sneak Asashio nerf (rant)..

[66Schwifty]

dear WeeGee,

 

first of all i want to say that if this is intended and not a bug i will 100% ask for my money back.

 

now, why in the hell did you nerf Asashio's torps? and where was it in the patch notes? for those of you that don't know what the hell i'm talking about -

 

 

the torpedo detection is now 0.9 km. used to be 0.8 km. before anyone asks, i do use the new Torpedo Tubes Modification 1 upgrade (third slot) that increases the speed of torpedoes by 5%. so why was it so important to nerf the torps on Asashio? btw, Yueyang's torpedoes are the same as before, 0.8 km detection range with the same TTM1 upgrade, so the upgrade itself doesn't affect spotting distance (just comparing deepwater torpedoes).

 

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and then there's the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade that makes all torps visible at 1.8 km. now i get that CCs and YouTubers say that the Concealment module is still better to take on a BB, but players that are annoyed by sneaky fishes are going to use it. i know a couple of them. they care less about slightly lower visibility than torpedoes. so you put that in the game and let's be frank, you take away the main (and sometimes only) means for Asashio to do any significant damage and then you nerf it's torpedoes as well? without telling us about it? great job, WeeGee, great job..

[Molly_Delaney]

Eto~

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/129653-huge-dd-nerf-might-be-coming-for-patch-091/

[Aixin]

Vor 23 Minuten, iTchyfoot sagte:

dear WeeGee,

 

first of all i want to say that if this is intended and not a bug i will 100% ask for my money back.

 

now, why in the hell did you nerf Asashio's torps? and where was it in the patch notes? for those of you that don't know what the hell i'm talking about -

 

 

the torpedo detection is now 0.9 km. used to be 0.8 km. before anyone asks, i do use the new Torpedo Tubes Modification 1 upgrade (third slot) that increases the speed of torpedoes by 5%. so why was it so important to nerf the torps on Asashio? btw, Yueyang's torpedoes are the same as before, 0.8 km detection range with the same TTM1 upgrade, so the upgrade itself doesn't affect spotting distance (just comparing deepwater torpedoes).

 

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and then there's the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade that makes all torps visible at 1.8 km. now i get that CCs and YouTubers say that the Concealment module is still better to take on a BB, but players that are annoyed by sneaky fishes are going to use it. i know a couple of them. they care less about slightly lower visibility than torpedoes. so you put that in the game and let's be frank, you take away the main (and sometimes only) means for Asashio to do any significant damage and then you nerf it's torpedoes as well? without telling us about it? great job, WeeGee, great job..

Well I can understand you. But compare it to the cv nerf in 8.5. Folks wanted their money also back for prem cvs. As the Asashio nerf is a global nerf you won't get a cent back. 

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Oh that ... :) Yeaaaah.

 

Another DD nerf coming really soon in a form of Soviet Cruisers.

When in the last year did DDs not receive a direct shaft?

[Aixin]

Vor 1 Minute, nambr9 sagte:

Oh that ... :) Yeaaaah.

 

Another DD nerf coming really soon in a form of Soviet Cruisers.

When in the last year did DDs not receive a direct shaft?

Well it's all for bb community:) 

[veslingr]

24 minutes ago, Molly_Delaney said:

Eto~

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/129653-huge-dd-nerf-might-be-coming-for-patch-091/

that is not what he is saying

[66Schwifty]

6 minutes ago, Aixin said:

Well I can understand you. But compare it to the cv nerf in 8.5. Folks wanted their money also back for prem cvs. As the Asashio nerf is a global nerf you won't get a cent back. 

 

4 minutes ago, nambr9 said:

Oh that ... :) Yeaaaah.

 

Another DD nerf coming really soon in a form of Soviet Cruisers.

When in the last year did DDs not receive a direct shaft?

it's not just the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade, it's the sneaky 0.1 km detection nerf as well. that was never mentioned in the patch notes, btw. i mean, torpedoes are the main and most of the time the only means to do any damage and they can only hit BBs and CVs. with all these nerfs how am i supposed to play a ship i considered most fun of them all? what has Asashio going on for it now?

