[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #1 Posted February 18, 2020 Okay so I probably shouldn't make this since I've only have played one coop match with her since I unlocked her last night. Both being a you stupid factor. - 1 match you haven't seen al of the ship - coop you can Reee without much consequence But I tried to rush a Charles martel. Pump his side with AP in like 2-4km range but my either my shells scraped over his deck or there's was some late night voodoo going on. Cause like 5 shots appeared to just go through him. And the first three only did like 4k dmg. Just unlucky or a scenario to learn from? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #2 Posted February 18, 2020 Still somewhat viable since the ship didn't change much. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] howardxu_23 Players 793 posts 2,080 battles Report post #3 Posted February 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: Still somewhat viable since the ship didn't change much. It’s actually easier since that vid is from when Moskva did not have 50mm Stalinium bow 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LEEUW] TheBrut3 [LEEUW] Players 493 posts 8,080 battles Report post #4 Posted February 18, 2020 You bow in at the side of an island and shoot your HE, AP when broadside. Sometimes pop a radar when a DD is near. Or when you kite away, you show them your [edited]and shoot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #5 Posted February 18, 2020 Play co-op to get used to the ship. No, I'm serious. Learn when to use AP and where to aim, learn how to angle and mitigate. Or throw in some bots in a training battle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarskiPatzow Weekend Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 105 posts 2,142 battles Report post #6 Posted February 19, 2020 I'm getting used to it, but I prefer it much more than Kremlin. I found it hard to play at first, but I'm getting a hang of it. You can play it as a long range BB in a sense, you are quite tanky for a cruiser and you are agile like a BB so might as well play as one. Never show your broadside, not even for a second, always be aware of your enemy positions. Torpedos are hard to dodge because of the agility so try to use some islands to stay between you and DDs. This ship is all about guns, they are quite good in both ammo types, ok reload and veeeeeeeeeeeery good accuracy. The best range for me is around 15 km, anything else is either too far that breaks your shell arc or too close for people to penetrate and damage you or take out your guns. Disclaimer: I am pretty new to it too, still getting a hang of it, but these are my impressions and tactics that seem to work best for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[M-P-M] Migantium_Mashum Players 3,146 posts 19,218 battles Report post #7 Posted February 19, 2020 Oh No.... not another MOSKVA to watch out for...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #8 Posted February 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, BarskiPatzow said: I'm getting used to it, but I prefer it much more than Kremlin. I found it hard to play at first, but I'm getting a hang of it. You can play it as a long range BB in a sense, you are quite tanky for a cruiser and you are agile like a BB so might as well play as one. Never show your broadside, not even for a second, always be aware of your enemy positions. Torpedos are hard to dodge because of the agility so try to use some islands to stay between you and DDs. This ship is all about guns, they are quite good in both ammo types, ok reload and veeeeeeeeeeeery good accuracy. The best range for me is around 15 km, anything else is either too far that breaks your shell arc or too close for people to penetrate and damage you or take out your guns. Disclaimer: I am pretty new to it too, still getting a hang of it, but these are my impressions and tactics that seem to work best for me. Yea no broadside. It's like a black hole. Each time I try to turn away because those damned dds spot me, every bloody ship on the enemy team picks on me, more then when I was spotted nose in. And yes Radar cruisers are more of a prio target than A group of bbs that are closer. But holy smokes. The one match I'm referencing to is the one where the Desmoin got railed. By seven Enemies. I got away barely but never have I ever seen something so cursed as that. Sure broadside deletion nothing strange. But 160+ shells ala 30s and to just see it getting melted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #9 Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Migantium_Mashum said: Oh No.... not another MOSKVA to watch out for...... Don't worry you'll see me from orbit 15,7km 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #10 Posted February 19, 2020 Wait 4 me , Chapaev ,Dmitry , Moskva 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #11 Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, neorvo said: Wait 4 me , Chapaev ,Dmitry , Moskva The question is how much time do you have to play and do you run premium, camos and flags? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #12 Posted February 19, 2020 Just now, Sirius_IV said: The question is how much time do you have to play and do you run premium, camos and flags? Yes i am using them, and I only play co-ops. At this moment I am 50000 XP from DM. I hope can obtain Moskva before the split Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #13 Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, neorvo said: Yes i am using them, and I only play co-ops. At this moment I am 50000 XP from DM. I hope can obtain Moskva before the split Ahh coop good luck. I managed to grind from shors to Moskva with Randoms in a time span of about 5-6 days. But each time I dared to use a 200% xp camo my team got fisted so I'd get the xp I would gain if I'd just would have under performed in 100% camo.such a waste. But Heyy RISK OF WEEKEND GRINDING. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14 Posted February 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sirius_IV said: each time I dared to use a 200% xp camo my team got fisted Sounds about right when it comes to stacking exp 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #15 Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sirius_IV said: Ahh coop good luck. I managed to grind from shors to Moskva with Randoms in a time span of about 5-6 days. But each time I dared to use a 200% xp camo my team got fisted so I'd get the xp I would gain if I'd just would have under performed in 100% camo.such a waste. But Heyy RISK OF WEEKEND GRINDING. That is true. I am only trying to obtain that ship before the split. I am far to be a good players but I would like to have that ship just in case a became a average player Thanks for the advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #16 Posted February 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, neorvo said: Yes i am using them, and I only play co-ops. At this moment I am 50000 XP from DM. I hope can obtain Moskva before the split Wow, that's some grind right there. No point in suggesting you get the LM then, it would take 1,000 coop battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #17 Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Taliesn said: Wow, that's some grind right there. No point in suggesting you get the LM then, it would take 1,000 coop battles. The LM is lost at this moment. WG locked that option since last patching. Now only with resetting lines. In the case os Mosvka is obscure to me how to obtain its LM when it ill be in Armory. By spending all cammos, flags , etc, I could obtain LM with 300 co-op battles, playing DD Grozovoi and Gearing each, but playing cruisers I found more challenging ( ohhh Chapy has been ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #18 Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, neorvo said: The LM is lost at this moment. WG locked that option since last patching. Now only with resetting lines. In the case os Mosvka is obscure to me how to obtain its LM when it ill be in Armory. By spending all cammos, flags , etc, I could obtain LM with 300 co-op battles, playing DD Grozovoi and Gearing each, but playing cruisers I found more challenging ( ohhh Chapy has been ... Chapvey reminded me why stopped playing cruisers and focused more on bbs. I find it awefull 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #19 Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, neorvo said: , but playing cruisers I found more challenging ( ohhh Chapy has been ... BTW you'll love Dmitri Donskoi. Sadly it doesn't have a space camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #20 Posted February 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, neorvo said: The LM is lost at this moment. WG locked that option since last patching. Now only with resetting lines. In the case os Mosvka is obscure to me how to obtain its LM when it ill be in Armory. By spending all cammos, flags , etc, I could obtain LM with 300 co-op battles, playing DD Grozovoi and Gearing each, but playing cruisers I found more challenging ( ohhh Chapy has been ... Man, I appreciate your effort but hell, that's a lot of time wasted in Coops when you can do thai in Randoms in half the time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WP70] ________________Morrison Players 892 posts 22,465 battles Report post #21 Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taliesn said: Man, I appreciate your effort but hell, that's a lot of time wasted in Coops when you can do thai in Randoms in half the time. But while Random has better xp gain the odds of winning are diffrent as wel. pick your poison. I picked mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #22 Posted February 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sirius_IV said: But while Random has better xp gain the odds of winning are diffrent as wel. pick your poison. I picked mine Even leaving aside that there is very little to learn in Coop, 98% WR of very small gains, where with your premium, expensive camos and special flags you will only manage to just about break even, on top of the hours wasted, doesn't make any sense, IMO, but each to their own. I rather the 50-60% in randoms to be honest, where even a defeat with a 200% camo should net you a lot more than a victory in Coop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KAP] Lord_of_Tali [KAP] Players 68 posts 23,922 battles Report post #23 Posted February 19, 2020 Moskva can be very potent especially at the late game. Because of its tankyness. But it also has some weaknesses: Worst Concelament of all CA Sluggish and bad turning Circle Takes huge damage when its broadside - big citadel Those 3 things makes it necessary that Moskva should not go alone on a flank or bow tank with no BBs near, you will get focused by enemy BBs and long range HE Cruisers. Sure you can tank alot but its still a cruiser and you get huge damage because of the big superstructure and the size of the ship. Moskva in my opinion is one of the best supporting cruisers - it should always be near 1 or 2 Tier X BB's and support them it has some nice specialities: 12km radar / hydro to detect enemy DDs and torps extremely accurate guns with 21km range when the legendary module is equipped one of the best AP Penetrations at long range - it can citadel Cruisers like Hindenburg at 15-16km range big health pool for a CA I see a lot of players that bow tank Moskva near islands -in my opinion its better suited to make a pushes with 2 BBs , a flanking Cruiser and a DD - during the push it should stay near the BBs and support them with radar and hydro. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[L4GG] Butterdoll Players 3,470 posts 11,414 battles Report post #24 Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, neorvo said: Yes i am using them, and I only play co-ops. At this moment I am 50000 XP from DM. I hope can obtain Moskva before the split Well, you might try random. I did it in random with the range module still missing, with a 8 point captain + concealment module. Don't forget to use a camo and flags that will give you free XP bonus as well. I'm 55 k in DM Donskoy (i'm missing the second hull and i'm with a 11 points captain) and i will start in random with it. I have 95k of free XP on the side, to use it if i'll need it. In this moment i'm rushing for coal, so i'm playing other ships other than DM Donskoy, all of them have flags and camo that will give free xp along with xp, commander xp and so on. Papa Papa signals + camo make around 333% + 100% 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #25 Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Butterdoll said: Well, you might try random. I did it in random with the range module still missing, with a 8 point captain + concealment module. Don't forget to use a camo and flags that will give you free XP bonus as well. I'm 55 k in DM Donskoy (i'm missing the second hull and i'm with a 11 points captain) and i will start in random with it. I have 95k of free XP on the side, to use it if i'll need it. In this moment i'm rushing for coal, so i'm playing other ships other than DM Donskoy, all of them have flags and camo that will give free xp along with xp, commander xp and so on. Papa Papa signals + camo make around 333% + 100% I have not enough experience for playing randoms. Perhaps I give a try. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites