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Nerf Thunderer

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No skill ship
Sits at max range and spams HE and does 10-15k a salvo in addition to the 4 fires it will set on you.
No point in getting anything else than HE spammers. 
All bb's are just rendered useless against this trash playstyle. 
No skill involved at all

What a crap meta

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How would you nerf it?

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1 hour ago, Thorvaldsen99 said:

No skill ship
Sits at max range and spams HE and does 10-15k a salvo in addition to the 4 fires it will set on you.
No point in getting anything else than HE spammers. 
All bb's are just rendered useless against this trash playstyle. 
No skill involved at all

What a crap meta

Use fireprevention when playing tier 10.

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Good players in the Thunderer use AP. It’s a much scarier ship then and probably too strong.

As a long range HE spammer it’s no better than the Conqueror and can’t even print a new ship when you do hit him!

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I thought this was going to be a topic where the OP was overperforming in Thunderer to such a degree that he was asking for a nerf. The Thunderer seems to be quite strong so he might have had a case. Instead the usual. Not even general stats to back the argument. I should have seen it coming :cap_old:

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13 minutes ago, Munchboii said:

Premium ships cannot be nerfed but nice try :cap_like:

Is Thunderer a premium ship or a very nerfable second rate special ship though? WG can nerf it, but they probably won't do it unless there aren't any other options.

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17 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

Is Thunderer a premium ship or a very nerfable second rate special ship though? WG can nerf it, but they probably won't do it unless there aren't any other options.

Just like WG is nerfing Smolensk?:cap_cool:

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2 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Just like WG is nerfing Smolensk?:cap_cool:

They are changing mechanics that will effect the Smolensk, so we'll see. Hopefully it will get shafted. If nothing else, it's being removed. ...got to make room for the new Soviets... :cap_like:

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22 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

They are changing mechanics that will effect the Smolensk, so we'll see. Hopefully it will get shafted. If nothing else, it's being removed. ...got to make room for the new Soviets... :cap_like:

IFHE is irrelevant for Smol, while 16mm deck will result in more overpens from overmatching battleship guns.

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47 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

Is Thunderer a premium ship or a very nerfable second rate special ship though? WG can nerf it, but they probably won't do it unless there aren't any other options.

It can be purchased indirectly with in doublons to skip the coal grind. If they nerf the Thunderer they will be obliged to offer refunds of Coal to players. 

 

They did not nerf smolensk, they just removed it. This is what they will do to the Thunderer

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Wargaming have stated that these ‘special’ships can be nerfed.

 

Smolensk and Colbert could be heading for a nerf in armour plating  though this would be a global change rather than a nerf.

 

I do think they will in general avoid doing this.

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51 minutes ago, Panocek said:

IFHE is irrelevant for Smol, while 16mm deck will result in more overpens from overmatching battleship guns.

The deck stays 30 mm its the upper belt that becomes 16

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No the whole central part will be 16mm according to the table provided.

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48 minutes ago, Munchboii said:

It can be purchased indirectly with in doublons to skip the coal grind.

How ?

Is there some coal for dubloons option that I missed 

(if so then I can get the Yoshino)

 

48 minutes ago, Munchboii said:

If they nerf the Thunderer they will be obliged to offer refunds of Coal to players. 

Nobody ever directly "bought" the coal so why ?

48 minutes ago, Munchboii said:

They did not nerf smolensk, they just removed it. This is what they will do to the Thunderer

They are gonna change the armour and it has been removed from the armoury

 

 

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8 hours ago, Thorvaldsen99 said:

No skill ship
Sits at max range and spams HE and does 10-15k a salvo in addition to the 4 fires it will set on you.
No point in getting anything else than HE spammers. 
All bb's are just rendered useless against this trash playstyle. 
No skill involved at all

What a crap meta

You have a Smolensk and you cry about spamming HE?  go home you are drunk :Smile_veryhappy:

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1 hour ago, Ronchabale said:

How ?

