Captain Cunningham Worth 1000 RN tokens AND 1000 Doubloons?

[Sir_Sinksalot]

Hi guys,

 

I bagged that London cruiser yesterday. However, I think I'm going to be a little bit short of the required tokens to get this captain. If that turns out to be the case, and most likely it will be, there's currently an option in the armory to purchase I think, 40 RN tokens which would be more than enough to then get this captain.

 

Thing is though, 1000 gold seems pretty expensive and lets not forget, it's not 1000 gold to purchase the captain, it's 1000 just for a few tokens which would only put me in a position to purchase the captain... so it's actually 1000 gold PLUS 1000 RN tokens. I don't know, to me that seems like a kick in the balls and really bad value tbh.

 

What do you guys think? Is this a bad deal or is Captain Birdseye's skill benefits REALLY that much of a gain worth bothering with? Or does it boil down to what tiers you play the most and how serious you play this game etc?

[Jethro_Grey]

Look at it this way: on the one Hand 1k Dubs to get him. On the other Hand, 175k coal to get him later in the armory. 

175k coal equals 110 days of playing every day to get the 1.6k coal (Minimum value) from the daily missions and all three crates.

 

Which equals round About 2-3 Hours of Play time in coop, as you Need wins to Progress those dailys.

 

Alternatively, you might be able to buy premium crates which can contain coal one Special Events, but those cost more then 1k Dubs and there isn't even a guarantee that coal is in the crate.

 

 

You see where this is going?

While 1k Dubs is expensive, considering the grind you've put in to get the Tokens, it's still cheaper then the alternatives by lightyears.  

[TheBrut3]

32 minutes ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

it's not 1000 gold to purchase the captain

In your case it is.

Spend 1000 gold = commander

Don't spend 1000 gold = no commander

 

Imo he's worth 1k dubs for BB, DD, CV or CA line.

 

And I can't see inside your wallet, but 1k dubs is just €3.30.

[Afghanicus]

In short... if you plan on getting him... I believe 1000 doubloons is better than 175k coal.

 

Of course, this depends on how many coal you have lying around but generally it's better to give 1000 doubloons and get him now than wait for him to appear in the armory and pay the insane price of 175k coal.

[Kenjiro_]

He definitely doesn't worth 175k coal. As for 1000 doubloons, it's up to you to decide

[Cambera_1]

Agree. But only if you were planning to get him eventually, if not then... 

 

As a Unique Commander, Cunningham is not difficult to activate his special abilities so that's a plus. 

Bonus skill wise, he will sit comfortably on any RN line that might need to boost reload of consumables or on a RN CV, so anywhere with a reasonable tier. 

So while skill wise he isn't as good as the Dunkirk Brothers, they're not much good on a CV nor do they have any Special Ability. 

 

The choice is yours, but to say that if I were in your position of needing a handful of tokens, I would be shelling out the dubloons but waiting until I had earned all the tokens that I could.

But that is me.

[bigdoguk]

How do you buy him for dubs?.

[Afghanicus]

11 minutes ago, bigdoguk said:

How do you buy him for dubs?.

Read his post carefully.

 

He is close to the 1000 tokens but missing some and in order to get them, he needs to purchase one bundle which contains 40 tokens, enough for him to get Cunningham.

[Jethro_Grey]

17 minutes ago, bigdoguk said:

How do you buy him for dubs?.

The bundle in the part of the armory where ABC is availabel, has "random bundles" which contain 40 Tokens per 1k Dubloons. 

 

 

EDIT: OHFFS, i hate this Notebook. For some reason it has some Kind of "intergrated autocorrect" which annoys the frak outta me. 

Anyone knows how to disable that crap on a HP NB? 

[JapLance]

I already have the tokens to get Cunningham, but I'm hesitating whether to grab it or exchange the tokens for doubloons. Cunningham is not that great as a commander for my ships. I never pick JOAT, and my only ship that could benefit from the special abilities is Conqueror, which I hardly play and already has a 19-point commander (Actually I consider him a commander for my Premium UK BBs: Warspite ,Hood, DoY and Nelson).

 

And it's also just 10 points. You'll need some time or a lot of Elite Commander XP to fully benefit from it.

