how can I evade rockets and bombs?

[HassenderZerhacker]

many ships are manoeuverable enough to evade torps from planes, but I have so far not been able to evade bombs or rockets when a skilled CV player drops them. what can I do to evade them?

[Camperdown]

Bombs: broadside to the planes

Rockets head on.

Won't avoid them but minimise damage.

[Yedwy]

9 minutes ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

many ships are manoeuverable enough to evade torps from planes, but I have so far not been able to evade bombs or rockets when a skilled CV player drops them. what can I do to evade them?

Nothing, I am a potato and even if I zero you in you are  only thing you can do is turn into planes and pray I  up the drop...

[El2aZeR]

You don't.

 

3 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

Rockets head on.

 

Terrible advice. Most rockets have vertical dispersion.

[Bear__Necessities]

You can’t. Sadly is as simple as that. A good CV will hit you, no matter what. It’s just a case of pray to RNG it isn’t damaging... too much... on the 1st of many many runs.

[Camperdown]

1 minute ago, El2aZeR said:

You don't.

 

 

Terrible advice. Most rockets have vertical dispersion.

Ah this is new to me.

So how do you face rockets? 

And which are not most?

[ForlornSailor]

5 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

Bombs: broadside to the planes 

Rockets head on.

 

And with such manouvers you might give broadside to the enemy fleet, which in many ships is even worse then just let it happen.

 

So. conclusion: you dont.

[El2aZeR]

2 minutes ago, Camperdown said:

So how do you face rockets? 

 

You just take them.

[Captain_Newman]

Just now, Camperdown said:

Ah this is new to me.

So how do you face rockets? 

And which are not most?

 

If it's a bad CV player, you can try to dodge - sometimes, I'll see he starts his attack runs quite late, in which case I will turn in to make him overshoot me. Or you could try to actually slow down to throw off his aim, since they usually account for you going full speed.

 

Problem is, this will mitigate some damage at best - and only against a bad CV. Against a good one, you're either moving slowly in your smoke with AA off so he can't see where you are, or you die (which is really just a choice between "die now or die a bit later" if the enemy CV is good).

 

If you're thinking "wait, this sounds terribly designed" right now, well.. yes. Yes it is. Can't even be bothered with the spreadsheet meme anymore

[Yedwy]

22 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said:

Against a good one, you're either moving slowly in your smoke with AA off so he can't see where you are

Hehe this, so much this, rocketing guys that see me coming in and then drop smoke and stand still in it never gets old ^^

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

american rockets get the most damage on you when you are broadside

UK rockets and i assume most others get the most damage when you are strait on

how do you avoid damage, you dont, none can be avoided, you are going to suffer, life is pain, balance doesnt exist 

you do tend to lose more systems if your broadside to planes so, considering your going to die anyway, you might aswell keep your guns to shoot atleast a few times before you die 

[Lord0]

1 hour ago, Camperdown said:

So how do you face rockets?

Bend over and I'll show you

[fumtu]

Simple, you just dodge them.

[Lord0]

10 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Simple, you just dodge them.

Dodge, duck, dip, dive and er... dodge

[Perekotypole]

 new ships are in testing that can avoid rockets, they can dive under the water

[bigdoguk]

Play in a game without a cv

[Major_Damage225]

Only way is to open you'r ships seacock valves and get it over with 

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

what can I do to evade them?

Bigger ships, not much - just hope you aren't too set on fire etc.

 

Smaller, more nimble ships depend rather on who you're facing: if you get unlucky, and get a decent CV player, you're basically boned regardless; against more average-poor players (so, the majority), you have some options.

 

If a rocket (especially) plane is bearing down on you, turn into him, so he may over-shoot; against either type, hard zig-zags can evade at least some of the drops (again, it helps if you're heading towards each other). If you have flak, use it - it probably won't do much good, unless you get someone who drives straight into the puffs, but it's harder to aim if dodging flak. If your AA is remotely serviceable, use it (although remember to keep it off when you want to be dark) - you may do enough damage to encourage the CV to try his luck elsewhere, and you might boost your earnings a bit in the process.

 

For emphasis though: good CVs laugh at this sort of stuff - it'll only work (to a greater/lesser extent) against the typical players you meet in randoms.

[Lebedjev]

The best way is hope.

Hope the ennemy cv is braindead.

[Pikkozoikum]

On 1/5/2020 at 4:45 PM, Camperdown said:

Ah this is new to me.

So how do you face rockets? 

And which are not most?

Head on is still a good advice for two reasons:

1. Most rockets still go to the side off and will miss, a diagonal target or broadside often gives more area to hit because of the superstructure.

Spoiler

Over shooting rocket would miss in a frontal engagement. while it would hit superstructure, when broadside. (Though Tiny tims could be still better when frontal engaging, just talking about morphology and mechanic)

 

2.With AA off and moving towards rocket planes makes aiming harder, because there is less time to aim at the DD, sometimes rocket planes won't be ready for drop the rockets and they will over shoot.

 

Another technique is feinting. When a DD has AA off, rocket planes often have to start the attack earlier towards last-known position. So if you move diagonal left to the Attack airplanes, you can activate and deactiave your AA in a second, then you turn diagonal right and some CVs get feinted and they approach towards a wrong direction

 

 

Doesn't work always, and only recommendend, when there are some AA ships around, who will destroy the rest of the squadron, before it can strike again

[Ashardalon_Dragnipur]

just face the fact that every time there is a CV in the game you have a 1/12 chance to die before you get to shoot

your throwing away credits, flags, camos and any assumption you had that this game is supposed to be fun

fighter consumable does nothing, aa might reduce the pain of the third pass a little if your lucky and dodging is a joke 

the game is broken

[novents]

Let’s be perfectly clear - against a good CV (not even unicum or top -10 server wide) there’s nothing you can do. Flak is a decoration, fighter plane consumable can be counteracted with CVs own fighter, sector reinforcement doesn’t deal enough dps to deter a second or third strike. 

 

The only class of ship you can screw with CVs a little is a DD with good air concealment. See rocket planes approach? Switch off your AA and drive full speed towards the squadron. 98/100 times he will overshoot the first drop. But that’s as far as it goes. He will come back and get the following strike when he knows where you are. The trick is to not get spotted in the first place. Make the CV look for you, every second he doesn’t find you is every second he’s not dealing damage. Most CVs (except the good ones) will give up relatively quickly because mUsT FaRM dAMagE. 

 

As cruisers - you’re pretty nimble to use wasd hax to try and throw off the aim. You biggest threat is AP dive bombs (and being air spotted for enemy BBs to take pot shots at you while you’re trying to dodge). So keep the threats in mind. Don’t lead a push in a squishy cruiser if there’s an enemy carrier on your flank. 

 

As a BB - just take the dmg. You can heal fire dmg and your torp belt is good enough to soak up a few waves of torpedo bombers. But turning full broadside in front of enemy Yamato to eat one less torpedo can send you back to port faster than you can type “noob CV no support” in team chat

[Sunleader]

2 hours ago, HassenderZerhacker said:

many ships are manoeuverable enough to evade torps from planes, but I have so far not been able to evade bombs or rockets when a skilled CV player drops them. what can I do to evade them?

 

Simple Answer. Nothing.

There is no way of Evading Drops from a Skilled CV.

 

You can reduce the Damage you take to some Extend. And make yourself Harder to Hit. Thus Dragging out your Death.

But you have Literally no Chance to actually Evade being Hit by CV Attacks.

 

 

If you want to make yourself annoying to hit. (Assuming you can do Maneuvering without Driving into the Enemy and so on as there is other Enemies on the Field as well).

You keep AA Disabled till your Spotted anyways. If your outside Spotting Range you Disable AA again.

Against Rockets you try to head into the Rockets so he Overshoots you. Against Bombers you show Broadside so he cannot Drop you Properly and against Torpedoes you try to keep a Position where you can Evade the Enemy Drops.

Against Rockets or HE Bombs you Smoke up whenever you can as you take most Damage from them.

 

 

[Excavatus]

The only way to dodge a skilled CV captain,

is becoming uninteresting for them as soon as you can..

 

 

[novents]

1 minute ago, Excavatus said:

The only way to dodge a skilled CV captain,

is becoming uninteresting for them as soon as you can..

 

 

By “uninteresting” he means “dead”