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Just now, Aixin said:

Well it's all for bb community:) 

Actually its for the RU players mostly.

 

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against new content.

But after Smolensk, Kremlin we are looking at another set of Soviet top performers.

 

It's kida hard, not to see the bias ... also must be hard for the WG public team to keep a straight face all the time :)

[fumtu]

30 minutes ago, iTchyfoot said:

the torpedo detection is now 0.9 km. used to be 0.8 km.

 

They were never 0.8km. Since it is released they had 0.9km detection range. LWM review from almost two years ago

 

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Her fish are fast (67 knot), long ranged (20km) and stealthy (900m detection)

 

http://shipcomrade.com/?p=799

[Odo_Toothless]

33 minutes ago, iTchyfoot said:

now, why in the hell did you nerf Asashio's torps?(...)used to be 0.8 km.

Nope. It was 0.9 km from the start. From Little Mouse review:

 

http://shipcomrade.com/?p=799  Asashio’s fish are only spotted at a range of 0.9km

[RenamedUser_92906789]

3 minutes ago, iTchyfoot said:

 

it's not just the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade, it's the sneaky 0.1 km detection nerf as well. that was never mentioned in the patch notes, btw. i mean, torpedoes are the main and most of the time only means to do any damage and they can only hit BBs and CVs. with all these nerfs how am i supposed to play a ship i considered most fun of them all? what has Asashio going on for it now?

WG shafted so many of the ships I loved that I don't even bother anymore. But things will get better. I started grinding the Soviet BBs and am looking forward to the new Soviet ships :)

 

EDIT:

I see you made a booboo :)

 

If you can't beat them ... join them :)

[66Schwifty]

6 minutes ago, Odo_Toothless said:

Nope. It was 0.9 km from the start. From Little Mouse review:

 

http://shipcomrade.com/?p=799  Asashio’s fish are only spotted at a range of 0.9km

if this is true i am retarded. but i'd swear that the detection range was 0.8 km. i don't know what to say. perhaps i should stop drinking. or start drinking more..

[Capra76]

12 minutes ago, Aixin said:

Well it's all for bb community:) 

 

Who then start whining about static gameplay and HE spam whilst missing the connections.

[Odo_Toothless]

8 minutes ago, iTchyfoot said:

 but i'd swear that the detection range was 0.8 km

No Sir. I have Asashio a long time. And her torps was always different then Asian ones. In reality 0.8 s vs 0.9 s is nothing. You just cant avoid even those 20 km torps without acceleration in huge BB.

 

You can always look at reviews at youtube.

[Aixin]

Vor 55 Minuten, Capra76 sagte:

 

Who then start whining about static gameplay and HE spam whilst missing the connections.

Problably:) 

 

Also as it fits quite well....nothing was changed about the torp detection only that module:) I just took it for a ride and magically encountered one with the new module...threw my torps perfect at 6km and at 2km from my point of view he started dodging. I dont think this module was a good idea but still wont use it as concealmeant is way better.

[Aschwell]

Asashio was a shitty design that should have never been added to the game in the first place.

 

I got it gifted and tried it and played a couple of times, if you don´t have any BB or (CV) to torp you run around like a complete fool since it´s not the best gunboat.

Bad game design and bad for you just being able to punish a certain class.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 hour ago, nambr9 said:

Oh that ... :) Yeaaaah.

 

Another DD nerf coming really soon in a form of Soviet Cruisers.

When in the last year did DDs not receive a direct shaft?

 

A bent shaft would not get you much anywhere.

 

Thank you for your understanding.

[Sir_Grzegorz]

1 hour ago, iTchyfoot said:

a ship i considered most fun of them all

definitely you should stop drinking that much ;)

 

I like how you have taken a time to check what you are saying before making post showing your ignorance, much appreciated.

[MrWastee]

25 minutes ago, Aschwell said:

Asashio was a shitty design that should have never been added to the game in the first place.

 

I got it gifted and tried it and played a couple of times, if you don´t have any BB or (CV) to torp you run around like a complete fool since it´s not the best gunboat.

