Hayate for 2 Mil FExp?

[Pikkozoikum]

I'm used to the IJN design mentality: Tons of disadvantage and somewhere one good feature. Please don't make it that expensive

 

My suggestion would be to reduce the concealment slightly (buff) and make it way cheaper, 1 Mil to 1.5 Mil.

 

EDIT:

8 hours ago, CptMinia said:

Hello,

          FreeXP prices for Hayate and Smaland are yet to be confirmed. The obvious excuse at the moment is this price is just a place-holder but honestly I would not be surprised if they were priced at 2 million FreeXP. Don't think Smaland is worth it I actually find Halland the better destroyer overall and Hayate just would not be worth it at 2 million FreeXP. I would expect Hayate to receive a buff at some point, right now she just is not competitive for a hybrid the only DD she can put up a fight with is a Shimakaze. Even Somers would win a fight over Hayate.

 

But nothing's confirmed apart from the fact they will be FreeXP, so just hope. Smaland is still in testing I believe.

 

Regards,

               Minia

 

[lafeel]

Pardon my ignorance, but here I thought we didn't actually have a specified free xp cost on the Hayate (or the Småland for that matter) yet, and the costs on the PTS were place holders.

[KillStealBoss]

20 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Pardon my ignorance, but here I thought we didn't actually have a specified free xp cost on the Hayate (or the Småland for that matter) yet, and the costs on the PTS were place holders.

Well I think it might be that price unless it'll be a big sh*tstorm like the PR-gate

And about Hayate. I saw Flamu's commentary. And it's not worth it so for such price. I didn't know before watching that this ship felt so clumsy, I saw in the replay it felt like Grozovoi. 

So yeah I'll keep my free exp to get the Smaland instead. Imho Hayate should cost 1.5mln as max price. Not worth it if it's 2 mln. 

[Pikkozoikum]

15 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Pardon my ignorance, but here I thought we didn't actually have a specified free xp cost on the Hayate (or the Småland for that matter) yet, and the costs on the PTS were place holders.

Well, then lets hope that. But I actually could imagine, that they go with such prizes... and that's why I opened this thread, I dont want it expensive, espeically when it's that bad

[lafeel]

I suggest we cross that bridge when (if) we get to it gentlemen rather than losing our *edited* just yet, neh?

[kfa]

Wtf nerf it to be cheaper? 

Try asking WG to lower the cost of the Kurfurst to 10Mil credits because the Kremlin costs 20Mil and see how it sounds... 

[MementoMori_6030]

The only person I know who ever had 2 MILF exp is Paul Finch ("American Pie")...

[Pikkozoikum]

4 hours ago, kfa said:

Wtf nerf it to be cheaper? 

Try asking WG to lower the cost of the Kurfurst to 10Mil credits because the Kremlin costs 20Mil and see how it sounds... 

When the concealment is reduced, than it is a buff? If it goes down to 5.9 km instead of 6.1 km for example

[Aragathor]

Even for 1 mil. fXP it wouldn't be worth it. WG has a tendency to make IJN premiums uninteresting from the start. Kii, Yahagi, Mutsu, Yudachi.

 

[_BigRed__]

Greed is killing this game !!!

[DFens_666]

4 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

WG has a tendency to make IJN premiums uninteresting from the start. Kii, Yahagi, Mutsu, Yudachi.

 

Well, they had to pay for getting a T10 ship on T9

[Gidzi]

Honestly, imo, none of the ships is worth that much fxp. Personaly, i will use my fxp to skip tier 9 ships in 4 lines and take tier 10 ships of that line. 

[DFens_666]

9 minutes ago, Gidzi said:

Personaly, i will use my fxp to skip tier 9 ships in 4 lines and take tier 10 ships of that line. 

 

 

 

Might do HIV too , still havent decided yet. Buffalo is pretty close aswell, but i dont really need/want DM so ehh...

FreeXPed Yamato just 2 weeks ago aswell, because why not.

[Yedwy]

Hayate is a hard pass for me TBH, just played gunboat shima and its pretty much the same thing gun wise and I have her for free + she is faster, has better stealth and another torp rack

[Afghanicus]

I don't think it will create any PR-like $hitstorm but they will be disappointed in the amount of players actually wasting 2 mil fXP on that one.

 

Only the ones who have all the ships and way more fXP than they need will be trying out the Hayate.

 

The rest (me included) will give her a hard pass.

[Ronchabale]

No thanks

 

[Lootboxer]

1 hour ago, DFens_666 said:

Might do HIV too , still havent decided yet. Buffalo is pretty close aswell, but i dont really need/want DM so ehh...

But Des can be very useful, still probably best TX silver ship (until  Ru split at least) when HIV after acceleration nerf will recieve huge blow to IFHE build soon.

As always as soon an I've got nice ship they will kill it. Soon I will get Daring and I am sure after buff  by IFHE rework it will get smashed with typical WG gentleness.

[DFens_666]

Just now, DariusJacek said:

But Des can be very useful, still probably best TX silver ship (until  Ru split at least) when HIV after acceleration nerf will recieve huge blow to IFHE build soon. 

As always as soon an I've got nice ship they will kill it. Soon I will get Daring and I am sure after buff  by IFHE rework it will get smashed with typical WG gentleness.

 

Ive had Salem for quite some time, and only played it rarely (actually, ive played it tons in coop for certain missions ), so i dont really need a DM.

And i actually got HIV and Moskva now (because the latter gets removed).

[Lootboxer]

27 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Ive had Salem for quite some time, and only played it rarely (actually, ive played it tons in coop for certain missions ), so i dont really need a DM.

And i actually got HIV and Moskva now (because the latter gets removed).

I got Moskwa and Yama  just before the patch to start UU missions. Salem is nice, but for some reasons I do not play her often recently. I play DM a lot but in CB where it shines. In randoms both are increasingly hard to play as too many overmatching BBs came out recently - combined with CV spotting and long range RNG lottery can end in a quick one way ticket or gimped ship for the rest of a game. Bow tanking is pretty much a thing of a past now in CAs.

[CptMinia]

Hello,

          FreeXP prices for Hayate and Smaland are yet to be confirmed. The obvious excuse at the moment is this price is just a place-holder but honestly I would not be surprised if they were priced at 2 million FreeXP. Don't think Smaland is worth it I actually find Halland the better destroyer overall and Hayate just would not be worth it at 2 million FreeXP. I would expect Hayate to receive a buff at some point, right now she just is not competitive for a hybrid the only DD she can put up a fight with is a Shimakaze. Even Somers would win a fight over Hayate.

 

But nothing's confirmed apart from the fact they will be FreeXP, so just hope. Smaland is still in testing I believe.

 

Regards,

               Minia

[CptBarney]

3 minutes ago, CptMinia said:

Hello,

          FreeXP prices for Hayate and Smaland are yet to be confirmed. The obvious excuse at the moment is this price is just a place-holder but honestly I would not be surprised if they were priced at 2 million FreeXP. Don't think Smaland is worth it I actually find Halland the better destroyer overall and Hayate just would not be worth it at 2 million FreeXP. I would expect Hayate to receive a buff at some point, right now she just is not competitive for a hybrid the only DD she can put up a fight with is a Shimakaze. Even Somers would win a fight over Hayate.

 

But nothing's confirmed apart from the fact they will be FreeXP, so just hope. Smaland is still in testing I believe.

 

Regards,

               Minia

smaland got buffed reload and concealment, although 2mil is a bit mental was expecting 1mil for dd's and maybe 2mil for supercruisers and 3mil for BC's and BB's (although ironically they would have to be worth it defiently lol).

[CptMinia]

1 minute ago, CptBarney said:

smaland got buffed reload and concealment, although 2mil is a bit mental was expecting 1mil for dd's and maybe 2mil for supercruisers and 3mil for BC's and BB's (although ironically they would have to be worth it defiently lol).

No T10s would never be priced the same as T9s, I was expecting anywhere north of 1.5million so 2 is not a surprise to me.

[CptBarney]

12 minutes ago, CptMinia said:

No T10s would never be priced the same as T9s, I was expecting anywhere north of 1.5million so 2 is not a surprise to me.

Yeah, but barneh cheap so gib.

They could be a bit cheaper i suposse they don't seem worth the amount of grind it would take to get them, probs why i barely see any ohio's or colberts because the requirements are bonkers.

 

Or make them coal ships, they don't seem like free exp ship material to me anyways.

idk hayate seems meh and smaland apprently is bloody huge.

[anonym_WHY4JO92xZKJ]

24 minutes ago, CptMinia said:

I would expect Hayate to receive a buff at some point, right now she just is not competitive for a hybrid the only DD she can put up a fight with is a Shimakaze. Even Somers would win a fight over Hayate.

Actually, i am quite relived to know that new ships like the Hayate and the Goliath have their problems.

Ships should be balanced, not overpowered or underpowered, with good features that are compensated by some issues.

 

However, fixing the price of 2 millions for tier 10, when a tier 9 is 1 million, and a tier 7 is 375.000 looks a bit... Too much

I wonder how many will take this 2 ships at that price

[CptMinia]

3 minutes ago, dunbine said:

Actually, i am quite relived to know that new ships like the Hayate and the Goliath have their problems.

Ships should be balanced, not overpowered or underpowered, with good features that are compensated by some issues.

 

However, fixing the price of 2 millions for tier 10, when a tier 9 is 1 million, and a tier 7 is 375.000 looks a bit... Too much

I wonder how many will take this 2 ships at that price

Problem is Hayate isn't really balanced, she is underpowered. Her concealment, manouverability and dpm is not good. She is not a good hybrid, I am seeing her as the sort of ship were you either do no damage or a lot. Shima just does a better job than Hayate really and that's including her guns...

 

12 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Yeah, but barneh cheap so gib.

They could be a bit cheaper i suposse they don't seem worth the amount of grind it would take to get them, probs why i barely see any ohio's or colberts because the requirements are bonkers.

 

Or make them coal ships, they don't seem like free exp ship material to me anyways.

idk hayate seems meh and smaland apprently is bloody huge.

Smaland is huge and is a gimmick ship and she pays a heavy price for her radar. Halland is just a better overall destroyer. I'm sure folks are going to have their laughs in Smaland and I have too but I would still choose Halland over Smaland in random battles. She might have a chance in competitive play but we'll have to see.