Pay to Play PVE mode?

[Zen71_sniper]

It seems that there is a growing level of frustration about Randoms and general unhappiness with reducing number and variety of scenarios. 

 

From a business point of view, it doesn't make a sense for WG to invest in scenarios and campaigns as it doesn't directly make them $$.

 

So, a simple solution - let's entice WG to develop PVE content. Would you be interested in paying a moderate subscription to be able to play interesting PVE?  Simple as that. 

 

P.S. NB: If you are a pure F2P player, please don't vote as it doesn't affect you...

 

[ForlornSailor]

3 minutes ago, Zen71_sniper said:

it doesn't make a sense for WG to invest in scenarios and campaigns as it doesn't directly make them $$.

 

Dont even think thats completly true. I know a few guys, that bought premium ships or premium time for Scenarios. Like Atlanta, Sims, Cossack. Not sure if WG is able to draw the connection or if they also think, OPs dont create any income.

 

But yea, I´d kinda be willing to spend something but then this PvE section needs some serious and continous attention - and with that I mean even more then all the original scenarios that we used to have. Im talking scenarios, that cover almost all tiers, starting T3 up to 9 atleast. Historical scenarios, something to do solo or with 2/3 guys etc. IMO - it has huuuge potential.

[Sargento_YO]

3 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Dont even think thats completly true. I know a few guys, that bought premium ships or premium time for Scenarios. Like Atlanta, Sims, Cossack. Not sure if WG is able to draw the connection or if they also think, OPs dont create any income.

 

Each time Cherry blossom scenario was on I brought a couple of premium days to enjoy it.
Also, most of the times I brought premium time for Narai. As well as keeping some ships just for play that scenario.

[Captain_Newman]

You could have both cooperative and PvP scenarios, in both historical and made up settings. Raid for the Filth even had 3 teams fighting (or not?) each other in a somewhat-scenario like setting.

 

Personally I think some historical events could be fun played from both sides - one team fights for the historical outcome, the other tries to turn it around. And when subs come, pvp scenarios involving convoy escort for a team of destroyers, and a team of wolfpack subs tasked with destroying it, could be pretty cool.  Come to think of it, this could be an entire new game mode / battle type.

 

All that being said, they already charge us for premium ships, premium time, event lootboxes, doubloons, camos, etc...  I don't particularly want to have to sub in order to have access to all game content - the game's formula is f2p, but if you want to make it easier or faster by getting more xp, credits etc. per battle, or having an interesting premium ship better suited for some tasks, then we pay. I don't think going into subscription-for-pve territory would be a great idea, all they need to do is invest some effort into this kind of content and it will definitely pay itself off. Having a fun game mode where one doesn't have to worry about roflstomp matches wrecking his stats, and can just relax while playing a historical - like battle would definitely be popular and beneficial for both pvp and pve players alike.

[GulvkluderGuld]

They make events like April fool, Halloween and the rust bucket event in summer. Those make money.

No reason PvE shouldnt if you add lootboxes and micro-transactions! 

 

But the modes get boring VERY quick and the problem is, there are other players in the game mode. 

 

Maybe if you could only access the game modes if you had Premium account, i would play them, but WoWs is primarily a PvP game.

[Zen71_sniper]

3 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said:

You could have both cooperative and PvP scenarios, in both historical and made up settings. Raid for the Filth even had 3 teams fighting (or not?) each other in a somewhat-scenario like setting.

 

Personally I think some historical events could be fun played from both sides - one team fights for the historical outcome, the other tries to turn it around. And when subs come, pvp scenarios involving convoy escort for a team of destroyers, and a team of wolfpack subs tasked with destroying it, could be pretty cool.  Come to think of it, this could be an entire new game mode / battle type.

 

All that being said, they already charge us for premium ships, premium time, event lootboxes, doubloons, camos, etc...  I don't particularly want to have to sub in order to have access to all game content - the game's formula is f2p, but if you want to make it easier or faster by getting more xp, credits etc. per battle, or having an interesting premium ship better suited for some tasks, then we pay. I don't think going into subscription-for-pve territory would be a great idea, all they need to do is invest some effort into this kind of content and it will definitely pay itself off.

