When is London getting released ?

[Munchboii]

Does British Tier 6 Heavy Cruiser London Premium ship release tomorrow with the start of the British event?

[Aragathor]

Most likely on Friday, not Thursday.

[Miscommunication_dept]

It’s odd. I haven’t seen any mention of it.

It would be a good reward ship though.

 

could they be having troubles balancing it with its smoke?

[lafeel]

2 hours ago, Munchboii said:

Does British Tier 6 Heavy Cruiser London Premium ship release tomorrow with the start of the British event?

Soon™

[invicta2012]

33 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

could they be having troubles balancing it with its smoke?

Yes. The last version I saw was rather OP. If they release it as it went to test, buy it - it's the next Belfast.

[MyopicHedgehog]

47 minutes ago, gopher31 said:

It’s odd. I haven’t seen any mention of it.

It would be a good reward ship though.

 

could they be having troubles balancing it with its smoke?

I mean this is WG, probably having difficulty releasing a playable non-RU ship into the wild.  "Boris, this RN ship is too good - hit it with the nerf-hammer again"

[Lin3]

7 hours ago, Munchboii said:

When is London getting released ?

After Brexit?

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 5 Stunden, gopher31 sagte:

could they be having troubles balancing it with its smoke?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

 

[Captain_Newman]

9 hours ago, gopher31 said:

could they be having troubles balancing it with its smoke?

 

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smolensk

 

Exhibit A. Evidence of how concerned they are with balancing smoke firing cruisers...

[josykay]

Probably not so soon. They tried to give it the testserver Exeter tool kit... which is no matter if Tier 5 or 6 hilariously Op.

[MyopicHedgehog]

2 hours ago, Captain_Newman said:

 

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Smolensk

 

Exhibit A. Evidence of how concerned they are with balancing smoke firing cruisers...

But Smol is RU not RN!

[Procrastes]

54 minutes ago, josykay said:

Probably not so soon. They tried to give it the testserver Exeter tool kit... which is no matter if Tier 5 or 6 hilariously Op.

Exeter as she is, is fine. Exeter with smoke would be super-duper OP.

Perth as she is, is fine. Perth with a Heal would be super-duper OP.

 

So yes, I can see a possible balance problem in the making, here. I guess the London wouldn't have her own spotter plane, though (?), so there is that - people tend to underestimate just how versatile and self-sufficient the Perth is thanks to having that little Walrus float plane, which lets her see out of her own smoke.

[DFens_666]

27 minutes ago, Procrastes said:

So yes, I can see a possible balance problem in the making, here. I guess the London wouldn't have her own spotter plane, though (?), so there is that - people tend to underestimate just how versatile and self-sufficient the Perth is thanks to having that little Walrus float plane, which lets her see out of her own smoke.

 

We used to do that with Leander + Graf Spee pre-smoke firing nerf

People expect a Leander, and get some nice Graf Spee shells coming their way, spotting provided by the plane

[Redcap375]

1 hour ago, Procrastes said:

Exeter as she is, is fine. Exeter with smoke would be super-duper OP.

Perth as she is, is fine. Perth with a Heal would be super-duper OP.

 

 So yes, I can see a possible balance problem in the making, here. I guess the London wouldn't have her own spotter plane, though (?), so there is that - people tend to underestimate just how versatile and self-sufficient the Perth is thanks to having that little Walrus float plane, which lets her see out of her own smoke.

 

And the Smol doesn't have a spotter plane?

 

Doesn't effect that ship what-so-ever. 

 

It's going to be very strong. 

 

[BLUB__BLUB]

2 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

and get some nice Graf Spee shells coming their way, spotting provided by the plane

...well yeah they were so stupid not to spot the plane, anyway.

They probably even were searching for the Leander player to give bad karma, too.

[Procrastes]

3 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

And the Smol doesn't have a spotter plane?

 

Doesn't effect that ship what-so-ever. 

 

It's going to be very strong. 

I agree that the spotter plane in itself doesn't make much of  a difference in this context, since with good timing you can usually rely on your team mates doing the spotting for you.

 

The combination of heal and smoke gives a ship a lot of extra survivability. The Leander and the Fiji both have this combination  of consumables. Both are generally thought of as very good ships, but they are not usually considered to be OP.* I sometimes wonder if being equipped with HE shells - which would be the main difference, here - is really such a huge game-changer? The Fiji in particular can dish out a lot of damage to most targets, and is not all that held back by having "only" the special British enhanced AP rounds.

 

One could argue that light cruisers can make more use of a smoke screen than heavy cruisers, since they are more dependent on being able to keep up a continuing barrage. The Belfast, for instance, would probably be considered a weaker less strong ship if she had 203 mm guns rather than 152 mm guns. So a heavy cruiser with access to smoke, heal and HE shells would probably be less strong than a light cruiser with the same set-up. Or am I missing something, here?

 

I do think that a ship like the London could be well balanced, with some effort and a lot of pre-release testing. But Wargaming should tread carefully here, or they risk making a lot of other heavy cruisers redundant overnight.** Maybe they could remove her torpedoes? The lack of torpedoes is a saving grace (sort of) for the Belfast, since there is always the option to just rush her smoke (and hope you don't find her in the company of something like, say, a Jervis).

 

* Although the jury may still be out with regards to the Fiji. There are those who think - I being one of them - that she is in many ways a stronger ship than her sister Belfast.

** The Furutaka says hello to the Exeter, by the way.