Asashio Refund, or at least let me move the Captain for free.

[widgetman]

Hello as the Asashio is totally nerfed to hell now with the Battleships being able to spot the torps at much greater distance, and these being its only real targets the only way to try and reconfigure the Captain is altering some of the skills etc.

However I find that even as the changes are now live I cannot change without cost?

With such a dramatic impact on this ship why can we not respec for free??

I have just tested with the speed boost and the torps are still far too slow and seem to be detected so early I wanted to use the Captain on maybe another ship.

[veslingr]

7 minutes ago, widgetman said:

Hello as the Asashio is totally nerfed to hell now with the Battleships being able to spot the torps at much greater distance, and these being its only real targets the only way to try and reconfigure the Captain is altering some of the skills etc.

However I find that even as the changes are now live I cannot change without cost?

With such a dramatic impact on this ship why can we not respec for free??

I have just tested with the speed boost and the torps are still far too slow and seem to be detected so early I wanted to use the Captain on maybe another ship.

i hope you know that BBs needs to mount module for that, and lose stealth module....it is not like they automatic spot your torps....and most BBs will not take it becasue it is much much much worse modul than stealth one......fire and HE spamers are much bigger threat to BBs than torps.

[Xevious_Red]

2 minutes ago, veslingr said:

i hope you know that BBs needs to mount module for that, and lose stealth module....it is not like they automatic spot your torps....and most BBs will not take it becasue it is much much much worse modul than stealth one......fire and HE spamers are much bigger threat to BBs than torps.

This was pretty much my thought. "I can take a module that let's me spot torps better!" Ok which of my BB would I drop concealment for? Only one I dont care about concealment is the GK, and I wouldn't bother taking it on the GK anyway since it has hydro.

 

[HaachamaShipping]

Hydro existed before and was on certain BBs too. Also, you don't get refunded for meta changes.

[VanD4rk]

25 minutes ago, widgetman said:

Asashio is totally nerfed to hell

You sound like a DDiva 

[Thrall1983]

I think it's still too early to tell how this change will impact the game, as we don't know how many will use this new module.

I am sure or atleast I hope WG will monitor this and make adjustment if needed.

 

I personally will not use this module on any of my BB's as I value concealment more and I feel I don't have that much trouble with torpedos to begin with.

[Excavatus]

32 minutes ago, veslingr said:

i hope you know that BBs needs to mount module for that, and lose stealth module....it is not like they automatic spot your torps....and most BBs will not take it becasue it is much much much worse modul than stealth one......fire and HE spamers are much bigger threat to BBs than torps.

 

26 minutes ago, Xevious_Red said:

This was pretty much my thought. "I can take a module that let's me spot torps better!" Ok which of my BB would I drop concealment for? Only one I dont care about concealment is the GK, and I wouldn't bother taking it on the GK anyway since it has hydro.

 

yeah we are discussing in our clan discord..

and rightnow, only consesus is "Kremlin should get it"
for the rest, Concealment seems more important..

[veslingr]

1 minute ago, Excavatus said:

 

yeah we are discussing in our clan discord..

and rightnow, only consesus is "Kremlin should get it"
for the rest, Concealment seems more important..

Probably....but still as Kremlin play style is using cover and small push he is not best to dodg torps even if he sees it earlier...so this will not drastically lower chance of broadside torps hit....i hope nobody is trying to hit any Bbs from front side :)

[Logan_MountStuart]

Does one of the new mods also give an increase in torpedo speed as well, it's about balance and WG don't often get that right but they seem to be pretty fair on this one.

[Sargento_YO]

typical dd player which wants to invisible torp.

[thiextar]

The new torpedo acquisition module is really stupid, and a direct nerf to dds like the asashio. The very least wargaming can do is offer free respecs and moving commanders around, really they should also offer refunds.

 

This is such a stupid way to do the module anyawys, they should have just made it percentage based and it would have been fine.

[M4R4Z]

5 minutes ago, thiextar said:

The new torpedo acquisition module is really stupid, and a direct nerf to dds like the asashio. The very least wargaming can do is offer free respecs and moving commanders around, really they should also offer refunds.

 

This is such a stupid way to do the module anyawys, they should have just made it percentage based and it would have been fine.

And then who would freexp the new European tree with super fast torpedoes and, guess what, 1.8 km detection?

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, Xevious_Red said:

This was pretty much my thought. "I can take a module that let's me spot torps better!" Ok which of my BB would I drop concealment for? Only one I dont care about concealment is the GK, and I wouldn't bother taking it on the GK anyway since it has hydro.

 

Could make a case for the consumable one over it on the GK to be honest..

[thiextar]

14 minutes ago, M4R4Z said:

And then who would freexp the new European tree with super fast torpedoes and, guess what, 1.8 km detection?

oh crap youre on to something

[Xevious_Red]

11 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Could make a case for the consumable one over it on the GK to be honest..

Yeah not a bad shout - 10% longer hydro, and 10% more heal

[Perekotypole]

There may be free captain skill reset when IFHE rework goes live

[Zen71_sniper]

1 hour ago, VanD4rk said:

You sound like a DDiva 

Spoken like a true BBaby 

 

[ollonborre]

The new acquisition module altough improved is still a tough sell since it occupies the concealment slot. And even if you do take it 1.8 km torp spotting does not equal immunity to torps. Some torps are already close to that range anyways.

 

I don't fully understand the hard spot cap but I'm fairly certain it won't change much regardless. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Asashio torps also decently fast? So even if you can see them you can't dodge all of them if you get caught out.

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

6 hours ago, veslingr said:

i hope you know that BBs needs to mount module for that, and lose stealth module....it is not like they automatic spot your torps....and most BBs will not take it becasue it is much much much worse modul than stealth one......fire and HE spamers are much bigger threat to BBs than torps.

This!! My 19,2 km Smolensk hopes EVERY BB will change out the concealment module for the torp one!! I hate when they suddenly go dark and I still have 9K to burn of.

[Nishi_Kinuyo]

How many BBabies actually take the torp-spotting module to begin with?

[Zemeritt]

1 minute ago, Nishi_Kinuyo said:

How many BBabies actually take the torp-spotting module to begin with?

 

All those BBs, which used the other modul anyways.

[Cammo1962]

7 hours ago, Sargento_YO said:

typical dd player which wants to invisible torp.

Well the DWT are/was promoted by WG as a good thing so tell me what is the point of promote them if they want to nerf them later because of the meta or because the might be to good ?? And is it because the new swedish DDs that  are coming with missile tops they are doing it ??

[Robustius]

95% of the playerbase is below 50% wr. All those people will use the module because torps are OP.

 

[OldschoolGaming_YouTube]

2 hours ago, Cammo1962 said:

Well the DWT are/was promoted by WG as a good thing so tell me what is the point of promote them if they want to nerf them later because of the meta or because the might be to good ?? And is it because the new swedish DDs that  are coming with missile tops they are doing it ??

 

Not really sure how much 1.8km detection will do against Swedish lasertorps? Not really like BBs are able to speed up and turn on a dime.

 

Not really sure how much it help against Asasio DWT with torp speed skill (16 km ones) and the new module that ads to that speed either. Most BBs like to sit still at range. Good luck moving when those bad boys shows up.

[KillStealBoss]

12 hours ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

Hydro existed before and was on certain BBs too. Also, you don't get refunded for meta changes.

Sometimes. Like Kutuzov and Belfast and after CV rework you could exchange those ships for dubloons.