But WG has stated many times that they don't see PVE as a priority. That is why I created this topic

 

 

[IanH755]

As a PvE only player (stopped PvP 3.5 years ago) I would BUT only on the understanding that it is a fully seperate mode i.e. any XP/credits/rewards are separate to the normal stuff we get - and WG will never do that so then this mode will never exist.

[Captain_Newman]

4 minutes ago, Zen71_sniper said:

But WG has stated many times that they don't see PVE as a priority. That is why I created this topic

 

 

 

It doesn't have to be a priority, there is a wide spectrum between "top priority, everyone work on this" and "completely neglected". A company of WG's resources could surely afford to have a few employees in a department tasked with developing and maintaining this kind of content? I know SerB's maybach needs it's gold-plated rims, but after that if some resources could be devoted to actual content, that'd be nice..

[lovelacebeer]

I would be willing to pay if it was similar to premium time, that way at weekends when I don’t want to engage in random battles I could complete daily missions in PvE a whole lot faster than in co op.

[Zen71_sniper]

3 minutes ago, IanH755 said:

As a PvE only player (stopped PvP 3.5 years ago) I would BUT only on the understanding that it is a fully seperate mode i.e. any XP/credits/rewards are separate to the normal stuff we get - and WG will never do that so then this mode will never exist.

It could be a separate mode (think apocalypse event) but rewards should still be credited to the main account

 

[WashedandDeceased]

Just imagine a PvE version of the attack on Pearl Harbor

CV players get some practice on juicy targets

Less CVs in random

WG makes a few bucks

 

Or

 

Prince of Wales & Repulse Vs the Japanese

Bismarck's last stand

Graf Spee in a 1v3

Battle off Samar

Or any historical battle for that matter!

 

 

[Zen71_sniper]

Just now, Puerto_Rico_is_Free said:

Just imagine a PvE version of the attack on Pearl Harbor

CV players get some practice on juicy targets

Less CVs in random

WG makes a few bucks

Hell yeah!!!

 

Tora Tora Tora!!!!

[lovelacebeer]

25 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said:

 

It doesn't have to be a priority, there is a wide spectrum between "top priority, everyone work on this" and "completely neglected". A company of WG's resources could surely afford to have a few employees in a department tasked with developing and maintaining this kind of content? I know SerB's maybach needs it's gold-plated rims, but after that if some resources could be devoted to actual content, that'd be nice..

Whilst it’s true there is a whole spectrum between top priority and none, WG do have quite the track record for ignoring things that are not top priority and the to do list grows ever greater 

[Molly_Delaney]

Or something like the whole operation leading up to the 'Battle of Tsushima'.

Use the official logs except actually have the fleet attacked where they claimed to have been.....

 

Make it a whole chain of events, 3 parts and then meet a horde of Mikasas........

[DanSilverwing]

Is there any mode that directly makes WG money? No.

 

We buy Premium ships and Premium time to enjoy in all modes. Like others have responded already, here and on NA, I bought stuff specifically to play in Operations. I also bought Harekaze of my own pleasure, and there has never been an Operation she'd be eligible for.

 

Why are you feeding this false narrative that pve is not popular and not worth investing in? As a business WG can choose how to cater for their customers, by either: finding out what they want from effective market research, or dictating what they think people ought to want, or making a line of tech-tree Russian cruisers no-one asked for and will not make any return on investment. ffs.

 

No way in hell I would pay directly for a pve mode. I've sunk more money into this game than I perhaps should have done, and dislike the idea that my custom has no value. If WG started putting up paywalls I would happily play any number of single-player standalone games instead.

 

The notion is as insulting as it is absurd.

[WashedandDeceased]

8 minutes ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Or something like the whole operation leading up to the 'Battle of Tsushima'.

Use the official logs except actually have the fleet attacked where they claimed to have been.....

 

Make it a whole chain of events, 3 parts and then meet a horde of Mikasas........

