GORIZIA ...

[MNR1978]

hey all, sorry but i don't know is there a topic about GORIZIA or not!

can i ask wows developing team what is the point of developing her!?
imbalanced at every point, no concealment and gun range nor fire power, i think this ship must be in tier 5 not tier 7.
i don't know but there is only 2 options to develop this ship with this character's
1- wows developing team believe that they are developing ships for insane people!
2- insane people working in wows developing team!
so sorry but that is the true fact.
offer this ship with painful missions or that count of doubloons is insane! 

[KillStealBoss]

I will disagree 

[MNR1978]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

I will disagree 

Ok, can you please attach a video of on battle that you played with it, i want to know how your playing style?

[Beastofwar]

It is prurpose built ( WG says this themselves )  for following your DD at very close distance, smoking up while full speed when enemy DD detects you and it's Cruiser and BB backup begins to aim for you so they lose aim, and upon enemy DD detection by your DD you rip it apart with SAP ( and at almost any angle that why SAP is so deadly to DD ) Either you or the friendly DD get the kill, but you remove the enemy DD with this.

 

And then hopefully escape before the smoke runs out and/or you are full speed headed away from those that want revenge for their blapped DD.

 

It works well enough......done it many times. But it is a 1 trick gimmick that when used often by masses of Gorizia's, everyone will expect what your are about to do. Outside that it is only powerfull when AP broadisding other cruisers. You often have little influence over the batte due to not being able to damage enemies with HE/fire.

 

Ah and a common mistake is firing in that smoke on approach.....the gun flare is bigger then the cloud and gives you away while in smoke. So when you smoke up full speed, dont fire untill you can blap the DD in one or twoo salvo's, and immediatly turn your back on your persuiers so they can only hit your ( small ) stern surface before you fade out of detection range. ( their spotting DD should be dead )

 

 

[MNR1978]

[KillStealBoss]

4 minutes ago, MNR1978 said:

Ok, can you please attach a video of on battle that you played with it, i want to know how your playing style?

I have almost similar stats on my Zara 

 

[MNR1978]

there is my all games stats with all tier 7 ships that i have played before, i don't call my self as good player but i know how to play. please just check it, maybe i am wrong but i know this ships is imbalanced at every point.

[MNR1978]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

I have almost similar stats on my Zara 

 

maybe the f@cking MM of the game love you so much but for me 80% i saw tier 9 match with both.

[KillStealBoss]

4 minutes ago, MNR1978 said:

Well mate this means your don't know how to use SAP. And when to switch to normal AP. Cause few times I did oneshot a cruiser on Zara/Gorizia. And DDs get massacred. BBs are the tricky thing cause after they get saturated - they receive laughable damage. 

[lafeel]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

Well mate this means your don't know how to use SAP. And when to switch to normal AP. Cause few times I did oneshot a cruiser on Zara/Gorizia. And DDs get massacred. BBs are the tricky thing cause after they get saturated - they receive laughable damage. 

Said it when they announced the SAP shells that knowing when to do this will make or break your ability to play this line..

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, MNR1978 said:

maybe the f@cking MM of the game love you so much but for me 80% i saw tier 9 match with both.

No problem T9 battle. Had few of them on Gorizia and Zara ( I had Zara before release) and was fine. Yeah I know there are monsters like Musashi and JB. But you need to be careful regardless the tier of a BB. 

[Hanse77SWE]

I found out two good thing about her.

 

1: Very tight salvos.

2: Long range hydro. (4/6 km.)

[MNR1978]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

Well mate this means your don't know how to use SAP. And when to switch to normal AP. Cause few times I did oneshot a cruiser on Zara/Gorizia. And DDs get massacred. BBs are the tricky thing cause after they get saturated - they receive laughable damage. 

I know when time to use AP or SAP, but that is not make any change when you face a tier 9 French JB. But with reload booster. 

[KillStealBoss]

3 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Said it when they announced the SAP shells that knowing when to do this will make or break your ability to play this line..

Yeah it's a tricky ammo, not for new players at all. 

If you see JB you run ASAP with your smoke. You have to be in control of minimap. The good thing about Italians is their rudder. Just maneuver as hard as possible .

[lafeel]

Just now, MacArthur92 said:

Yeah it's a tricky ammo, not for new players at all. 

Contrary to popular belief this does not make this a bad line however.

[MNR1978]

Just now, Hanse77SWE said:

I found out two good thing about her.

 

1: Very tight salvos.

2: Long range hydro. (4/6 km.)

Dude you are spotted all the time and you smoke duration is too low

[lafeel]

Just now, MNR1978 said:

Dude you are spotted all the time and you smoke duration is too low

Have you even tried using CE?

[MNR1978]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

Yeah it's a tricky ammo, not for new players at all. 

oh, new players ... 

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, MNR1978 said:

oh, new players ... 

I'm not telling you that you're new... I'm just telling you this line is harder. It's not like the RN. But if you utilize what you have - it's pretty strong. 

I mentioned new players cause sometimes I see some 400+ guys in them and they fail miserably. 

[MNR1978]

Just now, lafeel said:

Have you even tried using CE?

are you kidding me, for sure !!! but with 12.2 concealment you are spotted all the time and there is no where to escape, only if you make a division with a US DD player, lol

[KillStealBoss]

Just now, MNR1978 said:

are you kidding me, for sure !!! but with 12.2 concealment you are spotted all the time and there is no where to escape, only if you make a division with a US DD player, lol

Don't play on it too aggressive then. Have a DD with you. Italian cruiser with no DD is dead and can't do shieet. 

[Ubertron_X]

15 minutes ago, Beastofwar said:

It is prurpose built ( WG says this themselves )  for following your DD at very close distance, smoking up while full speed when enemy DD detects you and it's Cruiser and BB backup begins to aim for you so they lose aim, and upon enemy DD detection by your DD you rip it apart with SAP ( and at almost any angle that why SAP is so deadly to DD ).

When in a DD and an enemy Italian cruiser is spotted in between 10-12km and you are sure a DD or CV spot is probable / imminent.

 

 

[lafeel]

2 minutes ago, MNR1978 said:

are you kidding me, for sure !!! but with 12.2 concealment you are spotted all the time and there is no where to escape, only if you make a division with a US DD player, lol

Well stop being right on the front line then..

[Ocsimano18]

The thing is that all SAP ships should have the Venezia SAP angles, but WG nerfed them to motivate people to get to tier 10 ASAP burning freeXP reserves. Sad.

[MNR1978]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

I'm not telling you that you're new... I'm just telling you this line is harder. It's not like the RN. But if you utilize what you have - it's pretty strong. 

I mentioned new players cause sometimes I see some 400+ guys in them and they fail miserably. 

No, i disagree with you, this ship imbalanced compare to other tier 7 ships even if there is some player like you that make him good, why because there is no knowledge about your MM or team mates but for me it is suck ....