Giulio Cesare

[LiveWire___]

I would quite like to own a rare ship. It seems that a number of them have been pulled permanently from sale.

 

I haven't heard whether or not this has happened with giulia cesare though. I like Italian ships, and would like to own GS. 

 

Can anyone tell me whether it's gone for good, or may / will be back up for sale at some point?

 

I got myself Viribus Unitis, as it seemed somewhat like GS. I am now fully aware it's not. Actually, I've had some fun in VU. It's not a bad ship, imho. 

 

I would still like a GS though.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

It will be availible next Christmas in Christmas containers as very rare loot. Those are expensive to buy and you cant aim to buy a specific ship. 

Basically gambling. 

[LiveWire___]

1 minute ago, Yoshanai said:

It will be availible next Christmas in Christmas containers as very rare loot. Those are expensive to buy and you cant aim to buy a specific ship. 

Basically gambling. 

Yeah, I got some christmas containers. No GS though. I understand that you have to own basically all premiums first to get a GS in a Santa crate drop.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Gerade eben, Thundercracker_3 sagte:

Yeah, I got some christmas containers. No GS though. I understand that you have to own basically all premiums first to get a GS in a Santa crate drop.

It can drop by chance but its low. 

Know your limits and better luck next time if you are going to try again. 

[ForlornSailor]

1 minute ago, Thundercracker_3 said:

Yeah, I got some christmas containers. No GS though. I understand that you have to own basically all premiums first to get a GS in a Santa crate drop.

 

Technically, you could get it with the first box. But anyway: dont focus too much on Cesare. Its not going to turn you into a worldstar just because reason. Kongo is just as strong as Cesare, in some situations even better.

[LiveWire___]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

 

Technically, you could get it with the first box. But anyway: dont focus too much on Cesare. Its not going to turn you into a worldstar just because reason. Kongo is just as strong as Cesare, in some situations even better.

Oh, I know cesare is no wonder ship. I just really like the look of it. 

[ForlornSailor]

1 minute ago, Thundercracker_3 said:

Oh, I know cesare is no wonder ship. I just really like the look of it. 

 

Yea, she is a beauty, thats true :)

[BrusilovX]

9 minutes ago, Thundercracker_3 said:

Oh, I know cesare is no wonder ship. I just really like the look of it. 

Hopefully, when the Italian BB line is released there will be some similar ships available in-game.

 

[Ronchabale]

It is a beautifu ship

Not likely to appear in the store again (I got mine when it made a brief re appearence in the store in June 2018 )

You can get it from a Santa Crate 

 If you go for the most expensive containers the droprate is around 2-3 ships per 20 containers

(at least that is what I experienced )

Due to issues with the "randomizer" the Rare ships Benham, Gulio Cesare, Belfast, Missouri, Kamikaze, Kutuzov etc. will not drop until all the lesser premiums from tier 4 and up have been obtained but then when u have them all the last 5 ship crates u get will all have "rare" ships in them

 

[M4R4Z]

BTW, it's Giulio Cesare, the ship is named after a great Roman general and political leader.

[Captain_Newman]

Giulio is listed under rare ships, which means the chances of it being available again in some way other than Christmas boxes are slim.

[LiveWire___]

48 minutes ago, M4R4Z said:

BTW, it's Giulio Cesare, the ship is named after a great Roman general and political leader.

Yes, I know. It was a typo 

 

Edit: I also know who Julius Caesar was. He had a giant head.

[lafeel]

1 hour ago, M4R4Z said:

BTW, it's Giulio Cesare, the ship is named after a great Roman general and political leader.

Jules Cesar himself.

[Sehales]

25 minutes ago, Ronchabale said:

Due to issues with the "randomizer" the Rare ships Benham, Gulio Cesare, Belfast, Missouri, Kamikaze, Kutuzov etc. will not drop until all the lesser premiums from tier 4 and up have been obtained but then when u have them all the last 5 ship crates u get will all have "rare" ships in them

You can also drop it as first ship, but it is simply based on luck... If you do have most other ships you could possibly get, there is simply a higher chance that if a ship drops, it is the one you are looking for.

I cannot say whether she is ever gonna be sold again, but there are no plans for the near future.

If it is gonna happen, we will announce it as usual with our sales.

[LiveWire___]

3 minutes ago, Sehales said:

You can also drop it as first ship, but it is simply based on luck... If you do have most other ships you could possibly get, there is simply a higher chance that if a ship drops, it is the one you are looking for.

