Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #1 Posted February 10, 2020 Hai , I have unlocked tier 6 Russian bb .I swear to God , IzmaiL is like the most OP T6 out there if you angle properly, and with 12 shells with super accuracy , you murder any BB or cruisers. I did 20k penetration to queen elizabeth because she showed cits . Russian bb is very based and high class bb lololol ... Anywayz my captain is 10 skill points . Should I go with concealment or fire prevention skill ? I have so far chosen Priority target, Adrenaline rush , Superintendent . Also if Expert marksman worth it . Regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #2 Posted February 10, 2020 Fire prevention, take ce on 14pt, EM yes at 16 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #3 Posted February 10, 2020 When you have trouble with fire, take prevention. If not, then you do not need it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAD-F] Sir_Grzegorz Beta Tester 798 posts 16,110 battles Report post #4 Posted February 10, 2020 As @Yedwy stated. Yes, take it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #5 Posted February 10, 2020 With so many HE spammers in-game now it's a useful skill for a BB to have. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #6 Posted February 10, 2020 Thanks a lot :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R7S] lovelacebeer Players 4,158 posts 25,226 battles Report post #7 Posted February 10, 2020 I certainly would recommend fire prevention considering how much HE spam there is these days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #8 Posted February 10, 2020 You might be thinking "I'm rarely on 3-4 fires anyway, so why bother?". The reason is simple - other than the fact that it also increases your fire resistance, the way fires work is that without FP, you can get 1 fire on the bow, two in the middle, and one on the stern. With FP, you can only get one fire in the middle, which is where most people will be hitting you, so it does make for a big difference. You will also want BoS and SI on your bb tank build. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PIKES] neorvo Players 606 posts 16,963 battles Report post #9 Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain_Newman said: You might be thinking "I'm rarely on 3-4 fires anyway, so why bother?". The reason is simple - other than the fact that it also increases your fire resistance, the way fires work is that without FP, you can get 1 fire on the bow, two in the middle, and one on the stern. With FP, you can only get one fire in the middle, which is where most people will be hitting you, so it does make for a big difference. You will also want BoS and SI on your bb tank build. And using this topic for an opposite question, what is the ship with more potential for producing fires? At this moment I am wondering if it is Tirpitz, Fire per salvo, nor DPM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[INTRO] Hanse77SWE Players 1,518 posts 28,995 battles Report post #10 Posted February 10, 2020 And with the russian BBs with the limited Dam. Con. it's veeeeery good to have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #11 Posted February 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, neorvo said: At this moment I am wondering if it is Tirpitz Always an issue when you take a ship like Bismark or Tirpitz that gets focused on with HE, when both ships revolve around building the secondary gun strength. You can't do that and take the best fire prevention skills as well. I wish Wargaming would increase the skill points you can take for a captain. Maybe increase the skill points from 19 to 26. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #12 Posted February 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lord_of_the_manor said: Maybe increase the skill points from 19 to 26. based Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #13 Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: based Well it would mean if a captain has 26pt and not 19pt. That ships like Bismark , Tirpz, GK and such - can do full secondary build and still able to take the 4 and 3 point Fire prevention skills as well. Instead of having to pick between one or the other on a ship that revolves mainly around secondary gun build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genosse Players 460 posts 6,789 battles Report post #14 Posted February 10, 2020 It's part of the standard BB survivability build, that I run on 90 % of my BBs and on some super heavy cruisers. So yes, it's worth it, in my opinion, because you gain twofold: Less chances to catch a fire in general, and one fire less in total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P7S] Vbeest Players 452 posts Report post #15 Posted February 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: Hai , I have unlocked tier 6 Russian bb .I swear to God , IzmaiL is like the most OP T6 out there if you angle properly, and with 12 shells with super accuracy , you murder any BB or cruisers. I did 20k penetration to queen elizabeth because she showed cits . Russian bb is very based and high class bb lololol ... Anywayz my captain is 10 skill points . Should I go with concealment or fire prevention skill ? I have so far chosen Priority target, Adrenaline rush , Superintendent . Also if Expert marksman worth it . Regards I will also add, it has AA that would be quite OK even at tier 8... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #16 Posted February 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, Lord_of_the_manor said: I wish Wargaming would increase the skill points you can take for a captain. Maybe increase the skill points from 19 to 26. Favours certain ships too much, while giving others nothing in return. F.e. most Heavy Cruisers dont even need 19 pts, and most BBs with bad secondaries wont profit either really. On the other hand, Small caliber gunboat DDs/CLs and secondary BBs would get too much out of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #17 Posted February 10, 2020 Not sure how you can say that. There is always extra skills for all ships types that come in usefull. For instance some Cruisers don't burn easy so can make use of those extra 7 points on things like extra HE boost, or taking IFHE and Advanced Fire Training - and still able to take concealment with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #18 Posted February 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: Hai , I have unlocked tier 6 Russian bb .I swear to God , IzmaiL is like the most OP T6 out there if you angle properly, and with 12 shells with super accuracy , you murder any BB or cruisers. I did 20k penetration to queen elizabeth because she showed cits . Russian bb is very based and high class bb lololol ... Anywayz my captain is 10 skill points . Should I go with concealment or fire prevention skill ? I have so far chosen Priority target, Adrenaline rush , Superintendent . Also if Expert marksman worth it . Regards Weeel, I guess the answer to that question would mainly depend on how much you enjoy being the BBQ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #19 Posted February 10, 2020 More points would mean you unlock 2 much, this was there is compromise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #20 Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lord_of_the_manor said: Not sure how you can say that. There is always extra skills for all ships types that come in usefull. For instance some Cruisers don't burn easy so can make use of those extra 7 points on things like extra HE boost, or taking IFHE and Advanced Fire Training - and still able to take concealment with it. Lets take Smolensk f.e. It profits heavily from those skills: - CE, IFHE, AFT, BFT, SI, DE, SE + obviously couple of 1+2 pointers. AFT and BFT directly affect the offensive capabilities, while for most other Cruisers, it doesnt do anything (except buffing AA, which cant be compared). But since we have only 19 pts, you have to choose what build you want to run. While CLs atleast profit from IFHE, CAs dont. Most offensive captain perks are better for small caliber guns and most defensive perks are better for BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #21 Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yedwy said: More points would mean you unlock 2 much, this was there is compromise The reason why I mentioned upping skill points from 19 to 26. There has been a vast increase with HE cruisers in the game for sale, and ships like Bismark, Tirpz and even GK are struggling more now because they are just HE magnets to those Cruisers that know they'll tend to go for a full secondary gun build first. Playing ships like them has become a lot less fun because of it. And if you take all the fire prevention skills on ships like them - that are best for their full secondary gun build. What is the point of even using them ships nowadays with all the HE spamming going on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #22 Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord_of_the_manor said: What is the point of even using them ships nowadays with all the HE spamming going on? Dont play them as secondary build? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #23 Posted February 10, 2020 Then there is no point even getting them ships. Might as well just remove them from the game. Because anyone that gets a Bismark, Tirpz, GK, Matty, etc. Is only getting them for one reason. The secondary guns build. Otherwise, you might as well go for other ships with crappy secondary but having better main guns - and stick full fire prevention on them instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #24 Posted February 10, 2020 Oh yes there is, besides all the way up to T9/10 sec build is still ok-ish on germans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #25 Posted February 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lord_of_the_manor said: Then there is no point even getting them ships. Might as well just remove them from the game. Because anyone that gets a Bismark, Tirpz, GK, Matty, etc. Is only getting them for one reason. The secondary guns build. Otherwise, you might as well go for other ships with crappy secondary but having better main guns - and stick full fire prevention on them instead. I dont think thats true. Ive had great success playing Tank GK. It can push against any opponent because of its armor scheme or thanks to hydro. Kremlin might be closest to do the same job, but it doesnt come with hydro (stationary BB is asking to get torped btw) and in a brawl it actually has a citadel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
