veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #1 Posted January 9, 2020 From devs blog The detectability ranges were increased: - - By ships from 9.04 to 9.54 km; - - By planes from 4.35 to 4.59 km; - - After firing main guns in smoke from 3.7 to 3.96 km. - Torpedoes' detectability range increased from 1.4 to 1.8 km. French destroyer Kleber, tier X: - The detectability ranges were increased: - - By ships from 8.88 to 9.88 km; - - By planes from 4.83 to 5.38 km; - - After firing main guns in smoke from 3.63 to 4.15 km. - Torpedoes' detectability range increased from 1.4 to 1.8 km deserved? 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #2 Posted January 9, 2020 Kremlin got its AA mount HP nerfed by half and monty now has 0.66% heal instead of the usual 0.5%. Oh and hindy got a DPM buff. Henri got accel nerf on sped boost. Also first comment is someone complaining about kremlin nerf and that cv's deal too much damage. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #3 Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, veslingr said: deserved? Yes. But Kleber should receive full BB AP pens like Harugumo and Khaba to balance them between each other. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #4 Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, veslingr said: deserved? I love the Klubber. But to be completely fair it needs a big nerf. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #5 Posted January 9, 2020 Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veslingr Players 2,975 posts 477 battles Report post #6 Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, El2aZeR said: Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. torps also got nerfed (still not that important for gunboat) it was heavily used in CW last season....1 more km detection range on it could remove it from competitive....maybe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #7 Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. With previous concealment it could stealth torp pretty comfortably (1,2 km envelope) with those 75 knot monsters. Think of it as a Shima with 4x3 F3 torps with shorter reload. Even just as a torp boat, it was very strong. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #8 Posted January 9, 2020 So, are they now officially light LIGHT cruisers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #9 Posted January 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. Makes it atleast a little bit easier for the "classic" DDs to counterplay Kleber. This "lala I rush u when im spotted and just kill u" will be somewhat harder now... Also what @GulvkluderGuld says about Torps. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #10 Posted January 9, 2020 http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20191214/eu_2month/average_ship.html The changes look ok. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAD] Miscommunication_dept Players 5,512 posts 24,441 battles Report post #11 Posted January 9, 2020 The changes look absolutely fine considering the speed these things go and the effect of their MRB. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #12 Posted January 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. Croissant derpstroyers were more of an ambushers, able to deliver uncensored amount of gun love via MBRB, as well had some potential on playing torpedo boats. Especially tier 9 and 10 due to 1.4km detection on torps coupled with 75kts. Using them as open water gunboats is... eehhh, as their sustained dpm is pretty bad, Kleber base HE dpm is equal to Shima at 135k. Khaba, to put into perspective have 182k base. Kleber concealment nerf essentially removes stealth torping window, currently having 1km, post change she will have what, 300m? Bringing her almost equal to Kebab. Speaking of one, this, oh so gently put mobility nerf to Henri 55 minutes ago, Sehales said: French cruiser Henri IV, tier X: Time for the ship's engine to reach maximum power was increased; Acceleration parameters while Engine boost consumable is active were changed. Due to Engine boost and high base speed, Henri IV was able to dodge incoming fire quickly changing the speed. Now, the ship will accelerate and decelerate smoother. Apparently you cannot have fun in cruiser on open waters, go back humping islands 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #13 Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Panocek said: Apparently you cannot have fun in cruiser on open waters, go back humping islands Smolensk wants to have a word with you Seriously: Nerfing Henri IV is a bit uncalled for imo, but we'll have to see how effective it is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toodle_Pip_Old_Chap Players 104 posts 13,082 battles Report post #14 Posted January 9, 2020 And yet smolensk escapes the nerf bat wow, the mind boggles with the idiots at the helm. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #15 Posted January 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Wait, a gun DD that engages at mid range anyway shouldn't particularly care about concealment in the first place? Just saying, looks more placebo to me but I have no experience with FR DDs. they did this to shut up the whiners (same as kremlin -500 max dmg and now the AA mounts health nerf) just so they can say the balancing is underway and they need 3 more moths to deceide further actions 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #16 Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Viper_Tech_ said: And yet smolensk escapes the nerf bat wow, the mind boggles with the idiots at the helm. Probably will get nerfbatted when WG come up with Smolensk 2.0, having additional wing turret per broadside 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] Altsak Players 791 posts 16,516 battles Report post #17 Posted January 9, 2020 The scale of ners boggles my mind again. Klebér gets its area of detectability increased by a quarter while Kremlin's AA mounts get a survivability nerf. How about changing the nerfs around? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF2] Hugh_Ruka Players 4,054 posts 5,647 battles Report post #18 Posted January 9, 2020 I was expecting torp range nerf but this works as well ... now to get Khaba back his 10km torps and we are good ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NSAF] LowSpeedHighDrag Players 484 posts 16,909 battles Report post #19 Posted January 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, kfa said: they did this to shut up the whiners Conjecture. Henry IV's nerf, is a slap in the cheek. They need to optimize the smoke stacks (not rendering properly in distance) on Henry IV instead of her ability to alter speeds. What about the players who grinded/bought/coal purchased the Speed Boost module. Yeah, so much for that wasted time/money. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #20 Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Panocek said: Probably will get nerfbatted when WG come up with Smolensk 2.0, having additional wing turret per broadside Miss bigensk! now with 20 160mm gunz. Balans! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4_0_4] Zemeritt Players 9,337 posts 16,243 battles Report post #21 Posted January 9, 2020 Also Hindy is now stronger then her Pre-Nerf version. I expected the Kleber to get a nerf. And her getting the concealment nerfed is not as hard as a nerf as the YY got back in the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #22 Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, CptBarney said: Miss bigensk! now with 20 160mm gunz. Balans! What-if captured Wyoming AG-17, outfitted with 130mm quad and twin turrets, as well receiving engine overhaul to push speed past 27kts. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[F-E-O] Capt_Popei [F-E-O] Players 83 posts 26,496 battles Report post #23 Posted January 9, 2020 WG release new branches and after a few months get a brutal nerf. Well, I had enought time to enjoy Kleber, now it´s time to sell it. Please WG, we need more Puerto Ricos made of adamantium, and more HE spam, and subs... the game is going to became very funny this year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #24 Posted January 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Panocek said: What-if captured Wyoming AG-17, outfitted with 130mm quad and twin turrets, as well receiving engine overhaul to push speed past 27kts. ahh but comrade is not gangut, so gib gangut 5 quad turret kirov guns for extra balans and 30knot speed! yes. 'w' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p3rh4n4 Players 67 posts 9,748 battles Report post #25 Posted January 10, 2020 Ah, glad to see that the trend continues. I just got mogador yesterday.. Somehow I allways reach the ships when nerfbat hits, not that I'm really complaining, looks like klubber needed adjusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