Is there some coal for dubloons option that I missed 

(if so then I can get the Yoshino)

Event containers often have coal among rewards. Whale hard enough and anything for coal is within reach.

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yea there is no T10 premiums just spesial ships, so they can be "changed", but i find Smolensk way worse then thunderer...thunderer is a big ship with crappy armor so it can be dealt with...smolensk has some of best defence...smoke...armor that gets overpen'd and highest velocity of shells for light ship spammers, and a huge range.

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Thunderer summary;

 

Can be citadelled frontally at 15km by anything bigger than Moskva (as I discovered the other night)

8 guns with special British BB RNG dispersion (similar, but not quite as derpy as US BB dispersion)

Very high fire chance offset by having only 8 guns with derp dispersion.

Tremendous AP rounds... for a British BB

 

It's better than Conq when using AP, and arguably worse when using HE - the Conq's HE strength is as much about plastering the target with high pen HE rounds as it is about setting fires, Thunderer doesn't do the 14k dmg + 2 fires thing like Conq… usually it'll be 4.5k + 1 fire. 

 

It's strong, but it doesn't need a nerf...

 

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14 minutes ago, _Dunc_ said:

Thunderer summary;

 

Can be citadelled frontally at 15km by anything bigger than Moskva (as I discovered the other night)

8 guns with special British BB RNG dispersion (similar, but not quite as derpy as US BB dispersion)

Very high fire chance offset by having only 8 guns with derp dispersion.

Tremendous AP rounds... for a British BB

 

It's better than Conq when using AP, and arguably worse when using HE - the Conq's HE strength is as much about plastering the target with high pen HE rounds as it is about setting fires, Thunderer doesn't do the 14k dmg + 2 fires thing like Conq… usually it'll be 4.5k + 1 fire. 

 

It's strong, but it doesn't need a nerf...

 

From the front? How?

 

Thunderer has the best dispersion of any battleship with battlecruiser dispersion and 2.00 sigma. That combination doesn’t exist in any other battleship.

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3 hours ago, Munchboii said:

It can be purchased indirectly with in doublons to skip the coal grind. If they nerf the Thunderer they will be obliged to offer refunds of Coal to players. 

 

No they are not. They didnt sell Thunderer directly for money. They said, they can/will nerf Special ships if they need to.

 

9 hours ago, _Conan_Librarian_ said:

bad mobility

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9 hours ago, Thorvaldsen99 said:

Sits at max range and spams HE and does 10-15k a salvo in addition to the 4 fires it will set on you.

I guess dodging is not a concept you are familiar with? Or skilling FP?

But hey, lucky it was a Thunderer, and not a Conqueror, which is much better at slinging HE.

 

9 hours ago, Thorvaldsen99 said:

All bb's are just rendered useless against this trash playstyle. 

Same could be said for Cruisers that can get deleted by BBs at any range....

 

46 minutes ago, _Dunc_ said:

 

Can be citadelled frontally at 15km by anything bigger than Moskva (as I discovered the other night)

8 guns with special British BB RNG dispersion (similar, but not quite as derpy as US BB dispersion)

Thunderer has 32mm plating, only Yamasushi can overmatch that? Maybe you got "lucky" with something else, and it wont happen on a regular basis. Ive gotten/received freaky citadels too over the years.

As @gopher31 already stated, its Dispersion is much better than that from other BBs.

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9 hours ago, Thorvaldsen99 said:

No skill ship
Sits at max range and spams HE and does 10-15k a salvo in addition to the 4 fires it will set on you.
No point in getting anything else than HE spammers. 
All bb's are just rendered useless against this trash playstyle. 
No skill involved at all

What a crap meta

He is worst HE spamere than conqueror

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Hello,

please be a little more constructive next time..

you can always try "what kind of nerf do you offer to make it balanced in your opinion?"

 

Topic will be locked..

 

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