Roma

[Ocsimano18]

Is Roma worth it?

[_HomTanks_]

One can live with or without it. Nothing wow about it except its concealment. 

[Captain_Newman]

That depends - what do you want her for?

 

Friends call her the overpen simulator. I dropped her this christmas, had a great battle in it, but only one, so not exactly the best sample size there. She's well known for her guns being trolly - when they're not trolling the enemy, they're trolling you. Performance wise, I'd much sooner recommend the Lenin in this tier - much more consistent, she's a lot of fun for me with her maneuverability and hard hitting forward-mounted guns. Just don't try to kite away with the Lenin, she can't tank with her behind.

 

If you want the Roma for collector / historical value, then you don't really need our recommendations, she's kind of a no brainer in this regard. She's also quite the looker (if you don't put the beercan on it, but tastes may vary).

 

I don't think she has any competitive value. For randoms, maybe.. if you're willing to put up with the guns trolling you sometimes, and are able to utilize her stealth to get on people's flanks..

 

 

[kapnobathrac]

get the massa

[Captain_Newman]

Just now, kapnobathrac said:

get the massa

 

He has a Massa and Tirpitz already, premium BB wise. I think the only prem t8 bb's worth considering performance wise left in this tier are Lenin and Alabama. The rest can be fun but aren't known for consistency.

[kapnobathrac]

Just now, Captain_Newman said:

 

He has a Massa and Tirpitz already, premium BB wise. I think the only prem t8 bb's worth considering performance wise left in this tier are Lenin and Alabama. The rest can be fun but aren't known for consistency.

Ah then Lenin. Its strong and annoying much like every other ru BB

[josykay]

Roma is fine. Mostly average, yet good concealment. And absolutely great looking.

 

Her greatest weakness is honestly, that she is a relativly useless captain trainer, though she is better suited than both Ducas.

[Captain_Newman]

2 minutes ago, josykay said:

Roma is fine. Mostly average, yet good concealment. And absolutely great looking.

 

Her greatest weakness is honestly, that she is a relativly useless captain trainer, though she is better suited than both Ducas.

 

I mean, italian BB line will come, now that the cruisers are out it's merely a matter of time. If I were to guess I'd have to say somewhere in the second half of 2020 (RN CA's and EU DD's will come first, we'll see what they do with subs, and I'd expect ita bb's some time after these lines are released).

 
And because they are bb's, it's likely a standard bb captain like you would build for a Roma will work great on these ships - so I'd say she does have trainer value, having a high point captain when the new bb's arrive isn't going to hurt, exactly. Ofc, they might release a special captain with the event and in that case you'll want to grind that one for the t10, but still, another trained up captain doesn't exactly hurt.

[Beastofwar]

It is to be played like a SuperCruiser as it's armour does not allow it to brawl BB it's own tier, so it is not a Bismarck although it looks a lot like such a ship.  Last Ranked Sprint 1:1 also made that very clear and not only because the other BB had torpedo's.....it looses gunfights against torpedoless BB it's own tier in brawls too.... It's guns overpen instead of citadel cruisers all the time leading to frustration of a lot of players. But it is unexpectingly good at citadeling other BB at range given opertunity.

 

You can find a good review of it here https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/147798-premium-ship-review-roma/ were my experiences with it is more or less confirmed. I read this before i got Roma btw.

 

I enjoy it however....it is ofcourse more armoured then a Supercruiser which makes it better when you have to fight for caps late match when there are few ships left....

[VanD4rk]

I am also looking to get it with the doublons that I still have but I am a bit reserved about it's ability to be that stealth when there is almost always a CV in the game nowdays.

That review is nice but when it was done the presence of a CV was pretty much non existent.

[_HomTanks_]

4 minutes ago, VanD4rk said:

I am also looking to get it with the doublons that I still have but I am a bit reserved about it's ability to be that stealth when there is almost always a CV in the game nowdays.

That review is nice but when it was done the presence of a CV was pretty much non existent.

If you want a BB that can shoot down more planes than Roma, you could consider Kii as it has the best AA in T8 BBs, and then Lenin alongside MassaAlabama afterwards. Worth noting, none will give you total immunity from a T8 or T10 cv in the long run, Kii appears to be the most durable among others in cv games.

[Malim0o]

From my point if view roma is the worst TVIII BB.

Tankiness and concealement are really good but guns ..... 

Guns are just bad , especialy the dispersion, okay you have a insane pen with the 380 but if you dont hit...

[Filipin00]

I bought her and regret choosing her over Tirpitz, don't make my mistake.

Cheers.

[Ronchabale]

No.

Its ok(ish) for tier 8 doesnt do all that well when uptier, armour ok, guns pen BB:s hard at close range, too much even, will often overpen cruisers, at range dispersion is a problem and in no way reliable, gun range is bad even for tier 8, turret traverse is very good. AA is weak, speed and turning circle ok, concealment is good (and it needs it).

Its not part of a BB:s line so no use as a captain trainer.

MAssa, Alabama, Tirpitz, Kii, Lenin are all better imo

 

Its a beautiful ship but I dont think its worth it if unless u are a collector with bags of money.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

I've seen the Roma top the winning leader board in a tier X match. So, in the right hands it must be fairly good.

[Captain_Newman]

Just now, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

I've seen the Roma top the winning leader board in a tier X match. So, in the right hands it must be fairly good.

 

That doesn't prove anything. You're talking about one battle, there, good players will often top score in a bottom tier ship. I recently top scored in a t10 battle in a stock Hsiengyang (was saving up fxp for the Friesland at the time, hence stock.. wouldn't normally recommend this). It doesn't make the stock Hsiengayang a good ship, it just means one player had the exact right conditions to capitalize on in that battle, and had the means and skill to do it.

[Animalul2012]

Any ship in this game that has unreliable,frustrating guns IS NOT WORTH IT!

[Karasu_Browarszky]

12 minutes ago, Captain_Newman said:

 

That doesn't prove anything. You're talking about one battle, there, good players will often top score in a bottom tier ship. I recently top scored in a t10 battle in a stock Hsiengyang (was saving up fxp for the Friesland at the time, hence stock.. wouldn't normally recommend this). It doesn't make the stock Hsiengayang a good ship, it just means one player had the exact right conditions to capitalize on in that battle, and had the means and skill to do it.

 

Well, yes. That is why I said in the right hands. My Roma, being in the wrong hands, would more likely be placed at opposite end of the losing team.

 

However, I do like the Roma somewhat, I just can't manage the limitations of that ship that well.

[Jvd2000]

Roma is one of the worst t8 premiums next to the Gasgogne. Thats relative because some premiums are actually a bit strong or have special gimmicks to make them fun.. Main problem with the perception of the Roma is that it was released AFTER its small brother the Guilio Cesare, that was too good for its tier. So after the "master race" GC the Roma could only be meh at best.. 

[Beastofwar]

23 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

I've seen the Roma top the winning leader board in a tier X match. So, in the right hands it must be fairly good.

 

Yes that is what it can be good at.....citadelling T IX-X BB that do not expect it from a "mere" T8.

 

But when they shoot back there may be problem....that is why i consider it more a SuperCruiser then a BB.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

6 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

 

Yes that is what it can be good at.....citadelling T IX-X BB that do not expect it from a "mere" T8.

 

But when they shoot back there may be problem....that is why i consider it more a SuperCruiser then a BB.

 

You mean.. some kind of hit and run tactics might work best?

[22cm]

5 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Is Roma worth it?

 

It is the 3rd best premium tier 8 BB, so it is. Only Massa and Lenin are better:

 

[Aragathor]

20 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

But when they shoot back there may be problem

You have no idea how to play the Roma, but as you are hiding your stats we all see your opinion has no value.

 

Roma has one of the strongest armor schemes in the game. When properly angled Yamato guns can't hurt you. And the guns can hurt a Yamato back.

The great concealment allows you to reposition easily. Another hidden strength, the turrets rotate fast even without EM.

 

5 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Is Roma worth it?

Only if you are willing to learn how to properly angle.

[Captain_Newman]

3 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

You have no idea how to play the Roma, but as you are hiding your stats we all see your opinion has no value.

 

Roma has one of the strongest armor schemes in the game. When properly angled Yamato guns can't hurt you. And the guns can hurt a Yamato back.

The great concealment allows you to reposition easily. Another hidden strength, the turrets rotate fast even without EM.

 

Only if you are willing to learn how to properly angle.

 

Thank you. I was going to point that out, but I already know how convos with him go.

[Malim0o]

32 minutes ago, 22cm said:

 

It is the 3rd best premium tier 8 BB, so it is. Only Massa and Lenin are better:

 

So Tirpitz is the worst BB TVIII premium follow by the Gascogne ?...