Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #1 Posted February 7, 2020 Hai I unlocked kongo yesterday . Its a nice ship I mean that shooting range of her main battery guns are just truly amazeballs . But I am unable to score victories consistently . Is 58k damage / battle good ? My max damage was 120k . How can I improve my victory rate ? Your inputs are greatly appreciated Much obliged.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #2 Posted February 7, 2020 58k average on it is ok/good. See your stats on wows numbers. Sometimes dispersion is crazy, don't shoot above 18km playing the Kongo unless it's stationary CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #3 Posted February 7, 2020 This is an old video form Flamu, but it might still be helpfull, at least gameplay wise. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #4 Posted February 7, 2020 I can't be sure without actually seeing some replays, but by these numbers I'd say you're doing decently, especially since you appear to be quite new (actually with your amount of battles you're doing better than most). Based on the fact I don't see a clan tag next to your name, let me guess - you didn't play in a division, but instead went into randoms alone? A single BB will struggle to carry a lot of the time. Find yourself a decent clan with good players to divison with, and watch that WR go up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #5 Posted February 7, 2020 you are doing fine, i dont know your kill ratio, but the wins will come if you're doing meaningful dmg. MM can always upset u off course, I blew my lid off rn in a game after a hiatus and almost had an aneurysm. I tried to control myself but I couldn't in the end. If you can take a loss and keep yr cool wins will come. Cheers o7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #6 Posted February 7, 2020 Yeah, just like they said... You have still such a small number of games played, it is very possible that you are doing nothing wrong at all. If you still have a low winrate after a 1000 more battles, then perhaps we should look at your stats and a replay to see what's happening there. But for now, just keep playing and learn and it will improve. painfully slowly, of course, but no worries. Right now you have such a small number of battles played as to be statistically insignificant, so it is way too early to be concerned about WR right now. Oh yeah and since you are now playing tier 5 and have exited the protected MM you enjoyed before. You will now be facing "real" players and +2 higher tier ships, many of whom are also more experienced than you. This is the time most of us have to swallow a whole bitter can of whoopa*ss anyways, but it will pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #7 Posted February 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said: 58k average on it is ok/good. See your stats on wows numbers. Sometimes dispersion is crazy, don't shoot above 18km playing the Kongo unless it's stationary CV. Thanks for your input So you are you implying that I gotta shoot HE at broadside bb/cruisers beyond 18km ? Is that like rule of thumb for IJN bb at this tier ? 16 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said: let me guess - you didn't play in a division, but instead went into randoms alone? A single BB will struggle to carry a lot of the time. Find yourself a decent clan with good players to divison with, and watch that WR go up. Yeah its just randoms for now I dm some of players but they are too shy to play in div kek .Also I have heard of some unicum players who could sink you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with their bare hull . 