Fonfalks Players 539 posts 11,322 battles Report post #1 Posted February 27, 2020 Some questions to WG about ranked 1)Why have you yet not banned CVs from ranked 2)When will you ban CVs from ranked 3)Are you aware of HUGE quantity of one sided games in ranked like 1 - 7, 7-1 or even 7-0 0-7? 4)What is in your opinion causing these games and what will you do fix MM so that games can be more competitive? 5)When and how will you address Smolensk? P.s. what is the point in your in game polls if you again and again spit on wast majority of player base and do nothing about Cvs, Smolensks etc? 14 4 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PAID] novents Players 296 posts 9,506 battles Report post #2 Posted February 27, 2020 ooof... that's some hard hitting questions Someone at WG office right now - 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #3 Posted February 27, 2020 The topics are getting better and better :D Cant wait for the weekend to start 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #4 Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Europizza said: The topics are getting better and better :D Cant wait for the weekend to start What? Wait!! The weekend hasn't started....?? Somebody opened the weekend box way too early then..... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #5 Posted February 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Fonfalks said: Some questions to WG about ranked 1)Why have you yet not banned CVs from ranked 2)When will you ban CVs from ranked 3)Are you aware of HUGE quantity of one sided games in ranked like 1 - 7, 7-1 or even 7-0 0-7? 4)What is in your opinion causing these games and what will you do fix MM so that games can be more competitive? 5)When and how will you address Smolensk? P.s. what is the point in your in game polls if you again and again spit on wast majority of player base and do nothing about Cvs, Smolensks etc? IDK if you remember but a few months back one of the executives at WG (not sure who, might have been S_O or someone else) when asked about Ranked MM, stars etc stated something in the line of "yes we know this is a mess, we are looking into it and are preparing something different for the next season" well now we are at the next season and nothing is different, Arms Race we had before, retar are still making sure you see saw for ages, irrevocable ranks are still the same, prizes are still the same, cvs are still here... We are all at fault really, us players, they keep serving us that same every season and we keep swallowing it every season, we play and play in that shshow instead of boycotting it, saint spreadsheet says we play it and hence its all good, no need for change... 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #6 Posted February 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Yedwy said: IDK if you remember but a few months back one of the executives at WG (not sure who, might have been S_O or someone else) when asked about Ranked MM, stars etc stated something in the line of "yes we know this is a mess, we are looking into it and are preparing something different for the next season" I haven't seen that... Afaik, they're quite content with Ranked mode. Sure, they'd like to improve things if possible, but I haven't seen anything specific they're dissatisfied about or anything specific they're looking to improve upon. Irrevocable ranks are there for a good reason. Starsavings is a decent compromise. I don't like Arms Race or cvs in Ranked, but I can just not play. Not really boycotting it, just choosing to stay out of an unenjoyable experience. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RenamedUser_92906789 Players 5,828 posts Report post #7 Posted February 28, 2020 All Legit questions. With a pinch of provocation and salt, but all legit, asked multiple times and ever so ignored. Unfortunately, WG does not want to address them or even hear about them. I also noticed, that WG representatives even distanced themselves from the forums again .... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Sir_Grzegorz Beta Tester 798 posts 16,103 battles Report post #8 Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, loppantorkel said: haven't seen that... because it did not happen. People prefer to remember things how they imagined it, not how it was. 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: cvs are still here my memory is really bad lately, which seson had reworked CVs? As always in this game, WG cannot patch players brain, but in 7 vs 7 you just see it more clearly how special some players are. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #9 Posted February 28, 2020 10 hours ago, novents said: ooof... that's some hard hitting questions Someone at WG office right now - More along the lines of this... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #10 Posted February 28, 2020 1). Ranked has pretty much always had CV - from the RTS days to the rework. The only times it hasn't was when it's been a tier that doesnt have CV e.g. when it was tier 9, or tier 7. 2). Its probably unlikely that they will remove them. 3). + 4). This is an interesting read: https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/articles/the-snowball-effect-and-how-to-avoid-it-in-game-design--cms-21892 Notable points are that in WoWs there is no catch up/diminishing returns/reset mechanic, and that losing a ship not only removes guns/map control, but it also loses your team points AND gains the enemy points. This means the loss of one ship can cause the snowball effect. With ranked being only 7v7 then that loss of one ship is a greater portion of the team than in 12 v 12. This season will be even worse, because losing map control not only loses you radar/hydro/crossfire, but the team who has map control gets extra buffs in the form of permanent healing and extra DPM 5). Next patch its armour gets nerfed. Sceptical opinion is this just means it will get more over pens against it, but we'll see 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #11 Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Sir_Grzegorz said: because it did not happen. my memory is really bad lately, which seson had reworked CVs? My god you are a fanboy arent you? Well whatever as I didnt hear it myself but read it it might have been a wrong quote, as for reworked cvs how about seasons 12 and 14? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #12 Posted February 28, 2020 When you do get the opportunity to ask, for example in a stream, I notice a lot of the hard hitting questions are ignored and the more benign ones embraced. We simply have no political power here to persuade them otherwise. Our only real fightback can come through the community contributers and their streams - but the question remains is whether the CCs have it in them to say something without being afraid to upset WG. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #13 Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, Shaka_D said: When you do get the opportunity to ask, for example in a stream, I notice a lot fo the hard hitting questions are ignored and the more benign ones embraced. We simply have no political power here to persuade them otherwise. Our only real fightback can come through the community contributers and their streams - but the question remains is whether the CC have it in them to say something without being afraid to upset WG. I see CC's criticising WG all the time, and they don't pull punches, either. Ever hear Flamu comment on WG's special decisions? He basically does it all the time, and he's not the only one. CC's aren't the problem. Player base has to start voting with their wallets. Demanding changes while still spending money isn't going to impress them. A halted income coupled with demands to fix stuff would be far more effective. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTT] GraySlayer Players 645 posts 5,469 battles Report post #14 Posted February 28, 2020 This is me getting ready to play ranked.. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Crysantos WG Staff 3,754 posts 17,659 battles Report post #15 Posted February 28, 2020 4 hours ago, loppantorkel said: I haven't seen that... Afaik, they're quite content with Ranked mode. Sure, they'd like to improve things if possible, but I haven't seen anything specific they're dissatisfied about or anything specific they're looking to improve upon. Irrevocable ranks are there for a good reason. Starsavings is a decent compromise. I don't like Arms Race or cvs in Ranked, but I can just not play. Not really boycotting it, just choosing to stay out of an unenjoyable experience. You haven't seen that because it isn't true. What we said is that we're looking into how we can improve Ranked in general but no changes planned in the near future, especially MM (which is technically something different that class restrictions in general). 12 hours ago, Fonfalks said: Some questions to WG about ranked 1)Why have you yet not banned CVs from ranked 2)When will you ban CVs from ranked 3)Are you aware of HUGE quantity of one sided games in ranked like 1 - 7, 7-1 or even 7-0 0-7? 4)What is in your opinion causing these games and what will you do fix MM so that games can be more competitive? 5)When and how will you address Smolensk? P.s. what is the point in your in game polls if you again and again spit on wast majority of player base and do nothing about Cvs, Smolensks etc? 1.) CVs have been part of Ranked in the past and are right now - if the season happens to be on an uneven Tier, then it won't be there. 2.) Not planned at the moment, but we're monitoring how CVs in Arms Race (after the HP restoration fix) are performing. 3.) Too early to say, season just started. But I'll make sure that our Devs pay attention to this aspect. I only managed to play one battle yet this week, so can't comment on it personally either. 4.) See answer above, can't comment on that 5.) We talked so often about Smolensk, please check our streams and plenty answers to what we think about Smolensk and her performance. PS: To get an impression what our players think and how they feel about the game. Please stop assuming that your personal opinion is representative for the entire player base, it's not - which doesn't mean we don't care about your personal opinion, but you're hurting your own argumentation by claiming to speak for pretty much everybody. What I can tell you is that we did indeed check in-game polls of games where players specifically met Smolensk (even based on the numbers) and we didn't see a significant difference in ratings. Look, I understand that CVs force you to play Ranked differently than without - it would be the same case if suddenly another class wouldn't be part of a mode, it's logical. We keep a close eye on this season with the combination of Arms Race & CVs. Greetings, Crysantos 8 4 2 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #16 Posted February 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, GraySlayer said: This is me getting ready to play ranked.. Prepping myself by taking chill pills in smaller quantities as can be seen in the gif below. So far, i made it with one bottle per battle. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #17 Posted February 28, 2020 Talking about Smolensk in general is one thing - complaining about the ship in Ranked feels weird. IMO - one of the most useless ships in this mode. It was almost cute to watch the red Smolensk yesterday trying to desperatly farm our pushing BBs & me, while we just auto-heal more then he can dish our. Smolensk is a DoT-farmer. With limited time because of how the mode works with the cap popping up and the heal buffs - everything works against Smolensk. Also, the auto heal itself isnt helping smolensk itself much, sinceof its low health pool. Im healing almost double what Smolensk does per second - given both teams have same level of buff - with Henri. Not even talking about Moskva, Stalin & BBs. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #18 Posted February 28, 2020 Well I had decent succes with farming the BBs in the battle I took Smol out, AP also does fair job on the broadsides when offered in reasonable range so I easily slaughtered the enemy cruises however she is really bad for sitting in capzone and if you get a speshul BB squad in your team well... PR and Ohio served me better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #19 Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Crysantos said: You haven't seen that because it isn't true. What we said is that we're looking into how we can improve Ranked in general but no changes planned in the near future, especially MM (which is technically something different that class restrictions in general). 