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Blyskawica Verdict? Worth Some Coal?

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Hi guys,

 

Not a whole lot left in the armory for cheap amounts of coal. There's a massive jump in resource requirements for the next cheapest ship after some T5 Russian BB. It can be used in T7 Ops which is a good thing I suppose, for grinding credits and ticking some mission boxes for events etc so it's got that going for it plus I guess it's pretty cheap tbh. On the other hand it's from the Europe "brance" of ships so... kinda only useless really so far as grinding a commander goes it would pretty much only for this ship so far as I can see. I suppose that would be ok if the ship itself was a respectably solid DD. So how is and is it worth it's coal value?

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Nope. After the MM changes T7 uptiers all the time and Blyska is worthless when she has to fight T8+.

Bad concealment and sluggish ruder make it a free XP pinata.

Save your coal.

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She's a strong gunboat with effective, quick reloading torpedoes. Most reviews will go on and on about smoke firing and ancient history - the correct response to this, I believe, is "OK Boomer". You will, however, need to push some resources towards training up her skipper, as her concealment is awful until you have a 10pt captain.

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As far as I can tell, after the stealthfire removal (which was a looong time ago) it really lost its edge. Nowadays it is an ok to average tier 7 DD, nothing special. It does come with the future benefit however as a crew trainer for the incoming European (cough Swedish DD's cough) DD's if you don't have 1 million free XP lying around for a Friesland. 

 

So that is my vague take on it. It is not that expensive coal wise but I do think that a Friesland is a better option if you want a crew trainer. Other than that Im certain you have better silver variants at tier 7.

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She is a good ship, but not easy to play. She is spotted early. You need to know what you are doing with her.

 

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I have her.  Paid money.  She's OK.

There are many spectacular ships available previously only for steel coming to coal soon.  I'd not buy this ship because you have nothing else to spend your coal on right now

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I have her, I like her (we are both Polish:cap_haloween:) but I do not recommend her in current meta unless you are very good with DDs and you have some elite captain XP to invest in her.

Otherwise it will be frustrating for you.

 

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it was a superb ship back in the day when stealth fire was a thing!

but now?

not really. its a piece of crap. heavily nurfed by stealth fire removal plus it got power creeped to the point that its easy meal for regular tech tree destroyers.

it is not worth any coal. it is not even worth any silver currency (if that was an option)

the only worth of getting Blyskavica ship is if you are a hardcore Poland patriot and you just want a harbor souvenir that you will never take in to actual battle.

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2 hours ago, Sir_Sinksalot said:

So how is and is it worth it's coal value?

I paid money for mine, ages ago; from the point of view of this average to sub-average player, she's okay but not great.

 

There are far worse options at the tier, but she absolutely needs a 10 point captain (I didn't have one early on and no CE makes her very hard work), ideally more, and - IMO obviously - she's been rather eclipsed by newer releases, especially Haida and Z-39.

 

Also, bear in mind she's a hopeless trainer at the moment, although that may not always be the case, with the upcoming Ikea DD line (we don't know if the ideal captain build will overlap yet though).

 

Overall, she's a fun gunboat with usable torps, but (as others have said), there are a bunch of new coal ships in the pipeline. My suggestion would be to keep saving your coal and, if you feel the urge for newness, knock off the ARP missions...

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This guy is very good at breaking down the pros and cons of the ship he plays. What he is doing and why. Very hands down useful tips and tactics. He recently made this with the blyska. 

I like the ship even though its hard to play in the current line ups. 

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 I have it but havn,t played it much (not part of a big enough tech tree to be an intersting premium), to me it seems better to save the coal for a greater prize and if you want a tier 7 DD just grind a tech tree ship

 

Many Blyskas I see ingame seem to lack the skill for tier 7, guess they read the text here where all seems to be great about it 

 

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No there are several tech tree ships that are better and at tier 8-9 its just rubbish

 

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I had fun playing her in co-ops . It is beautiful ship and recently she received a new camo. Buy it by doobloons (it is not expensive) and keep you coal for higher tier ships.:Smile_child:

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I got her soon after she appeared in the armory for coal and I like her very much. However, as others have already pointed out, she has been powercrept pretty hard. Concealment is amongst the worst at tier 7 and her maneuverability is awful (both remnants of the old days). You need at least a 10 pint captain with Concealmnet Expert on her, imo, to make her workable in randoms. Gun DPM is alright, but nothing special (roughly on par with Vauquelin without reload booster). HP is also somewhere in the middle of the pack.

On the other hand, she has good alpha damage and the guns have surprisingly good ballistics and after the recent buffs, the firing arcs are a lot less akward than before. Torpedoes are on the slow side, but reload quickly and do decent damage. She is also the third fastest DD (base speed) at t7, only behind Minsk and Leningrad.

She does quite well in Narai where she can citadel cruisers and her fast reloading torps help as well (can't talk about coop, haven't played her in that).

She also gets bonus points for me for actually existing and looking great.

Overall, she can be tons of fun, but I would suggest getting her only when you are an experienced DD player, since her handling and concealment disadvantages can be quite hard to play around. For me, she was worth the coal, but that you have to decide on your own.

 

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Blys was one of my first Premium ships and back then with probably only IJN and US DDs I find herjhaving a own niche.As this was the age before accumulating Elite XP and inflation in flags I grinded her captain painfully to 14 pts. However in those days I think the captain points even in higher tiers were more kind as the number of player distribution of veterans etc were more even. Noone could afford to have good captains on all ships, and the nonexistence of elite xp meant you have to grind.

 

My games are most from that old period. I have taken her out very seldom not that I find her boring or bad but i grind new ships. 

The tech tree Swedish DDs will make me play the ship more in coop together with Friesland. I do not play ships without 10 p captains in random anymore except the lowest tiers or by mistake. I have no EU captains in store and as a Swede I do not want to use Dutch, A_H, or Polish captain names assigned to Swedish ships. So My captains on V-U, Friesland and Blys will stay as they are until Silver lines will come. But I will use them as training ships in coop.

If you will follow my example or are a collector with nothing to spend on, well I will not say she is a bad ship, average sort of. But as other said she needs a good captain.

 

But as the 3 steel ships are returning to the game in the future, not earlier than 6 months , from their pull back and maybe distributed from time to time. Think a little overall on the alternatives, French DD for coal, 3 steel ships the other coal ships, there are plenty to spend on now and in the future. But the new Pan -EU tech tree has ofc increased her attractiveness, Friesland has no torps so Blys aligns in that sense more with the Swedish (+1 A_H)  DDs.

 

I am counting on more DD lines presumably Dutch alone or together wilh Poland, so as a long term strategic captain retrainer why not? 

 

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Used to be great, now its just powercrept to hell and back. On top of that tier 7 kinda lost its semi preferential MM, so you will be uptiered. A lot. And 6.8km concealment against tier 8+ destroyers is... you don't. You just don't.

 

Also you'd need healthy dose of Free Exp/Elite Commander Exp to give captain at least CE from get go.

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Yes, I bought both Aigle and Blys for the reason that they are rather cheap in coal and ok to play. But mostly because I was going to buy Xmas crates and wanted to prevent getting any cheap coal ships as a dropreward. Buying the ships and the October Revolution atleast prevent WG gifting you a ship that could be earned free by coal.

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3 hours ago, BruceRKF said:

She is also the third fastest DD (base speed) at t7, only behind Minsk and Leningrad.

Get the speed flag and she does 41 knots, with the Speed Boost on top of that you're hitting Russian and French speeds of around 44kts. They improved the firing angles so you can keep spitting out torpedoes while zooming away. I like the ship (bought for cash) - would probably recommend her over the Leningrad if you're prepared to put the effort in with the captain.

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I'm enjoying her, IFHE and slam those cruisers and lower tier BBs. The downside is capping and dealing with CV. I'm hoping WG will add the post war hull with dual purpose main guns. Polish Akizuki :Smile_izmena:

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13 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

I'm enjoying her, IFHE and slam those cruisers and lower tier BBs. The downside is capping and dealing with CV. I'm hoping WG will add the post war hull with dual purpose main guns. Polish Akizuki :Smile_izmena:

DP guns is a 1941 modification (8 x 102 mm). After war it was  changed into Russian DP 100 mm guns.

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I got it because it has history. I also leveled the captain to 14 so it has ifhe and CE. Play it like a Russian gunboat that can stealth torp. There are much better tech tree tier 7s of you really want a good DD. Gadjah Mada especially solid, as are all the Pan Asian DDs to Tier 10.

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7 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said:

How is Blyskavyska in narai btw?

Serviceable. Still better off with Jervis or Gadjah, as they have similar dakka and 10 fishes instead 6 for initial Missouri blap. Also more useful, quicker reloading smokes

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Can be fun, but as the broken cv class is destroying 50%-75% of the current randoms, I would avoid DD's be it coal or real money premuims. Spend the coal on something else.

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5 hours ago, Vbeest said:

DP guns is a 1941 modification (8 x 102 mm). After war it was  changed into Russian DP 100 mm guns.

Yep I mean the 100mm ones. Would be nice to see it. 

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