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

17 minutes ago, JapLance said:

I already have the tokens to get Cunningham, but I'm hesitating whether to grab it or exchange the tokens for doubloons. Cunningham is not that great as a commander for my ships. I never pick JOAT, and my only ship that could benefit from the special abilities is Conqueror, which I hardly play and already has a 19-point commander (Actually I consider him a commander for my Premium UK BBs: Warspite ,Hood, DoY and Nelson).

 

And it's also just 10 points. You'll need some time or a lot of Elite Commander XP to fully benefit from it.

Hes a pretty good- better than for BBs- fit for DDs or for the new cruiser branch. 
While JoaT is a skill i don't use that much, this upgraded version can be seen as JoaT and High alert combined- but even better then. 
IMO its pretty useful for cruisers due to strongly reduced reload, especially on the light cruisers due to smoke. Same for DDs. 

Not good for CVs, short for the 1.5%/ aircraft armour bonus. 

I'm considering either DD or second cruiser line myself, as i already have Dunkirk on the Minotaur

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

2 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

Hi guys,

 

I bagged that London cruiser yesterday. However, I think I'm going to be a little bit short of the required tokens to get this captain. If that turns out to be the case, and most likely it will be, there's currently an option in the armory to purchase I think, 40 RN tokens which would be more than enough to then get this captain.

 

Thing is though, 1000 gold seems pretty expensive and lets not forget, it's not 1000 gold to purchase the captain, it's 1000 just for a few tokens which would only put me in a position to purchase the captain... so it's actually 1000 gold PLUS 1000 RN tokens. I don't know, to me that seems like a kick in the balls and really bad value tbh.

 

What do you guys think? Is this a bad deal or is Captain Birdseye's skill benefits REALLY that much of a gain worth bothering with? Or does it boil down to what tiers you play the most and how serious you play this game etc?

I would say that if you own Conqueror and/or Thunderer or both and like to play both he is definatly worth it since he is pretty powerful on that ship if you know how to play them. If that is not the case I would probably not bother. I got him and he will be cap on both my T10 BBs.

[Jethro_Grey]

1 hour ago, JapLance said:

I already have the tokens to get Cunningham, but I'm hesitating whether to grab it or exchange the tokens for doubloons. Cunningham is not that great as a commander for my ships. I never pick JOAT, and my only ship that could benefit from the special abilities is Conqueror, which I hardly play and already has a 19-point commander (Actually I consider him a commander for my Premium UK BBs: Warspite ,Hood, DoY and Nelson).

 

And it's also just 10 points. You'll need some time or a lot of Elite Commander XP to fully benefit from it.

Well, this make it Sound like it would be a perfect fit for Conqueror. 

 

You don't Play Conq that often, so no Need to use a lot of FXP on him Right now. 

You free up one 19 Point captain, which you can use on a ship you Play more often. 

 

Once you accumulate enough ECXP, you can use a few to increase him by one skill Point. 

Once you reach 14 Points, you can take him out in randoms, in any of the BBs you mentioned. 

 

The amount of Dubloons you can get with the Tokens is barely enough to buy a Perma camo.

Not enough to convert FXP, you get a max of two or three resets off (with a 19pointer). 

 

My advice is, get ABC instead of Dubloons. Your priorities may vary. 

[TheBrut3]

16 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Once you reach 14 Points, you can take him out in randoms

Why 14? 6 points is enough for a Conq, just gotta stay a little more in the back since you don't have CE and FP yet.

[Jethro_Grey]

9 minutes ago, TheBrut3 said:

Why 14? 6 points is enough for a Conq, just gotta stay a little more in the back since you don't have CE and FP yet.

CE and FP. 

I don't like to camp, not even in the Conq. (granted, in early stages of the game, yes, but steadily closing in, because AP is more useful at mid to close ranges) 

[Captain_Newman]

If you really want him for either Conq/Thunderer or Ark Royal/Audacious because you play them a lot, then yes, I suppose it's worth it, better drop 1k doubloons now than 175k coal later. I will say, though, that I don't see this commander as a must have, not like Kuznetsov - so if I couldn't have grinded it for free, I wouldn't have acquired him at all (I did get him a few days ago, having the albemarle on day 1 when the line fully released helped a lot).

[Procrastes]

When does the time to complete the Royal Navy tokens Directive end? I'm starting to doubt if I'll have enough time on hand for the next two weeks.