Bad game design and bad for you just being able to punish a certain class.

sry, but that's not right! true, speshul dwt's. true, not a gunboat by design. but far from being helpless with that HE alpha.... guns do hit hard, never underestimate ijn dd peas! imo one of the most effective dd's out there, and if only by concealment ;).

on a note: just recently i bullied a charles martel on half hp and gunned him down...

[RenamedUser_92906789]

Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

A bent shaft would not get you much anywhere.

 

Thank you for your understanding.

 

 

 

[albin322]

1 hour ago, iTchyfoot said:

dear WeeGee,

 

first of all i want to say that if this is intended and not a bug i will 100% ask for my money back.

 

now, why in the hell did you nerf Asashio's torps? and where was it in the patch notes? for those of you that don't know what the hell i'm talking about -

 

 

the torpedo detection is now 0.9 km. used to be 0.8 km. before anyone asks, i do use the new Torpedo Tubes Modification 1 upgrade (third slot) that increases the speed of torpedoes by 5%. so why was it so important to nerf the torps on Asashio? btw, Yueyang's torpedoes are the same as before, 0.8 km detection range with the same TTM1 upgrade, so the upgrade itself doesn't affect spotting distance (just comparing deepwater torpedoes).

 

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and then there's the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade that makes all torps visible at 1.8 km. now i get that CCs and YouTubers say that the Concealment module is still better to take on a BB, but players that are annoyed by sneaky fishes are going to use it. i know a couple of them. they care less about slightly lower visibility than torpedoes. so you put that in the game and let's be frank, you take away the main (and sometimes only) means for Asashio to do any significant damage and then you nerf it's torpedoes as well? without telling us about it? great job, WeeGee, great job..

you lie so mutch its always been 0,9 just cause you want your money back you noob.

[HaachamaShipping]

1 hour ago, iTchyfoot said:

and then there's the new Torpedo Lookout System upgrade that makes all torps visible at 1.8 km. now i get that CCs and YouTubers say that the Concealment module is still better to take on a BB, but players that are annoyed by sneaky fishes are going to use it. i know a couple of them. they care less about slightly lower visibility than torpedoes. so you put that in the game and let's be frank, you take away the main (and sometimes only) means for Asashio to do any significant damage and then you nerf it's torpedoes as well? without telling us about it? great job, WeeGee, great job..

According to a great many Asashio players, the Asashio has very powerful guns and great concealment that allow it to be more than just its torps. A great many Asashio players told me I'm just a hateful noob that does not understand the power of these guns that killed a great many DDs and cruisers and makes it easy to win such engagements still and not just a one-trick pony. Who am I thus to question them, so I guess you could use those insane guns and still do fine, no?

[Verblonde]

7 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

the Asashio has very powerful guns and great concealment that allow it to be more than just its torps.

Asashio's guns are decent, but I would stop a long way short of 'very powerful' - they're better than you would expect, but you're still going to get stomped by any self-respecting gunboat.

 

Concealment is class-leading, but then so is that of all the Kagero 'sisters'.

 

Basically, you play Asashio for the torps...

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

Asashio's guns are decent, but I would stop a long way short of 'very powerful' - they're better than you would expect, but you're still going to get stomped by any self-respecting gunboat.

 

Concealment is class-leading, but then so is that of all the Kagero 'sisters'.

 

Basically, you play Asashio for the torps...

Stop telling lies. Asashio unicums have told me, this is a very versatile ship, not aimed at the crowd of "special" DD players and being unable to hit certain ships with torps is no issue, because you can shoot good guns and spot for team. For years, whenever I said I'd rather play a versatile DD like Harekaze, you could bet some Asashio pro player would chastise my short-sightedness and tell me that I'm just wrong and they could kill DDs and cruisers with ease.

[Verblonde]

2 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

Stop telling lies.

I try to never tell pork pies.

 

3 minutes ago, Bunny_Lover_Kallen said:

For years, whenever I said I'd rather play a versatile DD like Harekaze, you could bet some Asashio pro player would chastise my short-sightedness and tell me that I'm just wrong and they could kill DDs and cruisers with ease.

Then they're idiots!

 

(Last time I could be bothered to check, Asashio was my most played ship, but I suck so maybe I'm missing something)