Wargaming & how the player base is treated

[MadBadDave]

Quite clearly there is a lot of good with the game, which is why we keep coming back to it, however WG's attitude and contempt seems to be becoming more and more obvious, in game MM remains as broken as ever, I must say it's fun taking a T8 cv with T6/7 planes up against the clearly OP ship which the Russians won't nerf, yep Smolensk, and yet we are still denied the Belfast, typical Russian Rationale.   Remove an historic ship, from a navy that actually did something in WW2, and put in a fantasy ship from a navy that did sweet fa in WW2.     

 

Simple question; What's the difference in the 2 Botes, other than Nationality ?.   BUT then you could say the same of the Missouri and Kremlin, notice the theme ?.

 

The PR event; summed up WG's money grabbing contempt, an impossible grind without boosters, but then the generous reasonable offer of what 35k dabs, for an Average Cruiser , which insta vanishes when faced with a BB ???.   Every time I see a PR I laugh; they die very quickly, impressive.  And now the RN heavy cruiser Promo, having gone thru the RN light cruiser line and owning the Exeter (which I prefer to the Light's) I've opened what 30'ish random boxes, after the 4 directives etc, know how many "early" release ships have I got; ZERO.  Unlike the Italian cruiser event etc, you had a clear limited pathway, and it's not as if you can use the tokens on anything else, like a collection etc.  How many more bundles must be opened in order to get just one of the T5-T8's ?.

 

In game loot boxes have started becoming a topic at government level etc, I have a simple question; within the EU, of which WG operates; Does WG answer to anybody ?.

 

Given that there is no clear path way or ending regarding the current RN cruiser event's run and that there are no other alternatives that you can use your tokens on, can anyone far wiser than I tell me are WG acting illegally.     I do intend to raise the issue with my MP etc,  yes I chose to play the game, touted as FREE, clearly if I'd bought more than 1 bundle I "MAY" have got a ship.

 

I have no doubt I'll receive yet another caution etc for questioning the word of WG !.

 

If anyone has actually reported WG etc please let me know, or are they above the law ?.

[pra3y]

Yessss. Been waiting for a thread like this to pop up again 

 

[ColonelPete]

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200201/eu_2month/average_ship.html

"...clearly OP..."

 

Spot the difference:

You have one try...

 

Politicians talking about loot boxes does not make them illegal. Politicians also talk about computer games...

[iFax]

Dear WG, base yourself in the UK, we're not in the EU...

[Klopirat]

38 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

I do intend to raise the issue with my MP etc

[fumtu]

34 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Quite clearly there is a lot of good with the game, which is why we keep coming back to it, however WG's attitude and contempt seems to be becoming more and more obvious, in game MM remains as broken as ever, I must say it's fun taking a T8 cv with T6/7 planes up against the clearly OP ship which the Russians won't nerf, yep Smolensk, and yet we are still denied the Belfast, typical Russian Rationale.   

 

We are not. Belfast is in the game, sadly WG f*up and make it a little too strong, so they have to removed it. Not because it was British but because it is a little "too much balanced".

 

34 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Remove an historic ship, from a navy that actually did something in WW2, and put in a fantasy ship from a navy that did sweet fa in WW2.     

 

You are not fan of researching about ww2, aren't you?

 

34 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Simple question; What's the difference in the 2 Botes, other than Nationality ?.   BUT then you could say the same of the Missouri and Kremlin, notice the theme ?.

 

Well I already hinted it above but if you don't get then then it is pointless to explain more.

 

34 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Given that there is no clear path way or ending regarding the current RN cruiser event's run and that there are no other alternatives that you can use your tokens on, can anyone far wiser than I tell me are WG acting illegally.     I do intend to raise the issue with my MP etc,  yes I chose to play the game, touted as FREE, clearly if I'd bought more than 1 bundle I "MAY" have got a ship.

 

Yes definitely do that, I strongly recommend you to do just that.

[quickr]

2 minutes ago, fumtu said:

You are not fan of researching about ww2, aren't you?

Care to elaborate?

[HaachamaShipping]

45 minutes ago, MadBadDave said:

Quite clearly there is a lot of good with the game, which is why we keep coming back to it, however WG's attitude and contempt seems to be becoming more and more obvious, in game MM remains as broken as ever, I must say it's fun taking a T8 cv with T6/7 planes up against the clearly OP ship which the Russians won't nerf, yep Smolensk, and yet we are still denied the Belfast, typical Russian Rationale.   

Ah yes, crying about Kaga being too weak. Poor you...

[GarrusBrutus]

Why pay for loot boxes? It is basically gambling. And the house always wins in the end. 

[fumtu]

14 hours ago, quickr said:

Care to elaborate?

 

You know usual stuff like this or that navy did all this while Soviet Navy, as OP "nicely described", did "sweet fa in WW2". Sure the Soviet Navy didn't have some spectacular battles like those in Pacific, and how should they as there are no enemy BBs or CVs or large fleets in the Black Sea or Baltic. But if somebody is thinking that they didn't do anything he is wrong. They did as much as they could with resources they had under difficult situations.

[_HomTanks_]

[Capra76]

53 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Spot the difference:

 

You have one try...

 

4,500 players playing 300,000+ games at T10 compared to 250 very experinenced players playing 25,000 games at T7.

