I am a new player

[Count_Knersis]

Hi, everyone

 

My name is Count Knersis

 

I am a new player in WoW. I enjoy this strategy game very much. For the last 4 months I have played it, I learnt that there is much I do not know yet. I am subscribed to Pantzer to learn and understand the theory of it all but I know that putting it into motion is a different story.

 

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has and how many aa guns that destroyer has and what makes certain battleships better that others. I remember at the start was to overcome tunnel vision! ;)

 

The chatbox will probably always be spicy and salty, so for now I would like some guidance into 2 cruisers I can practise with to become a better player, taking into consideration that I have only trusted a Kuma up to this point. I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

[Excavatus]

Wellcome to forum Count!

 

If you ask me this is a very nice start... Which we haven't seen for a long time :)

 

I won't make it long, because I trust our long time forum goers will come and share their knowledge with you.

 

My opinion is, you do not need to memorize everything about every ship,

you'll learn them on the way, trust me. But If you are interested, It is a very nice hobby to check wows wiki time to time.

But best way to learn about a ship is playing it yourself.

 

You've said kuma, I say good choice of line.

IJN CA line is one of the strong and versatile lines in the game and not sitting towards the top on the scale of skill floor.

I suggest you go up a couple more steps If you think you've learned the basics. Because tier 4 is really good to learn the game but not to improve.

My advice is go up to tier 6 - 7 and stay around there for a while. Those tiers will teach you much much more.

 

Then keep a track of your stats, not to inflate your e-peen but keep an eye of your progress.

you can always compare yourself with the general population on wows numbers.. which will help you to understand what are you doing wrong / right.

 

and keep asking questions.. If you are struggling with something, ask here.. trust me these guys are great, If you don't act like an all knowing jerk, which you don't seem like :)

one another note, If you don't know what you do wrong but still feel you are struggling, just share a couple replays here..

There are lunatics here who will watch, analyse and report back on your replays..

But all comes to one reason actually.. we really need intelligent and willing to learn players in this community.. they are rare like oxygen on mars :D

 

Wellcome again...

 

PS: dear forum users.. this one looks like a little bit intelligent.. don't scare him away! at least not yet.. wait until he discorvers smolensk!

[Count_Knersis]

Thank you, Excavatus, for your time and guidance. Without it I would not have had the courage to type one letter. Thanks!

[Excavatus]

1 minute ago, Count_Knersis said:

Thank you, Excavatus, for your time and guidance. Without it I would not have had the courage to type one letter. Thanks!

Np mate,

We need people who are willing to learn here as I've said.

 

One more advice,

This is an internet community. People always can hide behind anonimity..

Just ignore the negative and focus on positive.. thats all I can say..

If you ignore.. they will wither away silently.

[LadyJess]

23 minutes ago, Count_Knersis said:

Hi, everyone

 

My name is Count Knersis

 

I am a new player in WoW. I enjoy this strategy game very much. For the last 4 months I have played it, I learnt that there is much I do not know yet. I am subscribed to Pantzer to learn and understand the theory of it all but I know that putting it into motion is a different story.

 

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has and how many aa guns that destroyer has and what makes certain battleships better that others. I remember at the start was to overcome tunnel vision! ;)

 

The chatbox will probably always be spicy and salty, so for now I would like some guidance into 2 cruisers I can practise with to become a better player, taking into consideration that I have only trusted a Kuma up to this point. I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

Welcome and hi . Kuma is a great cruiser, a bit squishy but, otherwise very fast guns and a great DD chaser. Best to move and shoot at range with this cruiser.

I am on the EU server on the weekends. If you happen to see me online, just give a shout at anytime and i will be happy to lend you a hand.

[Count_Knersis]

I am on the EU server as well. I will remember your name.

[Ocsimano18]

Advice for beginners: grind the russian BB line. Very strong ships all along.

[iFax]

 

Play in divisions, team work will boost your knowledge base very quickly.

Each national tech tree has certain characteristics, once you get to know these your skill level will rise, for example, IJN torps are fairly fast so they have a longer detection range when compared to other nations.