I cannot say whether she is ever gonna be sold again, but there are no plans for the near future.

If it is gonna happen, we will announce it as usual with our sales.

An actual reply from a WG staff member? I am honoured!

 

Thanks for the quick response!

 

Actually, while I have your attention: Viribus Unitis. Are there any plans to buff / nerf her at all? Or maybe drop her down a tier?

 

EDIT: specifically; her AA suite. Now, I understand that the reason her AA is poor is that she "did not survive WW1 to have had a refit". If this is correct, then how does this square with SMS Bayern? As we know, she went down in Scapa Flow, and so also did not survive WW1 to have had a refit. It got a "what if" refit.

 

Could Viribus Unitis not have a "what if" refit? You know, the kind that might have happened had she not been sunk in harbour, and been successfully transferred to Yugoslavia?

[Procrastes]

1 hour ago, Thundercracker_3 said:

Could Viribus Unitis not have a "what if" refit? You know, the kind that might have happened had she not been sunk in harbour, and been successfully transferred to Yugoslavia?

You mean, a "what if she were actually any good?" kind of refit? That one?

Yeah, I guess she could use one of those.

 

...

 

Sorry, couldn't resist. A Viribus Unitis refit, you say? I don't see why not - but then I'd suggest that they make the existing one the "refit" and put the "unfit" one at tier IV, where she should have been to begin with (albeit probably with somewhat weaker guns).

 

I bought the Viribus Unitis straight away, mainly because I've read up quite a lot on the old Austro-Hungarian Empire these past few years and I felt I had to have their number one dreadnought in my port. She's a stately old lady at that, and she packs a mean punch. I played a quite successful first battle in her, as I had an overbold Kongo cornered against the ropes map border and just kept beating at it until it gave up and stayed down. It was brutal, nasty and prolonged. Then I spent what remained of the battle trying but failing to get within firing distance of anything else to shoot at, because she's so goddamn slow and the others kept their distance after seeing what happened to their Kongo buddy. "You a friend of that Kongo? Well you saw what she got - you want some of that? No? Then you better keep running, you sorry excuse for a dreadnought-class fin-de-siècle belle époque battleship, or I 'll show you something else those overdecorated smoke stacks can be used for...!"

 

Not a bad show, all told.

[LiveWire___]

39 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

You mean, a "what if she were actually any good?" kind of refit? That one?

Yeah, I guess she could use one of those.

 

...

 

Sorry, couldn't resist. A Viribus Unitis refit, you say? I don't see why not - but then I'd suggest that they make the existing one the "refit" and put the "unfit" one at tier IV, where she should have been to begin with (albeit probably with somewhat weaker guns).

 

I bought the Viribus Unitis straight away, mainly because I've read up quite a lot on the old Austro-Hungarian Empire these past few years and I felt I had to have their number one dreadnought in my port. She's a stately old lady at that, and she packs a mean punch. I played a quite successful first battle in her, as I had an overbold Kongo cornered against the ropes map border and just kept beating at it until it gave up and stayed down. It was brutal, nasty and prolonged. Then I spent what remained of the battle trying but failing to get within firing distance of anything else to shoot at, because she's so goddamn slow and the others kept their distance after seeing what happened to their Kongo buddy. "You a friend of that Kongo? Well you saw what she got - you want some of that? No? Then you better keep running, you sorry excuse for a dreadnought-class fin-de-siècle belle époque battleship, or I 'll show you something else those overdecorated smoke stacks can be used for...!"

 

Not a bad show, all told.

It's a shame she's such a hard ship to do well in. I think I've sunk 3 ships using her in my best match so far. She appeals to my sense of individualism; I hardly ever see anyone else playing her, and she seems a bit special to me.

 

I agree regarding the guns. For 12" guns, they are rather effective; I seriously damaged a Scharnhorst using her a few matches ago. Managed to strip off more than half her HP; I took a few hits in return, but those 11" guns weren't doing much against VU's armour.

 

If she had better AA, some 10 -15k more health, and maybe 5kts extra speed, she'd be rather more dangerous. As it is, I find that she makes an excellent support ship. Stick close to another ship, lend firepower, accept AA cover etc.

 

She also blocks flanks rather well. When angled, even with her low HP, she can actually soak up quite a heavy pounding. She can be an absolute terror against cruisers; I held off two Exeters and a Furutaka using her in one match. That is, until I got torped by a Kamikaze. But that could have happened to any ship.