 

Edited: Thanks a bunch, Captain @Palubarac, for your very picturesque response in post#18 below! The answer, of course, was right in front of me the whole time!

[Afghanicus]

8 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

When does the time to complete the Royal Navy tokens Directive end? I'm starting to doubt if I'll have enough time on hand for the next two weeks.

[novents]

Imo Cunningham is not worth 175k coal or 1k dubs, but it’s a personal decision as others have pointed out. He’s a gud captain, and a historical figure (which I like) but if you didn’t get him - no big deal. 

 

I missed quite a few days of daily missions and I was still able to complete the marathon (which luckily counsided with ranked, as I’ve one played 1 random match in the last 7 days). You get 500 or 550 tokens from 4 directives. Plus some from daily drops so ~600 total? Plus you had up to 30 tokens available each day (10 for albemarle win, 20 for completing the daily xp missions). It was still grindy but not as bad as the Benham marathon for example, where if you missed 2 days you were out. 

[viceadmiral123]

Not worth 1000 doubloons or 175k coal. I would spend the tokens the other items.

[DirtyHeddy]

He is not bad though, but I consider him not a big deal. There will be other commanders for less, and in many cases for ressources You want to get rid of ...

[Sir_Sinksalot]

8 hours ago, Palubarac said:

 

Just to clarify, this event ends on the 12th of the this month and so we will be able to bag RN tokens daily until this date? If so that's a game changer 958 RN tokens so should comfortably be able to hit 1000 RN tokens without needing to spend any doubloons?

[Afghanicus]

15 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

 

Just to clarify, this event ends on the 12th of the this month and so we will be able to bag RN tokens daily until this date? If so that's a game changer 958 RN tokens so should comfortably be able to hit 1000 RN tokens without needing to spend any doubloons?

It's not so simple, as it's always the case with WG.

 

If I'm not mistaken dates are different for each segment of the event.

 

For example...

 

The 'daily shipments' have finished already. The ones who collected all of them got 50 tokens, the rest is too late for that

The 'daily missions' rewarding Royal tokens will end on March 8th. After that no more Royal tokens will be obtained via the daily missions

The 'directives' can be completed before March 10th (in reality by the end of March 9th) so if you don't manage to finish them by that date, you'll miss the 150 tokens as the reward as well as the main prize - 'London'

The 'daily victory missions with London/Albemarle/Cheshire' rewarding 10 points per daily win (once per day) can be obtained until the end of the event which is March 12th (in reality by the end of March 11th)

 

If someone manages to decode all this mess WG always puts us through... can feel free to correct me.

 

Otherwise, you're welcome. Unless you need some help with calculations but I can already tell you that if you finish all daily missions and daily wins with RN CAs, you'll be able to get the 1,000 tokens and get the ABC.

[Duecut]

21 minutes ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

 

Just to clarify, this event ends on the 12th of the this month and so we will be able to bag RN tokens daily until this date? If so that's a game changer 958 RN tokens so should comfortably be able to hit 1000 RN tokens without needing to spend any doubloons?

Yes and no,

 

Yes, the London (heart of something or other) event that gives you 120 tokens last until the 11/3/2020 (it basically cuts off at 0:01 in the morning of the 12/03/2020, so you cant count the 12th as a day to get more tokens)

 

And No, the daily tokens (which can give you 20 tokens) stop at midnight on the 9th March (with the same cut off time 00:01 on the 10th), as can be seen from the Hall of fame (below)

 

 

 

 

 

[Afghanicus]

5 minutes ago, Duecut said:

Yes and no,

 

Yes, the London (heart of something or other) event that gives you 120 tokens last until the 11/3/2020 (it basically cuts off at 0:01 in the morning of the 12/03/2020, so you cant count the 12th as a day to get more tokens)

 

And No, the daily tokens (which can give you 20 tokens) stop at midnight on the 9th March (with the same cut off time 00:01 on the 10th), as can be seen from the Hall of fame (below)

 

 

 

 

 

I believe it's called "Heart of Oak" even though I'm not 100% sure (too lazy to open the game as I'm done for today).

 

But I think you're wrong with your dates. Please check mine and their official article and let me know who is mistaken...

 

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/british-cruisers-london/