[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,043 battles Report post #1 Posted December 28, 2019 What drunken fool decided this was a good idea? CA vs BB 37k hp vs 69k? bugger that 2 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #2 Posted December 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, DB2212 said: What drunken fool decided this was a good idea? CA vs BB 37k hp vs 69k? fcuk that Just wait till you meet a CV. The fun that is getting a quarter of your hp removed after not even a minute passed and you'll just continue trying to dodge the inevitable, until you finally sink.At least some BB you can try to shoot back. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #3 Posted December 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sleepy_Bunny said: Just wait till you meet a CV. The fun that is getting a quarter of your hp removed after not even a minute passed and you'll just continue trying to dodge the inevitable, until you finally sink.At least some BB you can try to shoot back. Most CVs that I've met in Edin I've killed (barely but still). And they were average in stats. Meanwhile every potato in Tripitz can can just go bow in into the caps and melt me only with his secondary armament way faster than I can get him with main guns. Not saying even about AP. Can't even yolo torp him as he has more torps then I have as well. Surprisingly low number of DDs there. Mostly I've seen French turbo yolos. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #4 Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, DariusJacek said: Most CVs that I've met in Edin I've killed (barely but still). And they were average in stats. Meanwhile every potato in Tripitz can can just go bow in into the caps and melt me only with his secondary armament way faster than I can get him with main guns. Not saying even about AP. Can't even yolo torp him as he has more torps then I have as well. Surprisingly low number of DDs there. Mostly I've seen French turbo yolos. Well. You wont find many Good CVs anymore at this Time. Good CVs effectively Ranked Out within a few Hours.... So now you dont need to worry about CVs that much anymore. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #5 Posted December 28, 2019 Looks the balans of CV play was once again proven. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAZY] Garfield4 Beta Tester 136 posts 17,429 battles Report post #6 Posted December 28, 2019 This round of ranked is... an unintended promotion for the "successfull carrier rework "' , as shown by the results of the Entreprise and Graf Zeppelin pay-to-win carriers. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #7 Posted December 28, 2019 Now there's a challenge: to wreck the Carrier success rate...... I acquired a Graf Zeppelin Black during Black Friday but am completely useless in Carriers, as in can't hit a single ship....... But in an Atago I've dealt with a carrier, a few Bismarcks & Tirpitzs The German stuff is easy, make them chase you, wiggle your stern whilst dumping torpedoes and they explode 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt_Skeeve Players 26 posts 20,581 battles Report post #8 Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Molly_Delaney said: But in an Atago I've dealt with a carrier, a few Bismarcks & Tirpitzs Yeah, an Atago can hadle them with a bit of luck or an overconfident enemy. But it's an exercise in frustration as their secondaries rip you apart while you wait for those torps to hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Bear__Necessities Players 5,291 posts 15,379 battles Report post #9 Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Molly_Delaney said: Now there's a challenge: to wreck the Carrier success rate...... I acquired a Graf Zeppelin Black during Black Friday but am completely useless in Carriers, as in can't hit a single ship....... But in an Atago I've dealt with a carrier, a few Bismarcks & Tirpitzs The German stuff is easy, make them chase you, wiggle your stern whilst dumping torpedoes and they explode It makes me both depressed at how many bad CV players there seems to be out there. But laugh at how many bad CV’s players are at least being punished in 1 v 1 as they no longer have a team to hide behind and use excuses. When I lost yesterday in Enterprise it was coz I f’d up (2 games) or was beaten by the better players (the other few losses) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #10 Posted December 28, 2019 If you wanna play something OP just play Tirpitz, the thing cant lose, except against another Tirpitz. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #11 Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Floofz said: If you wanna play something OP just play Tirpitz, the thing cant lose, except against another Tirpitz. I beat around 5 or 6 of them in my GZ tough ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Floofz ∞ Players 1,246 posts 7,392 battles Report post #12 Posted December 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sunleader said: I beat around 5 or 6 of them in my GZ tough ^^ I havent seen a single DD or a CV thou. Seems like it tries to match you up with the same class as I only face BBs and the odd cruiser. Yesterday when I played Enterprise and GZ I saw a LOT of CVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #13 Posted December 28, 2019 It is not the ship type that ensures victory. It is your skill and knowledge playing that particular ship. Here is a so called overpowered GZ for you killed by my secondaries.....yeah LEXINGTON secondaries ! In Cruisers can be very easy to win from BB : just don't do any smart flanking stuff, you will just catch disastrous heavy salvo's and be set on fire by 6-10 km secondary batteries all the time that way. Charge them head on ( most shells will miss such a small surface , unless you are unlucky and get a frontal pen ) and topedo them short range before they can turn their slow rotating guns at you. Watching where the lumbering slow turrets point at and outflanking these is what Cruisers and DD do to kill BB...and you do this so close you can grab its anchor chain ! Not at medium or long range..... That is the long and short of it. Against CV you need to use the rudder and your throttle ( change direction and speed all the time when under attack ) to survive as Cruiser, and prefarably in between strikes can travel very fast to where the CV is. Watch where the returning planes are going, not where the attacking planes come from. Be sure to pass the caps on your way to the CV. If you survive long enough it is a win then too, even if you dont catch the CV to kill it. And GZ's ? Just torpedo and shoot them....they are coming to the cap, so you don't have to chase them. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SVX] albin322 Players 1,850 posts 20,871 battles Report post #14 Posted December 28, 2019 prins eugen is a best i winn against cvs easy rush and torp bbs yes eaven tirpitzes stands no chanse german hydro for dds. the heal makes it possible to survive cvs awsome ship1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #15 Posted December 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Floofz said: I havent seen a single DD or a CV thou. Seems like it tries to match you up with the same class as I only face BBs and the odd cruiser. Yesterday when I played Enterprise and GZ I saw a LOT of CVs. Nope. Out of the 36 Ranked Matches I had. I think I met about 10 CVs yesterday which Suggests a Fairly even Spread. But that was Yesterday as well. The Reason you dont meet any more CV at this Time. Is because pretty much all of the Competent CVs are Done with Ranked. Pretty much all of them Finished Ranked either Yesterday or Early this Morning. So by now pretty much none of the CV Mains are Left in Ranked. Thats why Yesterday you could still find alot of CV. But Today its likely going to be a Rare Occurence to find one at all. And in most cases it will not be Players who are CV Primary. We actually said this Yesterday. If you dont want to meet CV. Just wait 1 or 2 Days and all of the Dangerous CVs will be gone. Because they just Ranked out so Easily. 5 minutes ago, Beastofwar said: It is not the ship type that ensures victory. It is your skill and knowledge playing that particular ship. Here is a so called overpowered GZ for you killed by my secondaries.....yeah LEXINGTON secondaries ! I am Sorry. But do you think if you just Repeat this Rubbish often enough the Answer you get will Change or Something ? I think we told you often enough now. That you Killing some Random Potato who couldnt hit the Broadside of a Barn from 5 meters away is not really Impressing anyone. You can Repeat this Rubbish another 500 Times. But the Answer will always be the Same. Which is that of course even a Cavemen can Beat a Modern Soldier to Death with his Club as long as that Modern Soldier is such a Stupid Idiot that he wont hit the Cavemen running at him over 500m open field. Not everyone actually Runs a Secondary Build on GZ. And without the Secondary Build the GZ is Simply the Weakest T8 CV in the Game. So Congratulations. You used the Third Strongest T8 CV in the Game to Beat the Weakest T8 CV in the Game ;) I am Proud of You :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[0SHIT] beaveer Players 5 posts 3,516 battles Report post #16 Posted December 28, 2019 I've had 4 games in a row versus carriers now, and I'd like to deliver a special message to WarGaming: [edited]you, you massive pieces of soviet garbage. Best regards, A WOWs player. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #17 Posted December 28, 2019 Sunleader weren't you ranked out ? You do not participate in current battles - now counter tactics begin to evolve - so do not matter anymore. Too soon too fast....bye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UAC] Filipin00 Players 662 posts 2,569 battles Report post #18 Posted December 28, 2019 Wait, is the OP the guy in Charles Martel that I sunk with my Bismarck roflmao? edit: if you are, know that I am sorry, but that's literally what I've been getting being paired with all the Tirpitzes edit2: I checked the replay, it wasn't you, but still I sympathize with you. This ranked season is the worst of all I played. Idk whose dumb idea it was to play 1v1 in this format where dd can be paired with bb, ca/cl with bb and bb/dd with a cv.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #19 Posted December 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Beastofwar said: Sunleader weren't you ranked out ? You do not participate in current battles - now counter tactics begin to evolve - so do matter anymore. Too soon too fast....bye. Except ranked gets easier the more time passes. Aka so called "counter tactics" actually will decline over time even if they did exist in the first place. So in reality by waiting you've made your experience completely irrelevant as per your own standards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SYD] Molly_Delaney Players 1,200 posts 4,600 battles Report post #20 Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, El2aZeR said: Except ranked gets easier the more time passes. Which is exactly why I'm going slow. Let the good/great players rank out and its easier for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Starchy_Tuber Players 867 posts 11,120 battles Report post #21 Posted December 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Except ranked gets easier the more time passes. Aka so called "counter tactics" actually will decline over time even if they did exist in the first place. And now let the age of potato CVs begin.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BHSFL] Beastofwar [BHSFL] Players 4,596 posts Report post #22 Posted December 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Except ranked gets easier the more time passes. Aka so called "counter tactics" actually will decline over time even if they did exist in the first place. No that is a misconception. The fast guys that abuse shock-type well performing ships ( premiums ) are gone then, ranked out already. Players then develop tactics against such ships and foul play ends, real play begins then. It is a ( very old ) saying you should never fight the same enemy for too long....as he will adapt and your tactics will not work anymore. It is true. Many despots fell that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #23 Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beastofwar said: No that is a misconception. The fast guys that abuse shock-type well performing ships ( premiums ) are gone then.....foul play ends and real play begins then. It's not. It is a well proven fact gathered from data across multiple seasons. Unless ofc you can prove it with hard data otherwise? Do be careful tho, it would heavily contradict your statement above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A7] Captain_Bloodless Players 168 posts 35,563 battles Report post #24 Posted December 28, 2019 People keep complaining about ships. I played bismarck which is silver ship. Piece of cake to R1. Meet some cv in the process, never lost to them. But it's easier to complain about ships or mode instead of working on yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunleader Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 5,710 posts 13,400 battles Report post #25 Posted December 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Captain_Bloodless said: People keep complaining about ships. I played bismarck which is silver ship. Piece of cake to R1. Meet some cv in the process, never lost to them. But it's easier to complain about ships or mode instead of working on yourself. Oh. Yeah. I need to work on myself so Hard Man. I suck soo much I have to Blame it all on poor Ships and Balans xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