[Count_Knersis]

I normally play 4 hour stints two or three times a week. Sometimes it is barren because I try to support or protect the base and other times we lose our dds too soon and I try to take their place to spot. (which is stupid)

 

Tonight I had my best run ever over 12 battles. On average I sunk 3,5. I know that it means nothing at T4 but I got some confidence out of it. This is why I am here. Blunt luck can not take me any further. It is time to ask the right questions so as to learn. Where will I be in 2 years, is the thought process..

[loppantorkel]

1 hour ago, Count_Knersis said:

Hi, everyone

 

My name is Count Knersis

 

I am a new player in WoW. I enjoy this strategy game very much. For the last 4 months I have played it, I learnt that there is much I do not know yet. I am subscribed to Pantzer to learn and understand the theory of it all but I know that putting it into motion is a different story.

 

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has and how many aa guns that destroyer has and what makes certain battleships better that others. I remember at the start was to overcome tunnel vision! ;)

 

The chatbox will probably always be spicy and salty, so for now I would like some guidance into 2 cruisers I can practise with to become a better player, taking into consideration that I have only trusted a Kuma up to this point. I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

Welcome to the forums and good luck!

1 hour ago, Excavatus said:

Wellcome to forum Count!

...

PS: dear forum users.. this one looks like a little bit intelligent.. don't scare him away! at least not yet.. wait until he discorvers smolensk!

Have you ever wondered what your experience would be if WG managed to make AI behave more intelligent than humans in game, more friendly in chat and forums, and the filled the game with them?

[Excavatus]

1 minute ago, loppantorkel said:

AI behave more intelligent than humans in game, more friendly in chat and forums, and the filled the game with them?

stop making me dream!!

I don't like to get dissappointed in the end...

 

you know we have a clan member,

who played this game almost full solo for 12K battles before I've found him.

and he once told me when I asked how did he managed to stay that long alone!

he said, "I always played this as a single player game with very poorly coded bots on either side"

 

That.. that.. was deep :D

[Count_Knersis]

"hold on to your seat, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bey-bey, lolz!

[SirBlemmingtonSmythe]

34 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

you know we have a clan member,

who played this game almost full solo for 12K battles before I've found him.

and he once told me when I asked how did he managed to stay that long alone!

he said, "I always played this as a single player game with very poorly coded bots on either side"

Apart from the odd game with my son, I play exactly the same! 

 

@Count_Knersis welcome to the forums, how fab to see someone with interest and the intelligence to reach out and ask for advice. Good stuff! As @Excavatus said, ignore the negative and use the positive to your advantage, there are some really useful guys on here for knowledge and they will gladly give it you, sometimes when you don't really want it  

The main thing is, enjoy it, Illegitimi non carborundum.

[Molly_Delaney]

One thing which helped me a lot was to post a replay and ask for advice.

That way the experienced players can see how you play and offer targeted advice.

 

Follow it and it does work.....

[MrWastee]

2 hours ago, Count_Knersis said:

Hi, everyone

 

My name is Count Knersis

 

I am a new player in WoW. I enjoy this strategy game very much. For the last 4 months I have played it, I learnt that there is much I do not know yet. I am subscribed to Pantzer to learn and understand the theory of it all but I know that putting it into motion is a different story.

 

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has and how many aa guns that destroyer has and what makes certain battleships better that others. I remember at the start was to overcome tunnel vision! ;)

 

The chatbox will probably always be spicy and salty, so for now I would like some guidance into 2 cruisers I can practise with to become a better player, taking into consideration that I have only trusted a Kuma up to this point. I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

for ijn:

- work with ur concealment (aKa get familiar with spotting mechanics)

- don't be 1st line and stay cautious in the 2nd (if no dd's around u  usually outspot most other ships)

- never 2nd line torp until u got safety in how torps and match dynamics like each other.... or simply put, best approach: never 2nd line torp! ;)

- shoot HE all along, xcept for around 12km broadside cruisers (later on BB's as well)

 

i endorse going for german cruisers, referring on a 2nd line. they're good kiters in the lower tiers and tankier in the upper, while not bringin the best HE but good AP and overall a very versatile experience. gl, welcome aboard

 

[Lieut_Gruber]

Hello Count, and welcome. My 2 cents to this thread: find division mates who know all this stuff. I used to play divisions with 2 WoWs wiki nerds and we used TS, so every time i was in need for some info i just screamed on teamspeak 

[DFens_666]

Can only say, better to post a replay or 2 so we know which level you at.

Otherwise we need to guess what you should/shouldnt do

 

You shouldnt worry about exact mechanics and values just yet. It will distract you from learning the basics. For most of us it took years to learn all those aspects. And if you are willing to learn, you will do so by just playing and observing what happens in certain situations.

I still remember back when i got Missouri and i didnt have any T9-10 BB at that time. Was a Montana bowtanking me, and i was like "can i shoot his bow or not?". Just tried it, it bounced, so i knew. Sometimes the game does weird crap tho, so learning by doing doesnt always work, as you can get a different result in like 0,1% of the times. (Citadels which shouldnt be possible f.e.).

[TruePhoenix]

Welcome Comrade Count,

 

I played the game awhile ago and dropped it as Elite Dangerous was draining my available time, along with X4. I came back to it earlier this year and potato'd around for awhile. I asked for some help in a thread and was generously rewarded with a whole bunch of hints, tips and all round good ideas. It helped my game a lot. Rather than reproduce it, here is a link to the thread.

 

 Chronicle of Potato

 

GL

[ForlornSailor]

3 hours ago, Count_Knersis said:

I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

 

Nah, (some) people can get really chatty here and shower you with advice all day long . Welcome to the forums.

 

About specific advice: Its always kinda hard to give individual advice on what exactly to do better, since we cant really tell how you play. Upload 2 or 3 recent replays (they are in the folder of your game in \replays) and we can check if you are too agressive, too passive, pick the right targets etc.

 

Now cruisers in general: on the lower tiers, the differences between the nations are not that distinct yet. That really starts to develop from T6 upwards. If I should suggest a second cruiser line to start : french.

 

3 hours ago, Count_Knersis said:

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has

 

This is a common problem and its getting harder over the years for new players, since WG keeps putting up new lines in the game. There is no easy answer to this, only that it will get better over time. Yet here I am and sometimes still asking my division mates in panic about the torpedo range of a specific DD sometimes... Start like this: remember the characteristics of the nations. like russian DDs, they spam a lot of torpedos on lower tiers but their range is limited. Japanese on the other hand throw only a couple but they have longer range. This holds true across the entire line. The details come with time. Or - if you want to go there - install a mod from the offical modpack. There is one, which shows you torpedos range , gun range and concealment and other stuff next to the name of each ship. Looks like this:

 

 

I dont use it tho so someone else will have to help you out, which one exactly it is. imo - it makes you lazy tho with learning the numbers, but these days, I can see the value for new players, since its just too much to memorize.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

4 hours ago, Count_Knersis said:

Hi, everyone

 

My name is Count Knersis

 

I am a new player in WoW. I enjoy this strategy game very much. For the last 4 months I have played it, I learnt that there is much I do not know yet. I am subscribed to Pantzer to learn and understand the theory of it all but I know that putting it into motion is a different story.

 

I have read a lot of what you discuss on a daily basis and sometimes it makes me feel to give up.. because I do not know how many torpedos every dd has and how many aa guns that destroyer has and what makes certain battleships better that others. I remember at the start was to overcome tunnel vision! ;)

 

The chatbox will probably always be spicy and salty, so for now I would like some guidance into 2 cruisers I can practise with to become a better player, taking into consideration that I have only trusted a Kuma up to this point. I know that the feeling of competition is very high here, but if you could share some knowledge, it would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

Go on youtube and watch and listen to CC's that know their business, which excludes Jingles, that's for grown ups.

[Ronchabale]

Welcome !

My advice:

play multiple lines of ships destroyers, cruisers, battleships, carriers also play different nations shiplines

try to get to a (recent) winrate of at least 50% before playing higher tiers, around tier 6 is a good place to learn, it can get very "salty" at higher tiers if you misplay

lookup guides on ship tactics on youtube (Flamu and Notser)

 

Good luck and I will see you out there 

 

 

 

[olgreggsmangina]

Welcome m8 I’m eu too, feel free to hit me up with any questions and I will do my best to help.

[talpadragos]

good luck, man

[Cyclops_]

@Count_Knersis PM sent.

[Lakedaemonios]

buy a mic and come to our clan. we can play together and speak in the battle.

IF u can forgive my English....