Want to know why WG is adding so much new Russian stuff - RU Server player numbers down 30-35% since 2015!

[IanH755]

Hi all,

 

Graphic taken from NoZoupForYou's video about the state of WoWS 2020 -

 

 

The average daily player numbers for all servers since release in 3rd Quarter 2015 until 4th Quarter 2019 shows that the EU, ASIA and NA average daily player number are fairly stable with only a slight increase or decrease. However over that same time the RU average daily player number has dropped 30-35% so, to me at least, it's not hard to see why there has been an "unrequested" increase in Russian ships recently, both Premium and Tech-Tree.

 

What do you guys thing about those stats?

 

 

[ColonelPete]

That they drop since 2015 and we have 2020. If that is the reason, I would call it a slow reaction time...

[Lebedjev]

Fun fact.

Did you know, you can play IJN ship and live in EU ?

Crazy right ?

 

Or porn movie industry is higly dependant to slaughter house ?

It's true i have a graph to prove it.

[havaduck]

28 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

That they drop since 2015 and we have 2020. If that is the reason, I would call it a slow reaction time...

 

Fast reaction, slow thinking. Even slower to decide. Also probably a few losses of track of thought and starting over again.

 

"Even the Russians dont want to play this shitty bugriddled p2w show of a bias game anymore - what do?"

 

From left to right:

- Nerf Cruisers.

- Nerf Fires.

- Nerf DDs.

- Russian Choleracruisers.

- Nerf AA.

- Nerf Torps.

- Moar p2w.

- Nerf peasant HE.

- Legendary Module Treason.

 

...... many more this store got it all!

 

And everyone knows that those with " Conjunctivitis " are glutons that are not satisfied with just one bag of munchies ......

[ColonelPete]

3 minutes ago, havaduck said:

 

Fast reaction, slow thinking. Even slower to decide. Also probably a few losses of track of thought and starting over again.

 

From left to right:

- Nerf Cruisers.

- Nerf Fires.

- Nerf DDs.

- Russian Choleracruisers.

- Nerf AA.

- Nerf Torps.

- Moar p2w.

- Nerf peasant HE.

- Legendary Module Treason.

What has this to do with RU player numbers? Especially since the first two RU lines were DD and cruisers...

 

Btw. according to the graph the player numbers on the RU server went down around 5% the last two years. If the graph is even right, since we cannot check the source.

[Azalgor]

When this game went live it met the crybabies, and the roll downhills began. Fun that the russians were the only ones to actually quit, not cry about how poor the game has become.

Pretty much why we get all the overpriced ship bundles and early promises broken: no TX premiums, no submarines...developers are desperate, clear as that.

[Sybeck]

So when there were fewer Soviet ships there were more Russian players; there's a thought to ponder. 

 

Maybe an evil capitalist would call it an over supplied market leading to diminishing returns. 

[MadBadDave]

Further Bias evidence, if any more were needed.

 

In relation to Sybeck's post; maybe the Russians actually like to play with REAL ships, from navies that did something during the second world war, and not OP Russian paper ships, History it's a night mare ;-).

 

What I don't understand is; instead of insisting on a hugely inflated 35k dabs for PR, during a near impossible grind, thereby limiting profits, for that you could've got the Graf, Massa and Asashio and still have change, make sense to anyone ?.

[ColonelPete]

4 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Further Bias evidence, if any more were needed.

 

What I don't understand is; instead of insisting on a hugely inflated 35k dabs for PR, during a near impossible grind, thereby limiting profits, for that you could've got the Graf, Massa and Asashio and still have change, make sense to anyone ?.

Not under normal circumstances. Part of the WoWs playerbase just shrugged and pulled out their credit card. From the looks of it, WG made a lot of money last christmas.

[MementoMori_6030]

 

Vor 19 Minuten, Azalgor sagte:

Fun that the russians were the only ones to actually quit

Quit? No! They were sent to Gulag for playing glorious Russian navy projects for less than 50 hours a day!

[ZoidFile]

I would argue that there are actually quite a lot of Wehraboos in the Russian community . So flooding the game with random Russian content might not be as effective as WG thinks it is.

[MadBadDave]

I know a few have said it, but forget op paper Russians, just like the Russians have 😏, and concentrate on the historical real ships, eg where’s Royal Sovereign ?, will subs be coming, we all know Russian Cvs will be Op even before their released, How many Russians can name one Ru cv that sailed in world war 2 ??.   Could we please have PT boats instead, maybe we could ask it’s RU fan base what they prefer; Mickey Mouse nonexistent Russian cvs or PT botes, you could even have Kennedy as a legendary skipper.   Imagine a 3 ship pt bote division; camping would be more fun 😉. 

[kfa]

Those numbers look wrong. Eu started with 50k playerbase after the beta and since then decreased a lot but around christmas/new year we still have 40k players daily (every year, stable). 

 

Last time i checked the live server data couple of month ago... 

[ColonelPete]

9 minutes ago, kfa said:

Those numbers look wrong. Eu started with 50k playerbase after the beta and since then decreased a lot but around christmas/new year we still have 40k players daily (every year, stable). 

 

Last time i checked the live server data couple of month ago... 

That is supposed to be the daily average (average players online during the day).

But we do not know where the numbers are from and I am not sure that such an average is a good metric.

[Flock_Undead]

2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

That is supposed to be the daily average (average players online during the day).

But we do not know where the numbers are from and I am not sure that such an average is a good metric.

What would be a good metric to evaluate the games active playerbase in your opinion ?

[ColonelPete]

8 minutes ago, Flock_Undead said:

What would be a good metric to evaluate the games active playerbase in your opinion ?

A player is counted when he is online at the time of measuring. Even he goes off shortly after, idles in port or plays a match.

Battle numbers would be a better number, as this represents player activity.

 

Additionally income per server would be a nice metric, but we will never get that.

[Flock_Undead]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

A player is counted when he is online at the time of measuring. Even he goes off shortly after, idles in port or plays a match.

Battle numbers would be a better number, as this represents player activity.

 

Additionally income per server would be a nice metric, but we will never get that.

You cant really narrow down Battles vs Players, you can be 1 person playing 5k games a month, and therefore completely throwing off the ratio.

This really makes way less sense than the login-measurement.

[ColonelPete]

Just now, Flock_Undead said:

You cant really narrow down Battles vs Players, you can be 1 person playing 5k games a month, and therefore completely throwing off the ratio.

This really makes way less sense than the login-measurement.

But it does, since you are active and fill the matches.

1000 players, who play each 100 matches per month are more important for the game than 2000 playes who each play only 10 matches per month. The first group generates more activity and fills more matches. Involved players probably spend more money too.

[veslingr]

2 hours ago, IanH755 said:

Hi all,

 

Graphic taken from NoZoupForYou's video about the state of WoWS 2020 -

 

 

The average daily player numbers for all servers since release in 3rd Quarter 2015 until 4th Quarter 2019 shows that the EU, ASIA and NA average daily player number are fairly stable with only a slight increase or decrease. However over that same time the RU average daily player number has dropped 30-35% so, to me at least, it's not hard to see why there has been an "unrequested" increase in Russian ships recently, both Premium and Tech-Tree.

 

What do you guys thing about those stats?

 

 

Another YT messiah:) 

 

So they waited for 5 years before implementing this evils plan to bring back RU players :)

[Flock_Undead]

5 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

But it does, since you are active and fill the matches.

1000 players, who play each 100 matches per month are more important for the game than 2000 playes who each play only 10 matches per month. The first group generates more activity and fills more matches. Involved players probably spend more money too.

I mean yes,  1000x100 is 100.000 while 2000x 10 equals 20.000, ofc they are more important.

 

Its really important to remember, that activity over variety is important.

Other games that i played may be active, but you always met the same people, which made gameplay stale.

 

To come back to your comparison.

 

1000 players playing 10 games, or 10 players playing 1000 games is the same in the end, at least in your statistic.

 

[ZoidFile]

30 minutes ago, veslingr said:

Another YT messiah:) 

 

So they waited for 5 years before implementing this evils plan to bring back RU players :)

You know that content does not come into existence in the wink of an eye? Those cruisers have probably been in development for over a year. If you consider the RU BBs as well we can assume that WG started "reacting" like 3 years ago.

[veslingr]

Just now, ZoidFile said:

You know that content does not come into existence in the wink of an eye? Those cruisers have probably in development for over a year. If you consider the RU BBs as well we can assume that WG started "reacting" like 3 years ago.

They develop ships over a year while they base them on ship that is in game for almost 2 year - Stalingrad....I do not see much sense. 

[ZoidFile]

1 minute ago, veslingr said:

They develop ships over a year while they base them on ship that is in game for almost 2 year - Stalingrad....I do not see much sense. 

What's there not to understand?

[veslingr]

Just now, ZoidFile said:

What's there not to understand?

They have finished hull for 2 ships. Why do you think they need over a year of them?

[Shaka_D]

Come on chaps, give the Russians a break will you, we all know their real life ships are impotent as blazes, so let them have a few make believe ones. Be nice....come, all with me now......it's only a game...wooohooooo