I call dibs on Kamchatka 

 

In all seriousness, this is more and more starting to sound like Atlantic Fleet, but with the WG engine and graphics

(For which I will gladly pay money)

 

@MrConway just tagging you to forward the idea :D

[Zen71_sniper]

27 minutes ago, DanSilverwing said:

Is there any mode that directly makes WG money? No.

 

We buy Premium ships and Premium time to enjoy in all modes. Like others have responded already, here and on NA, I bought stuff specifically to play in Operations. I also bought Harekaze of my own pleasure, and there has never been an Operation she'd be eligible for.

 

Why are you feeding this false narrative that pve is not popular and not worth investing in? As a business WG can choose how to cater for their customers, by either: finding out what they want from effective market research, or dictating what they think people ought to want, or making a line of tech-tree Russian cruisers no-one asked for and will not make any return on investment. ffs.

 

No way in hell I would pay directly for a pve mode. I've sunk more money into this game than I perhaps should have done, and dislike the idea that my custom has no value. If WG started putting up paywalls I would happily play any number of single-player standalone games instead.

 

The notion is as insulting as it is absurd.

Are you saying that the narrative is wrong? lol.

 

I suggest that you read the answers from WG regarding the scenarios and campaigns. 

 

So you can sulk or you can be constructive. ;)

 

[DanSilverwing]

2 minutes ago, Zen71_sniper said:

Are you saying that the narrative is wrong? lol.

 

I suggest that you read the answers from WG regarding the scenarios and campaigns. 

 

So you can sulk or you can be constructive. ;)

 

I have, and you are confusing 'popular' and 'priority'.

 

And we don't make personal attacks here, mate.

[Zen71_sniper]

18 minutes ago, DanSilverwing said:

I have, and you are confusing 'popular' and 'priority'.

 

And we don't make personal attacks here, mate.

I kind of agree with you. PvE is popular and it should be attended to, but it is not.

 

Nothing personal here mate - 

 

[Padds01]

the pvp just gets worse and worse a decent pve mode would be a great addition

[Major_Damage225]

I stopped PvP with 0.8.0, i sayd to myself i'll do a bit of PvE untill things stabilise (we know how that worked out), so far after hearing the comunity here and watching replays, i decided to join the PvE section (for now at least), but lately seeing WG seamingly abandon PvE (byby ops), i would have to say, i would gladly buy a PvE DLC if WG would make one, personally i bellive WoWs has beyond good possibility to field a PvE side of the game, to run paralell to PvP. 

(i loved operations personally) 

My quick 2 cents. 

 

[Butterdoll]

5 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Or something like the whole operation leading up to the 'Battle of Tsushima'.

Use the official logs except actually have the fleet attacked where they claimed to have been.....

 

Make it a whole chain of events, 3 parts and then meet a horde of Mikasas........

sorry to burst your bubble.

 

But that already exists

 

Saving Transylvania, one of the Halloween Ops.

[NothingButTheRain]

6 hours ago, Zen71_sniper said:

Pay to Play PVE mode?

You mean like "Insert Coin"? 

[Commander_Ericson]

I mainly play random battles, but I also play scenarios and co-op at times, especially when I need some relief from Randoms or just want an easy game.

 

Scenarios can be good and always hoped they would bring back the others and even expand it with more based loosely on historical naval battles. Possibly even setting both sides to be made up with players in specific nations ships.

 

Would I pay for being able to play against bots. No. But only having 1 main game mode will eventually cause me to loose interest and any future money I might put into the game will also go on buying someone else's game.

 

Does having more game modes keep me interested and entice me to by premium account and/or premium ships? Yes. I have purchased T6 and T7 premiums specifically for playing scenarios

[Yedwy]

7 hours ago, Zen71_sniper said:

It seems that there is a growing level of frustration about Randoms and general unhappiness with reducing number and variety of scenarios. 

 

From a business point of view, it doesn't make a sense for WG to invest in scenarios and campaigns as it doesn't directly make them $$.

 

So, a simple solution - let's entice WG to develop PVE content. Would you be interested in paying a moderate subscription to be able to play interesting PVE?  Simple as that. 

 

P.S. NB: If you are a pure F2P player, please don't vote as it doesn't affect you...

 

Well Randoms or Ranked dont make them € directly either