[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 248 posts 5,142 battles Report post #1 Posted January 25, 2020 how can this be possible? 1st battle results compared to 2nd battle? why did i get more exp in the 2nd battle, even if the dmg wasn't that good as the first? wtf is going on in this game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,398 posts 11,572 battles Report post #2 Posted January 25, 2020 Show us the detailed stats with what you damaged. XP is % based, so doing a % of a ships HP is worth more than raw damage. Meaning you will get the same XP from dealing 50% damage to a cruiser or 50% to a BB. That is my main guess here. Also did you swap out any economic flags or the like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,668 posts 10,074 battles Report post #3 Posted January 25, 2020 First battle: 1530 baseXP 2nd batte: 864 BaseXP Everything after that is affected by YOU! signals, Camo, daily win bonus, (well in this case not as its both defeats, but otherwise possible) and premium acc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NEXT] ColonelPete Players 35,226 posts 17,701 battles Report post #4 Posted January 25, 2020 You have MUCH less base XP in the second battle. The explanation for a higher total XP in your second battle can be found in your XP modifiers. Look at your results screen and you see what you used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 248 posts 5,142 battles Report post #5 Posted January 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, ollonborre said: Show us the detailed stats with what you damaged. XP is % based, so doing a % of a ships HP is worth more than raw damage. Meaning you will get the same XP from dealing 50% damage to a cruiser or 50% to a BB. That is my main guess here. Also did you swap out any economic flags or the like? in the first battle i used a This is your day Commander! camo and in the 2nd battle a frosty fir camo, didn't swap out any of the signals, just the camo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 13,912 posts Report post #6 Posted January 25, 2020 Just now, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: in the first battle i used a This is your day Commander! camo and in the 2nd battle a frosty fir camo, didn't swap out any of the signals, just the camo but as was said already: your first battle gave much more baseXP, so everything fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,668 posts 10,074 battles Report post #7 Posted January 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: in the first battle i used a This is your day Commander! camo and in the 2nd battle a frosty fir camo, didn't swap out any of the signals, just the camo Maybe Premium account ran out Maybe one of your signals ran out And first Camo gives +250% Commander/FreeXP, while Frosty Fir gives XP/CommanderXP/FreeXP. so naturally, you get more normal XP when using the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NEXT] ColonelPete Players 35,226 posts 17,701 battles Report post #8 Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: in the first battle i used a This is your day Commander! camo and in the 2nd battle a frosty fir camo, didn't swap out any of the signals, just the camo Unless you look at the detailed results screen, you will never know exactly why the numbers are different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ROPS] HMS_Edinburgh_C16 Players 248 posts 5,142 battles Report post #9 Posted January 26, 2020 20 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Maybe Premium account ran out Maybe one of your signals ran out And first Camo gives +250% Commander/FreeXP, while Frosty Fir gives XP/CommanderXP/FreeXP. so naturally, you get more normal XP when using the latter. so let me understand, it doesn't matter if u do 1 dmg but u have mounted a good camo compared to a monster dmg game without a exp camo. the [edited]is this thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,668 posts 10,074 battles Report post #10 Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: so let me understand, it doesn't matter if u do 1 dmg but u have mounted a good camo compared to a monster dmg game without a exp camo. the [edited]is this thinking No, not exactly. The more base XP you get (the 2nd and 4th screenshot you posted), the more you gain from camos/signals as they are percentage based. F.e. if you get 100 base XP, and you have a camo with 100% Bonus, you get 200 XP. But if you get 1000 BaseXP, the same camo bumps it up to 2000 XP. Thats what happens if you get high BaseXP and stack all signals + super camo + Premium acc + 200% daily win bonus in Narai. And thats still not the maximum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,453 battles Report post #11 Posted January 26, 2020 21 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: how can this be possible? 1st battle results compared to 2nd battle? why did i get more exp in the 2nd battle, even if the dmg wasn't that good as the first? wtf is going on in this game? Xp is based on % of damage, 50% of dd (say 10k damage) is worth the same as 50% of BB damage (even if that’s 40k) so in the second game you may have done more EFFECTIVE damage, and less on big targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 12,668 posts 10,074 battles Report post #12 Posted January 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rionnen_marksman said: Xp is based on % of damage, 50% of dd (say 10k damage) is worth the same as 50% of BB damage (even if that’s 40k) so in the second game you may have done more EFFECTIVE damage, and less on big targets. Dont confuse him more, he had 100k more damage and almost double the baseXP, which is worth much more than stacking signals/camos. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 5,669 posts 23,149 battles Report post #13 Posted January 26, 2020 Isn't XP also based on the tier of the ship you damage, so that damaging higher Tier ships gives more XP? Empirically that feels right... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] THE_JUDEAN_PEOPLES_FRONT Players 121 posts 11,100 battles Report post #14 Posted January 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Isn't XP also based on the tier of the ship you damage, so that damaging higher Tier ships gives more XP? Empirically that feels right... that was my understanding too. so if your bottom tier (which sucks) the better you do against the higher tier is magnified Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 827 posts 16,623 battles Report post #15 Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: Isn't XP also based on the tier of the ship you damage, so that damaging higher Tier ships gives more XP? Empirically that feels right... Ye blowing up a full hp T10 DD in a T8 guarantees top 3 in the teamlist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,453 battles Report post #16 Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DFens_666 said: Dont confuse him more, he had 100k more damage and almost double the baseXP, which is worth much more than stacking signals/camos. Which I suspect is why he’s confused he got LESS xp than the battle he did 100k LESS damage in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NEXT] ColonelPete Players 35,226 posts 17,701 battles Report post #17 Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, HMS_Edinburgh_C16 said: so let me understand, it doesn't matter if u do 1 dmg but u have mounted a good camo compared to a monster dmg game without a exp camo. the [edited]is this thinking No. The better the game, the more XP you get. If you get nothing, then the modifiers give you nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites