Cipherik Players 2 posts Report post #1 Posted January 19, 2020 Why italian cruisers Amalfi tier8 & Brindisi tier9 have 4torps per side, and Venezia tier10 has 3per side??? (it doesn't make sense) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #2 Posted January 19, 2020 Balance. The Venezia has better armour and more guns. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NHSOS] Lakedaemonios [NHSOS] Players 126 posts 4,202 battles Report post #3 Posted January 19, 2020 WG logic! have u any problem? torps in Italian Cr r for decor any way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #4 Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, MrFukayou said: Why italian cruisers Amalfi tier8 & Brindisi tier9 have 4torps per side, and Venezia tier10 has 3per side??? (it doesn't make sense) Same thing for, why does donskoi has 12 guns at tier 9 but moskva has 9 guns at tier 10? because there is not a rule or law states that a tier 10 ship must be superior IN ANYWAY than the tier 9 comes before it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #5 Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Excavatus said: Same thing for, why does donskoi has 12 guns at tier 9 but moskva has 9 guns at tier 10? because there is not a rule or law states that a tier 10 ship must be superior IN ANYWAY than the tier 9 comes before it. Except guns are different in both cruisers as Moskva has higher caliber guns with higher damage. And Venezia torps are faster, reloads quicker and deals more damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CU] Rionnen_marksman Players 373 posts 6,979 battles Report post #6 Posted January 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Agis_D said: WG logic! have u any problem? torps in Italian Cr r for decor any way... People say that about Atlanta torps. which is fine, until they come round a corner into a wall of them 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #7 Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, L8viathan said: Except guns are different in both cruisers as Moskva has higher caliber guns with higher damage. And Venezia torps are faster, reloads quicker and deals more damage. Yep I know :) I'm just putting out an example! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NHSOS] Lakedaemonios [NHSOS] Players 126 posts 4,202 battles Report post #8 Posted January 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Rionnen_marksman said: People say that about Atlanta torps. which is fine, until they come round a corner into a wall of them ofc u r right! In battle u use whatever u have and nobody can evade a torp fired from less than 1km! I am a DD player mainly. I have kill even with Sims torps. That is not make them less laughable... And Torpedo Protection is coming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #9 Posted January 19, 2020 Emerald has 6 torps per side, Leander has 4 torps per side, Fiji and Edinburgh have 3 torps per side, Neptune and Minotaur get 8 torps per side. 1 hour ago, Agis_D said: I am a DD player mainly. I have kill even with Sims torps. That is not make them less laughable... Sims torps aren't necessarily laughable. The damage is bad, but 65 knots speed and very low visibility, together with a quite rapid reload make them quite decent overall for T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NHSOS] Lakedaemonios [NHSOS] Players 126 posts 4,202 battles Report post #10 Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sleepy_Bunny said: Emerald has 6 torps per side, Leander has 4 torps per side, Fiji and Edinburgh have 3 torps per side, Neptune and Minotaur get 8 torps per side. Sims torps aren't necessarily laughable. The damage is bad, but 65 knots speed and very low visibility, together with a quite rapid reload make them quite decent overall for T7. in the beginning I was using the long range version!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11 Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Agis_D said: in the beginning I was using the long range version!!!! I was using long range version before they buffed the short range to 7 km. Now that you can stealth torp with these things, I totally use them over the long-range version because they have a really good speed/visibility combination and while the damage is bad, the long-range is just an utter joke in that department. And they can get results... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NHSOS] Lakedaemonios [NHSOS] Players 126 posts 4,202 battles Report post #12 Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sleepy_Bunny said: I was using long range version before they buffed the short range to 7 km. Now that you can stealth torp with these things, I totally use them over the long-range version because they have a really good speed/visibility combination and while the damage is bad, the long-range is just an utter joke in that department. And they can get results... VERY impressive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #13 Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 2:48 AM, MrFukayou said: Why italian cruisers Amalfi tier8 & Brindisi tier9 have 4torps per side, and Venezia tier10 has 3per side??? (it doesn't make sense) Oh... It's called Armament Progression. Works same as gun calliber progression... 22 hours ago, Excavatus said: (...) because there is not a rule or law states that a tier 10 ship must be superior IN ANYWAY than the tier 9 comes before it. Yeah, there kind of is, otherwise it would be tier 8... Oh wait... Sorry... I forgot we're talking WG "logic"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #14 Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Skyllon said: Yeah, there kind of is, otherwise it would be tier 8... So, do you really believe, a tier 9 ships must be superior than its tier 8 on every aspect? like, guns, mobility, stealth everything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyllon Players 2,588 posts Report post #15 Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Excavatus said: So, do you really believe, a tier 9 ships must be superior than its tier 8 on every aspect? like, guns, mobility, stealth everything? 22 hours ago, Excavatus said: Same thing for, why does donskoi has 12 guns at tier 9 but moskva has 9 guns at tier 10? because there is not a rule or law states that a tier 10 ship must be superior IN ANYWAY than the tier 9 comes before it. Make up your mind Buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #16 Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 8:20 AM, Agis_D said: WG logic! have u any problem? torps in Italian Cr r for decor any way... With Sansonetti's improved torpedo acceleration you get 63kt, 10.8km range torps. It might not be a torpedo cruiser, but these stats actually move them out of the sea mine category and into usable. They're a secondary weapon, anyway, it's all about the guns. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #17 Posted January 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Skyllon said: Make up your mind Buddy. Did you misunderstand what he wrote? The two statements you just quoted are mutually consistent. Both mean that a tier higher ship doesn't necessarily have to be better in every stat category than it's lower tier counterpart. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #18 Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Skyllon said: Make up your mind Buddy. I was trying to say the same thing.. I guess thats a grammatical problem on my side then.. I tried to say, in Anyway possible.. or in everyway.. My mistake! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #19 Posted January 20, 2020 @Excavatus I think, higher tier ships should be superior in most aspects if not every aspect. Otherwise, what is the point of tier progress and having higher tier ships? For instance, if a Buffalo will shoot like a Baltimore, we already have a Baltimore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #20 Posted January 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, L8viathan said: I think, higher tier ships should be superior in most aspects if not every aspect. I agree with you on that %100 sometimes even on every aspect depending on the ship.. like roon to hindy but sometimes, fletcher to gearing or kita to haru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #21 Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Excavatus said: I agree with you on that %100 sometimes even on every aspect depending on the ship.. like roon to hindy but sometimes, fletcher to gearing or kita to haru Well Haru still has better aspects than Kita like hp, extra turret, rudder shift, while kita has better concealment and turning circle. Again Gearing has better HP, extra turret, more ROF, option of equipping longer range torps, better rudder, while Fletcher has better turning circle, a slightly better concealment. T10s are better in more aspects than the lower tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #22 Posted January 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, L8viathan said: Well Haru still has better aspects than Kita like hp, extra turret, rudder shift, while kita has better concealment and turning circle. Again Gearing has better HP, extra turret, more ROF, option of equipping longer range torps, better rudder, while Fletcher has better turning circle, a slightly better concealment. T10s are better in more aspects than the lower tiers. I prefer kita on 9 out of 10 times :) Haru is a bloody brick who does not like to turn! :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_HomTanks_ Players 3,368 posts 37,429 battles Report post #23 Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Excavatus said: I prefer kita on 9 out of 10 times :) Haru is a bloody brick who does not like to turn! :D Sure, preference is something else :} And yes, both haru and gearing feel like bricks after fletch and kita. Although i don't play them often, maybe once in a month, I find fletch, kita and haru as near op strong ships for their tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanD4rk Players 395 posts 9,000 battles Report post #24 Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 3:48 AM, MrFukayou said: Why italian cruisers Amalfi tier8 & Brindisi tier9 have 4torps per side, and Venezia tier10 has 3per side??? (it doesn't make sense) Many things in this game make no sense. Don't think, just buy ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #25 Posted January 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, L8viathan said: Sure, preference is something else :} And yes, both haru and gearing feel like bricks after fletch and kita. Although i don't play them often, maybe once in a month, I find fletch, kita and haru as near op strong ships for their tiers. actually all the DDs are same to me nowadays, Because my last two months.. looks like this :) I remember being an IJN torpboat main.. aaaaah! good old days :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