5 minutes ago, lossi_2018 said: If you can take a loss and keep yr cool wins will come AYYYYY SHOW ME YOUR CITS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #8 Posted February 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, RAHJAILARI said: Yeah, just like they said... You have still such a small number of games played, it is very possible that you are doing nothing wrong at all. If you still have a low winrate after a 1000 more battles, then perhaps we should look at your stats and a replay to see what's happening there. But for now, just keep playing and learn and it will improve. painfully slowly, of course, but no worries. Right now you have such a small number of battles played as to be statistically insignificant, so it is way too early to be concerned about WR right now. This is a very gold tier input . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #9 Posted February 7, 2020 I smell a troll, this looks like a reroll, or he had incredible luck from start. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #10 Posted February 7, 2020 16 minuti fa, Admiral_Oily_Discharge ha scritto: So you are you implying that I gotta shoot HE at broadside bb/cruisers beyond 18km ? Is that like rule of thumb for IJN bb at this tier ? Just don't use HE with battleships, unless its a British BB, just stick with AP. HE is really good against DDs and bow-on BBs but due to the long reload it's better to just use AP, plus 356mm can overmatch (penetrate regardless of angling) any tier 5 BB bow and stern except for the Pyotr Velikiy. You can shoot at 20+ km with Kongo, but the problem is that at thos ranges the dispersion is very RNG, sometimes you get good slavos and other times you don't hit anything. I also suggest you to watch a lot of CC videos about How to play, tutorials an guides. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_TWT_] ___ax___ [_TWT_] Players 97 posts 4,100 battles Report post #11 Posted February 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: I smell a troll, this looks like a reroll, or he had incredible luck from start. or maybe he is one of the rare ones who actually use their brains and manages to do better than average noobs? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #12 Posted February 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: I smell a troll, this looks like a reroll 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #13 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: Thanks for your input So you are you implying that I gotta shoot HE at broadside bb/cruisers beyond 18km ? Is that like rule of thumb for IJN bb at this tier ? Nah I meant not shooting at all on 19-20 km range cause you miss your target. The dispersion is huge if your aim a bit wrong when the target is moving and changing speed. It's not Izumo with 2.0 sigma, I think Kongo has 1.6 sigma only. So can't hit stuff as Izumo on 18km+. Same story with Fuso having 12 guns but 1.5 sigma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #14 Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Lieut_Gruber said: I smell a troll, this looks like a reroll I hereby coin a phrase "retroll" (c) 2020 Newman Industries ltd. Also doubting OP is one, stats aren't quite on usual reroll levels, so you probably just paid him a compliment 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #15 Posted February 7, 2020 2 minuti fa, MacArthur92 ha scritto: Nah I meant not shooting at all cause you miss your target. The dispersion in huge of your son a bit wrong written something is moving. It's not Izumo with 2.0 sigma, I think Kongo has 1.6 sigma only. So can't hit stuff as Izumo on 18km+. Same story with Fuso having 12 guns but 1.5 sigma. Kongo has 1.8 sigma. The problem is that that sigma value is so cursed. Sigma values of the tech tree battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Kawachi 1.8 South Carolina 1.9 Nassau 1.8 Bellerophon 1.8 Turenne 1.8 Knyaz Suvorov 1.5 Myogi 2.0 Wyoming 1.5 Kaiser 1.8 Orion 1.6 Courbet 1.8 Gangut 1.4 Kongo 1.8 New York 1.8 König 1.8 Iron Duke 1.8 Bretagne 1.8 Pyotr Velikiy 1.7 Fuso 1.5 New Mexico 1.5 Bayern 1.8 Queen Elizabeth 2.0 Normandie 1.6 Izmail 1.7 Nagato 2.0 Colorado 2.0 