 

Is that what you were driving at?

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 1 Stunde, MadBadDave sagte:

Every time I see a PR I laugh; they die very quickly, impressive. 

Everytime I see a PR, I remember that I am driving a Japanese ship and therefore I am expected to hunt whales... 

[ColonelPete]

25 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

4,500 players playing 300,000+ games at T10 compared to 250 very experinenced players playing 25,000 games at T7.

 

Is that what you were driving at?

No.

Unbelievable that you messed that up

[Rufus_Roughcut]

1 hour ago, MadBadDave said:

 I do intend to raise the issue with my MP etc, 

 third world problems 

[Capra76]

14 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

No.

Unbelievable that messed that up

 

Unbelievable that you're still posting raw stats without even attempting to understand what they show.

 

1,770 players and 31,000 Smolensk games last week, I think the 3rd most played ship in the whole game (Bismarck and Shima 1 & 2), this means that the odds of having them on both teams is very high and thus the WR% is obviously going to tend towards 50%.

 

60 players and 1,059 Belfast games last week, the odds of 2 of them finding themselves on opposing teams must be vanishingly small so much wider variance in WR% is possible, and since the average Belfast player will have been in the game for at least 3 years he's going to be a lot better than the average T7 cruiser player, hence why the WR% is so high.

 

Still think that I messed up?

[Kikan_Nagato]

2 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

Unbelievable that you're still posting raw stats without even attempting to understand what they show.

 

1,770 players and 31,000 Smolensk games last week, I think the 3rd most played ship in the whole game (Bismarck and Shima 1 & 2), this means that the odds of having them on both teams is very high and thus the WR% is obviously going to tend towards 50%.

 

60 players and 1,059 Belfast games last week, the odds of 2 of them finding themselves on opposing teams must be vanishingly small so much wider variance in WR% is possible, and since the average Belfast player will have been in the game for at least 3 years he's going to be a lot better than the average T7 cruiser player, hence why the WR% is so high.

 

Still think that I messed up?

^Great explanation.

[Gudgeon]

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20200201/eu_2month/average_ship.html

"...clearly OP..."

 

Spot the difference:

You have one try...

 

Politicians talking about loot boxes does not make them illegal. Politicians also talk about computer games...

 

The Eastern Dragon is a much inferior Myoko to the ARP Myoko? 

[ColonelPete]

23 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

Unbelievable that you're still posting raw stats without even attempting to understand what they show.

 

1,770 players and 31,000 Smolensk games last week, I think the 3rd most played ship in the whole game (Bismarck and Shima 1 & 2), this means that the odds of having them on both teams is very high and thus the WR% is obviously going to tend towards 50%.

 

60 players and 1,059 Belfast games last week, the odds of 2 of them finding themselves on opposing teams must be vanishingly small so much wider variance in WR% is possible, and since the average Belfast player will have been in the game for at least 3 years he's going to be a lot better than the average T7 cruiser player, hence why the WR% is so high.

 

Still think that I messed up?

That is still not what the data is about.

And since the Smolensk WR is below 50%. The effect you are describing is IMPROVING the WR...

[anonym_WHY4JO92xZKJ]

20 minutes ago, Gudgeon said:

 

The Eastern Dragon is a much inferior Myoko to the ARP Myoko? 

The Arp Myoko is different from the normal Myoko?

Really?

[Capra76]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

That is still not what the data is about.

And since the Smolensk WR is below 50%. The effect you are describing is IMPROVING the WR...

 

So what is it about if it's not about WR% (and note that your list is ordered by WR%).

 

BTW, MapleSyrup lists solo battles only, hence about 48% - 49% is exactly what you'd expect to see for such a widely played ship (look at Bismarck, Shima etc if you don't believe me).

[MrWastee]

31 minutes ago, Gudgeon said:

 

The Eastern Dragon is a much inferior Myoko to the ARP Myoko? 

11 minutes ago, dunbine said:

The Arp Myoko is different from the normal Myoko?

Really?

 

no it's not (any more). it just got distributed in other ways. my bet is, if u take owners into account u'll see that there's less for eastern dragon would be my estimation. it got sold for money, while arp myoko been i think the easiest one to obtain back in the day (out of the myokos), thus many longtime players got it (and now new ones for money as well ofc).

[ColonelPete]

13 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

BTW, MapleSyrup lists solo battles only, hence about 48% - 49% is exactly what you'd expect to see for such a widely played ship (look at Bismarck, Shima etc if you don't believe me).

Contrary to you, I know the data. I do not need to believe.

 

You should not lecture other people about an effect, when you do not know how it works.

[Capra76]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

Contrary to you, I know the data. I do not need to believe.

 

You should not lecture other people about an effect, when you do not know how it works.

 

Now you're just using evasion, what was your point in posting the charts if it was not to (wrongly) highlight the WR%?

 

And in terms of you understanding the data and "an effect", everything you have posted so far appears to suggest the contrary, but feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

[anonym_WHY4JO92xZKJ]

17 minutes ago, MrWastee said:

No it's not (any more). it just got distributed in other ways. 

Then we should blame WG for selling fake Arp ships, that have no grav cannons, and cannot even blast a Smolensk out of the map, together with the island he uses to hide...