[LiveWire___]

Oh! And I just did a battle with her, being stalked by a Kamikaze. Just turned my stern to her, kept kiting to avoid the torps, and blew her out of the water with HE from rear turrets.

[Lakaedemonios]

6 hours ago, BrusilovX said:

Hopefully, when the Italian BB line is released there will be some similar ships available in-game.

 

it will be "Leonardo da Vinci" or "Conte di Cavour" in tier 4 and the very similar "Andrea Doria" in T5

[Lakaedemonios]

6 hours ago, Ronchabale said:

It is a beautifu ship

Not likely to appear in the store again (I got mine when it made a brief re appearence in the store in June 2018 )

You can get it from a Santa Crate 

 If you go for the most expensive containers the droprate is around 2-3 ships per 20 containers

(at least that is what I experienced )

Due to issues with the "randomizer" the Rare ships Benham, Gulio Cesare, Belfast, Missouri, Kamikaze, Kutuzov etc. will not drop until all the lesser premiums from tier 4 and up have been obtained but then when u have them all the last 5 ship crates u get will all have "rare" ships in them

 

I was extremely lucky this year and I get 14 ships in 80 containers! and were all the rare ships except Nikolai. ofc I had most of prem ships already and 4 rare ships....

[Butterdoll]

7 hours ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Technically, you could get it with the first box. But anyway: dont focus too much on Cesare. Its not going to turn you into a worldstar just because reason. Kongo is just as strong as Cesare, in some situations even better.

GC may not turn anyone in a world star.

It's just a don't give a damn kinda of ship.

:)

Even in my bane of BBs days if I saw one I would go the other way.

[TheBrut3]

So get the Jean Bart before it's too late!

[kfa]

14 hours ago, Sehales said:

You can also drop it as first ship, but it is simply based on luck... If you do have most other ships you could possibly get, there is simply a higher chance that if a ship drops, it is the one you are looking for.

I cannot say whether she is ever gonna be sold again, but there are no plans for the near future.

If it is gonna happen, we will announce it as usual with our sales.

I have hard time beleiving this, many players go on shopping spree for hundreds of boxes and get the rare ships last. You can check the christmas topics from every year. 

[Ronchabale]

15 hours ago, Minos_of_Creta said:

I was extremely lucky this year and I get 14 ships in 80 containers! and were all the rare ships except Nikolai. ofc I had most of prem ships already and 4 rare ships....

Bit better droprate than what I had, I also now have all premiums and all rare ships but the "rare" ones were the last to drop, same last christmas when rare ships only dropped when all other options were spent. 

 

Last year: Had the Missouri, Belfast, Mushashi, Giulio Cesare and Vampire, got a load of lesser ships (including both Boise and Nuevo de Julio) last to drop were  Gremyashchy, Nikolai, Kronstadt, Kutosov

(Kamikaze did actually come in "early" among the "lesser" ships last year so I guess there is some "randomness" there )

 

This year:  First a load of lesser ships and then at the end Enterprise, Bayard, Friesland, Fujin and last of all Benham

 

 

I dont care what they say about the randomness, that is just not true the only way to get rare ones is to more or less have all other premiums in your port

 

 

 

 

 

[Sehales]

16 hours ago, Thundercracker_3 said:

An actual reply from a WG staff member? I am honoured!

 

Thanks for the quick response!

 

Actually, while I have your attention: Viribus Unitis. Are there any plans to buff / nerf her at all? Or maybe drop her down a tier?

 

EDIT: specifically; her AA suite. Now, I understand that the reason her AA is poor is that she "did not survive WW1 to have had a refit". If this is correct, then how does this square with SMS Bayern? As we know, she went down in Scapa Flow, and so also did not survive WW1 to have had a refit. It got a "what if" refit.

 

Could Viribus Unitis not have a "what if" refit? You know, the kind that might have happened had she not been sunk in harbour, and been successfully transferred to Yugoslavia?

If we have any plans for changes or new ships, we will announce them accordingly. We generally cannot reply with any details to such questions, unless it was already published on the portal/dev blog or other official channels.

 

2 hours ago, kfa said:

I have hard time beleiving this, many players go on shopping spree for hundreds of boxes and get the rare ships last. You can check the christmas topics from every year. 

And while there are unlucky players, there are also lucky players sharing there how their first ever ship drop was a tier 9 ship, GC, Kutuzov, etc... Obviously having less ships that are left to receive and already having the commonly available ones further increases the chance of getting one of the rare ships, as the system doesn't give you a ship twice before you got all that are droppable (or in case you bought several containers at once).