Gneisenau 1.8 King George V 1.8 Lyon 1.5 Sinop 1.7 Amagi 1.8 North Carolina 2.0 Bismarck 1.8 Monarch 1.8 Richelieu 1.8 Vladivostok 1.7 Izumo 2.0 Iowa 1.9 Friedrich der Große 1.8 Lion 1.8 Alsace 1.6 Sovetsky Soyuz 1.7 Yamato 2.1 Montana 1.9 Großer Kurfürst 1.8 Conqueror 1.8 Republique 2.0 Kreml 1.9 Sigma values of the premium battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Mikasa 1.8 Arkansas Beta 1.5 König Albert 1.8 Dreadnought 1.8 Dunkerque 1.7 Imperator Nikolai I 2.0 Ishizuchi 2.0 Texas 1.8 Prinz Eitel Friedrich 2.0 Warspite 2.0 Gascogne 1.9 Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya 1.8 Mutsu 1.8 Arizona 1.8 Scharnhorst 2.0 Duke of York 1.8 Jean Bart 1.9 Lenin 1.7 Ashitaka 1.8 W. Virginia 1941 1.8 Tirpitz 1.8 Hood 1.9 Bourgogne 1.8 Kii 1.7 Alabama 1.9 Nelson 1.9 Musashi 1.8 Massachusetts 1.7 Vanguard 2.0 Missouri 1.9 Thunderer 2.0 Viribus Unitis 1.8 Georgia 1.8 Giulio Cesare 1.9 Ohio 2.0 Roma 1.8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #16 Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, wot_2016_gunner said: Kongo has 1.8 sigma. The problem is that that sigma value is so cursed. Sigma values of the tech tree battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Kawachi 1.8 South Carolina 1.9 Nassau 1.8 Bellerophon 1.8 Turenne 1.8 Knyaz Suvorov 1.5 Myogi 2.0 Wyoming 1.5 Kaiser 1.8 Orion 1.6 Courbet 1.8 Gangut 1.4 Kongo 1.8 New York 1.8 König 1.8 Iron Duke 1.8 Bretagne 1.8 Pyotr Velikiy 1.7 Fuso 1.5 New Mexico 1.5 Bayern 1.8 Queen Elizabeth 2.0 Normandie 1.6 Izmail 1.7 Nagato 2.0 Colorado 2.0 Gneisenau 1.8 King George V 1.8 Lyon 1.5 Sinop 1.7 Amagi 1.8 North Carolina 2.0 Bismarck 1.8 Monarch 1.8 Richelieu 1.8 Vladivostok 1.7 Izumo 2.0 Iowa 1.9 Friedrich der Große 1.8 Lion 1.8 Alsace 1.6 Sovetsky Soyuz 1.7 Yamato 2.1 Montana 1.9 Großer Kurfürst 1.8 Conqueror 1.8 Republique 2.0 Kreml 1.9 Sigma values of the premium battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Mikasa 1.8 Arkansas Beta 1.5 König Albert 1.8 Dreadnought 1.8 Dunkerque 1.7 Imperator Nikolai I 2.0 Ishizuchi 2.0 Texas 1.8 Prinz Eitel Friedrich 2.0 Warspite 2.0 Gascogne 1.9 Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya 1.8 Mutsu 1.8 Arizona 1.8 Scharnhorst 2.0 Duke of York 1.8 Jean Bart 1.9 Lenin 1.7 Ashitaka 1.8 W. Virginia 1941 1.8 Tirpitz 1.8 Hood 1.9 Bourgogne 1.8 Kii 1.7 Alabama 1.9 Nelson 1.9 Musashi 1.8 Massachusetts 1.7 Vanguard 2.0 Missouri 1.9 Thunderer 2.0 Viribus Unitis 1.8 Georgia 1.8 Giulio Cesare 1.9 Ohio 2.0 Roma 1.8 Thank you very much for posting this . I understood this now :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #17 Posted February 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said: Kongo has 1.8 sigma. The problem is that that sigma value is so cursed. Sigma values of the tech tree battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Kawachi 1.8 South Carolina 1.9 Nassau 1.8 Bellerophon 1.8 Turenne 1.8 Knyaz Suvorov 1.5 Myogi 2.0 Wyoming 1.5 Kaiser 1.8 Orion 1.6 Courbet 1.8 Gangut 1.4 Kongo 1.8 New York 1.8 König 1.8 Iron Duke 1.8 Bretagne 1.8 Pyotr Velikiy 1.7 Fuso 1.5 New Mexico 1.5 Bayern 1.8 Queen Elizabeth 2.0 Normandie 1.6 Izmail 1.7 Nagato 2.0 Colorado 2.0 Gneisenau 1.8 King George V 1.8 Lyon 1.5 Sinop 1.7 Amagi 1.8 North Carolina 2.0 Bismarck 1.8 Monarch 1.8 Richelieu 1.8 Vladivostok 1.7 Izumo 2.0 Iowa 1.9 Friedrich der Große 1.8 Lion 1.8 Alsace 1.6 Sovetsky Soyuz 1.7 Yamato 2.1 Montana 1.9 Großer Kurfürst 1.8 Conqueror 1.8 Republique 2.0 Kreml 1.9 Sigma values of the premium battleships in WoWs IJN Sigma USN Sigma KM Sigma RN Sigma MN Sigma VMF Sigma Mikasa 1.8 Arkansas Beta 1.5 König Albert 1.8 Dreadnought 1.8 Dunkerque 1.7 Imperator Nikolai I 2.0 Ishizuchi 2.0 Texas 1.8 Prinz Eitel Friedrich 2.0 Warspite 2.0 Gascogne 1.9 Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya 1.8 Mutsu 1.8 Arizona 1.8 Scharnhorst 2.0 Duke of York 1.8 Jean Bart 1.9 Lenin 1.7 Ashitaka 1.8 W. Virginia 1941 1.8 Tirpitz 1.8 Hood 1.9 Bourgogne 1.8 Kii 1.7 Alabama 1.9 Nelson 1.9 Musashi 1.8 Massachusetts 1.7 Vanguard 2.0 Missouri 1.9 Thunderer 2.0 Viribus Unitis 1.8 Georgia 1.8 Giulio Cesare 1.9 Ohio 2.0 Roma 1.8 Izumo is 2.0 as it was buffed . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-URK-] wot_2016_gunner Players 2,588 posts 6,830 battles Report post #18 Posted February 7, 2020 @Admiral_Oily_Discharge Btw, sigma is the "tendency" of the shells to land closer towards the center of the dispersion ellipse. The higher it is, the more consistent the shells are, tho you might still have crap salvos even with high sigma and god salvos with low sigma. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #19 Posted February 8, 2020 14 hours ago, ___ax___ said: or maybe he is one of the rare ones who actually use their brains and manages to do better than average noobs? :) Well he is pretty rare then. Kawachi he does 45k average, ship average is 19k... Myogi, 76k average, ship average is 25k... Kongo 60k average, ship average is 33k... He beats the best players on those ships, i find it hard to believe he is new to the game. And then starting a topic like this.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] KillStealBoss Players 12,123 posts 62,187 battles Report post #20 Posted February 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: Well he is pretty rare then. Kawachi he does 45k average, ship average is 19k... Myogi, 76k average, ship average is 25k... Kongo 60k average, ship average is 33k... He beats the best players on those ships, i find it hard to believe he is new to the game. And then starting a topic like this.... People like this after they learn things - they become ultra unicuums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNDF] Lakaedemonios Players 286 posts 17,297 battles Report post #21 Posted February 8, 2020 16 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said: I smell a troll, this looks like a reroll, or he had incredible luck from start. he is a troll. Look how he get to T5. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_TWT_] ___ax___ [_TWT_] Players 97 posts 4,100 battles Report post #22 Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Lieut_Gruber said: Well he is pretty rare then. Kawachi he does 45k average, ship average is 19k... Myogi, 76k average, ship average is 25k... Kongo 60k average, ship average is 33k... He beats the best players on those ships, i find it hard to believe he is new to the game. And then starting a topic like this.... well... i have similar stats on my own kongo, but im just a bit above average player. and i still have no clue how i managed to do this, cuz rng on that ship is just crazy... how is one supposed to play kongo? :| 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RODS] Ronchabale Players 3,002 posts 10,002 battles Report post #23 Posted February 8, 2020 I call [edited] The stats dont lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Oily_Discharge Players 350 posts 5,465 battles Report post #24 Posted February 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Minos_of_Creta said: he is a troll. Look how he get to T5. what a literal sissy you gotta b to actually nitpick about the personality traits of newcomers that too with less than 100 battles ofcourse ... behind thar back lolololzzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HNDF] Lakaedemonios Players 286 posts 17,297 battles Report post #25 Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Admiral_Oily_Discharge said: what a literal sissy you gotta b to actually nitpick about the personality traits of newcomers that too with less than 100 battles ofcourse ... behind thar back lolololzzz Last August I began to teach the game to my grandson. He play many games with me beside him. I know what a newcomer is. Only someone who knows, goes strait in one single line and climb like u. simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