1.) CVs have been part of Ranked in the past and are right now - if the season happens to be on an uneven Tier, then it won't be there. 2.) Not planned at the moment, but we're monitoring how CVs in Arms Race (after the HP restoration fix) are performing. 3.) Too early to say, season just started. But I'll make sure that our Devs pay attention to this aspect. I only managed to play one battle yet this week, so can't comment on it personally either. 4.) See answer above, can't comment on that 5.) We talked so often about Smolensk, please check our streams and plenty answers to what we think about Smolensk and her performance. PS: To get an impression what our players think and how they feel about the game. Please stop assuming that your personal opinion is representative for the entire player base, it's not - which doesn't mean we don't care about your personal opinion, but you're hurting your own argumentation by claiming to speak for pretty much everybody. What I can tell you is that we did indeed check in-game polls of games where players specifically met Smolensk (even based on the numbers) and we didn't see a significant difference in ratings. Look, I understand that CVs force you to play Ranked differently than without - it would be the same case if suddenly another class wouldn't be part of a mode, it's logical. We keep a close eye on this season with the combination of Arms Race & CVs. Greetings, Crysantos Leaving the thing with Banning CVs aside. I just got another Game with CV. On the Map were both Teams get 2 Heals Right away. And that effectively means that the CVs can Ignore most Continues AA.... The Enemy Haku could basicly make 3-4 Drops despite me being in Moskwa with Def AA and having a Mino next to me. Needless to say that in Endgame the Haku could effectively Ignore the AA of the Repu entirely. Because it effectively lost 1 Torpedo Bomber for every 2 Completed Drops. I dont give a Crab about Playing Differently. But right now that way of Playing Ranked the Moment a CV is in the Match. Is to basicly pray that either no Heals Spawn or that your CV is better than the one on the Enemy Team. Because the only thing Stopping that CV from effectively Killing the whole Enemy Team alone is the Fact that he doesnt have high enough DPS to do that faster than the Game ends. I dont know how that looks up Balancing Wise. But I can Guarantee you. In terms of "Fun to Play" or "Enjoyable Gameplay Experience" Right now. Most People would give you a Higher Rating on this. If you just gave CVs the Option to Choose 1 or 2 Ships of the Enemy Team which Return to the Port with him and Count as his Kills. Because if he Chooses you inside the Game your Options of Defending yourself against him are roughly the same as that of a Fish in a Barrel Defending himself from a Guy who keeps Poking at you with a Spear. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Sir_Grzegorz Beta Tester 798 posts 16,103 battles Report post #20 Posted February 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sunleader said: And that effectively means that the CVs can Ignore most Continues AA.... are you saying that they did not patch it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AA7] Afghanicus Players 2,106 posts 14,513 battles Report post #21 Posted February 28, 2020 Can't wait for the submarines to start catching CVs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #22 Posted February 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sir_Grzegorz said: are you saying that they did not patch it? Well. This happened in the Games I had within the last 2 Hours. So unless I missed some Announcement that they will Patch it Tomorrow. The problem is still there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #23 Posted February 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Sunleader said: Well. This happened in the Games I had within the last 2 Hours. So unless I missed some Announcement that they will Patch it Tomorrow. The problem is still there. They "fixed" it yesterday - it was even worse before that ^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Shaka_D Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters, Weekend Tester 3,691 posts 15,960 battles Report post #24 Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Captain_Newman said: I see CC's criticising WG all the time, and they don't pull punches, either. Ever hear Flamu comment on WG's special decisions? He basically does it all the time, and he's not the only one. CC's aren't the problem. Player base has to start voting with their wallets. Demanding changes while still spending money isn't going to impress them. A halted income coupled with demands to fix stuff would be far more effective. Mmmmmm, might need to listen to flamu a little more then. Boycott as a mechanism will definitely work, but rallying support is never going to happen on the scale necessary. Unless via clan action with clan leaders pursuading those they are able to influence or convince within their clan - Perhaps clan loyalty will entice clan members to support their clan if a decision is made to this end? Multiple clans boycotting events and decisions somehow would work beautifully, lol. Clans provide identity and a platform for competition, but could be used to far greater effect if harnessed to their full potential...but do as many people take the game as seriously or want to see it improved or based around fair and balanced principles like we do? Not likely i reckon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #25 Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: They "fixed" it yesterday - it was even worse before that ^^ Even Worse than a CV Squadron losing a Total of 3 Planes when doing 3 Drops on a Kremlin which is Sitting between a Moskwa and a Minotaur ? Were they Completely Invulnearble Yesterday ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
