enough turrets to make it a Grozovoi again.

[Afghanicus]

1 minute ago, Naval_Hurricane said:

Omg no pls. Don't put CV in every thread!! Not about you personally but generally. 

So what's your conclusion and opinion on the post?

 

Or you didn't even read it but got butt-hurt when CV got mentioned?

 

He talks about AA and how easy it is to know it down making the ships even more useless to CVs.

 

Did I miss something? Enlighten me.

[Naval_Hurricane]

2 minuty temu, Palubarac napisał:

So what's your conclusion and opinion on the post?

 

Or you didn't even read it but got butt-hurt when CV got mentioned?

 

He talks about AA and how easy it is to know it down making the ships even more useless to CVs.

 

Did I miss something? Enlighten me.

He was talking about HE on BBs, and you wanna rename the thread into CV topic... He doesn't say AA is useless or CV is OP here, just BB HE wipes out AA. 

[Afghanicus]

2 minutes ago, Naval_Hurricane said:

He was talking about HE on BBs, and you wanna rename the thread into CV topic... He doesn't say AA is useless or CV is OP here, just BB HE wipes out AA. 

And what is AA used for?

 

Why is a problem having most of the AA completely destroyed in the first half of the battle?

 

Yeah, exactly.

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, Palubarac said:

And what is AA used for?

 

Why is a problem having most of the AA completely destroyed in the first half of the battle?

 

Yeah, exactly.

If AA mattered, you might have a point. Yet it doesn't, so no.

[ClappingLollies]

1 minute ago, Palubarac said:

And what is AA used for?

 

Why is a problem having most of the AA completely destroyed in the first half of the battle?

 

Yeah, exactly.

Shooting down planes?? 

[ClappingLollies]

Just now, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

If AA mattered, you might have a point. Yet it doesn't, so no.

That is the ting. A slight buff to some AA and giving rocket planes a 5 min delay and CV's would be just fine! Man i should be a dev!!!!

 

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, MortenTardo said:

That is the ting. A slight buff to some AA and giving rocket planes a 5 min delay and CV's would be just fine! Man i should be a dev!!!!

 

That is a different thing than what your original post adressed, but sure.

[Naval_Hurricane]

6 minut temu, Palubarac napisał:

And what is AA used for?

 

Why is a problem having most of the AA completely destroyed in the first half of the battle?

 

Yeah, exactly.

Not because of CV the AA is destroyed. 

Not the AA is too weak aka "not working well" 

You could say "the hp of AA guns/mounts is too weak". 

[ClappingLollies]

1 minute ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

That is a different thing than what your original post adressed, but sure.

Since we derailed. 

[Afghanicus]

3 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

If AA mattered, you might have a point. Yet it doesn't, so no.

I know AA sucks nowadays and 'defensive AA' is the most worthless consumable that exists... but it's still the one and only thing you have against CVs, don't you?

 

So yes, it matters a lot. Until WG decides to fix the terrible AA which sucks even at 100% and that percentage goes down quite fast so it's even more useless.

[Naval_Hurricane]

Przed chwilą, Palubarac napisał:

I know AA sucks nowadays and 'defensive AA' is the most worthless consumable that exists... but it's still the one and only thing you have against CVs, don't you?

 

So yes, it matters a lot. Until WG decides to fix the terrible AA which sucks even at 100% and that percentage goes down quite fast so it's even more useless.

You see ... You made this thread another CV rant one. 

Reee. 

 

[anonym_mlJIAFnOwMVb]

potatoes are too powerful. please balance them evenly on both teams rather than one team. This game is suffering from WoT MM 

[Afghanicus]

1 minute ago, Naval_Hurricane said:

You see ... You made this thread another CV rant one. 

Reee. 

 

Oh did I?

 

So what was it? BBs' HE is too powerful because it knocks down the AA mounts?

 

Yeah, nothing to do with CVs at all.

 

Let's nerf BBs' HE instead of improving the survivability of the AA mounts.

 

Yeah, makes sense.

 

I'll leave you to it then, have a good night.

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, Palubarac said:

I know AA sucks nowadays and 'defensive AA' is the most worthless consumable that exists... but it's still the one and only thing you have against CVs, don't you?

 

So yes, it matters a lot. Until WG decides to fix the terrible AA which sucks even at 100% and that percentage goes down quite fast so it's even more useless.

It's also the one thing I give the least f***s about losing as a consequence. If BB HE would just strip the AA off my ship, yes, it'd be annoying, but well, could be worse. But when you get absolutely demolished by an HE salvo or when you can basically burn enemy BBs to the ground from across the map, because of the insane values, that's another thing, or when you lose half your armaments along with your hp. You know, the stuff that actually DOES kill things and help you get your job done.

[Naval_Hurricane]

1 minutę temu, Palubarac napisał:

Oh did I?

 

So what was it? BBs' HE is too powerful because it knocks down the AA mounts?

 

Yeah, nothing to do with CVs at all.

 

Let's nerf BBs' HE instead of improving the survivability of the AA mounts.

 

Yeah, makes sense.

 

I'll leave you to it then, have a good night.

Let it be more hp for AA mounts. I think they should do it. But I'm saying that you want to drag this thread into CV rant one and then comes the mighty Excavatus to close it. So please stop. 

[Afghanicus]

1 minute ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

It's also the one thing I give the least f***s about losing as a consequence. If BB HE would just strip the AA off my ship, yes, it'd be annoying, but well, could be worse. But when you get absolutely demolished by an HE salvo or when you can basically burn enemy BBs to the ground from across the map, because of the insane values, that's another thing, or when you lose half your armaments along with your hp. You know, the stuff that actually DOES kill things and help you get your job done.

Are you sure you're talking about BBs only here? Because... you know... CL HE spammers shoot A LOT more HE burning down everything in the process.

 

And we have a thread for that...

 

 

But this thread was focused on BB's HE knocking down AA mounts making the AA even more useless than it actually is.

 

Again, it's pretty clear to me but we might be on different wavelengths or typing from different parallel universes.