More historical IJN ships, please!

[MementoMori_6030]

I would like to see some more of the venerable IJN ships implemented here:

Ise-class hybrid battleship/carrier

Tone-class aviation cruiser

Nagara-class light cruiser

Oyodo-class light cruiser

Nisshin-class seaplane tender

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

I second this! Indubitably!

[Fonfalks]

No, only OP Russian ships from future with smoke that lasts all game, radar with 20 km range and self guided missiles that citadel everything and have range of 40 km and speed 50 kts and armor like Kremlin X2 ok? Because after FFF Smolensk it is only logical to go with that. 

[Egoleter]

Just now, Fonfalks said:

self guided missiles that citadel everything and have range of 40 km and speed 50 kts

That's one slow missile there.

[El2aZeR]

Hybrid ships aren't happening.

Low tier premiums don't sell.

[MementoMori_6030]

Gerade eben, El2aZeR sagte:

Hybrid ships aren't happening.

Low tier premiums don't sell.

We soon get an entire hybrid class. They call it submarines. I call it submersible guided missile destroyers.

And I have bought every single historical IJN low tier premium ship like T2 Tachibana, T3 Katori, T4 Yubari... because. <3

[El2aZeR]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

We soon get an entire hybrid class. They call it submarines. I call it submersible guided missile destroyers.

And I have bought every single historical IJN low tier premium ship like T2 Tachibana, T3 Katori, T4 Yubari... because. <3

 

Which is completely different.

That should tell you everything you need to know. Collectors will buy them, others will not unless ofc they're somehow op. This limits the potential market for an already low priced ship, aka potential revenue is either low or even in red.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 2 Minuten, El2aZeR sagte:

 

Which is completely different.

That should tell you everything you need to know. Collectors will buy them, others will not unless ofc they're somehow op. This limits the potential market for an already low priced ship, aka potential revenue is either low or even in red.

If revenue is everything... why aren't there ships with 50 main guns, long range torpedoes and adamantium armor already? If OP is all that sells... step up the power creep, WG. Which won't in any kind keep me from playing underdog crap ships as long as they were real.

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

If revenue is everything... why aren't there ships with 50 main guns, long range torpedoes and adamantium armor already? If OP is all that sells... step up the power creep, WG. Which won't in any kind keep me from playing underdog crap ships as long as they were real.

It is in almost every business you come across, especially with the gaming industry being incredibly lazy and scummy recently with spending tactics and the like. Also with how games are made they take a lot of time and effort and you can very easily go bankrupt compared to most.

 

I don't agree with it but i understand, they won't make something with a very limited niche potential market revenue when they have to pay bills for electricity renting out server space, buildings, software licences and subscriptions etc.

So it adds up in the end.

 

It's why most famous ships aren't in the game yet unless they will be tier 6+ where making money is more or less guranteed.

Hope this helps clear somethings about the gaming industry in general.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

It is in almost every business you come across, especially with the gaming industry being incredibly lazy and scummy recently with spending tactics and the like. ....

 

 

We are so fortunate that WG is not one of those scummy scummy gaming corporations, aren't we.

 

I'd like to see more Japanese ships, for some reason we are not getting the same kind of attention on Japanese anything neither in WoWS or in WoT. Though Wot is far worse in this regard... I'd like to see Japanese special captains, Japanese ships for resources, and yes, new Japanese premium ships and potentially new branches as well.

[CptBarney]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

We are so fortunate that WG is not one of those scummy scummy gaming corporations, aren't we.

indeed maybe that nice snail outside in the garden could help us...

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

I'd like to see more Japanese ships, for some reason we are not getting the same kind of attention on Japanese anything neither in WoWS or in WoT. Though Wot is far worse in this regard... I'd like to see Japanese special captains, Japanese ships for resources, and yes, new Japanese premium ships and potentially new branches as well.

Same, i would like to see lusty, yorkie and hornet as well. I mean they probs would fetch quite a bit of moneh, but they are cv's and arent that popular so probably not.

surprised japan doesn't have second cruiser line yet or even bb line at this point.

 

dont think on wurld of danks they even have TD's yet and a proper medium and light tech tree line as well. just the fat sumo wrestler heavies lol.

[El2aZeR]

20 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

If revenue is everything... why aren't there ships with 50 main guns, long range torpedoes and adamantium armor already? If OP is all that sells... step up the power creep, WG. Which won't in any kind keep me from playing underdog crap ships as long as they were real.

 

Isn't it obvious? If the power creep is too hard players will leave.

[ImperialAdmiral]

I wouldn't mind a premium Kagero or Yuugumo also.

[josykay]

30 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Hybrid ships aren't happening.

Low tier premiums don't sell.

Yeah, but I think Tone and Maya would be fairly ok  Tier 8 CAs, Tone could have a similiar short duration  like Lazo on the spotter plane, or even have, unique layout of being capable of launching the spotter and the fighter on different consumable slots. Meanwhile Maya having a stronger AA suit, compared to her sisters Takao and Atago.

[DanSilverwing]

A line split for IJN Heavy and Light cruisers is an intriguing notion. Is there a tree proposal for the ignorant layman to peruse?

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 11 Minuten, DanSilverwing sagte:

A line split for IJN Heavy and Light cruisers is an intriguing notion. Is there a tree proposal for the ignorant layman to peruse?

As we have those already up to T5 (Tenryu/Katori, Kuma/Yubari, Yahagi), Oyodo might serve as T6. Agano as class lead ship at T5 is also a possibility. Beyond T6, there would only paper ships, and I reject those.

[MementoMori_6030]

Vor 17 Minuten, josykay sagte:

Yeah, but I think Tone and Maya would be fairly ok  Tier 8 CAs, Tone could have a similiar short duration  like Lazo on the spotter plane, or even have, unique layout of being capable of launching the spotter and the fighter on different consumable slots. Meanwhile Maya having a stronger AA suit, compared to her sisters Takao and Atago.

With Tone having less guns than the T7 Myoko and T8 Takao class, her increased aircraft complement would need to be treated like one or two regular squadrons to compensate for her lack of firepower.

[Major_Damage225]

2 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

I would like to see some more of the venerable IJN ships implemented here:

Ise-class hybrid battleship/carrier

Tone-class aviation cruiser

Nagara-class light cruiser

Oyodo-class light cruiser

Nisshin-class seaplane tender

 

I always support any idea for extra ship, especially IJN to come ingame. But:

-Ise/Hyuga as a T5 premium BB non hybrid because atm i cant see that working ingame. 

-Nagara, cool

-Oyodo, cool

-Tone, would be about time lel

-Nisshin seaplane tender, i dont see that working because well, seaplane tender, it wouldnt fit in wows, i see that way anyway. 

You also have:

-Yamashiro T6

-Oi

-CV Akagi 

Also you have dozens of DD's from T2 onward. 

Ooh and then there is the.... Puts on helment..... Ehem..... T8 Kitakami 

 

EDIT: how about a IJN Atlanta/Smolensk? 

 

12x2 100mm anyone 

 

EDIT 2: You can always add BB No13 as a Musashi replacment at T9 

4x2 460mm guns 

 

EDIT3: i found this pic a while ago while being on a browsing binge, only thing i could understand is Senkan, im asuming the name. Looks like T8/T9 material, guns im assuming to be 4x2 mabe 4x3 410mm.

[Amon_ITA]

51 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Which is completely different.

That should tell you everything you need to know. Collectors will buy them, others will not unless ofc they're somehow op. This limits the potential market for an already low priced ship, aka potential revenue is either low or even in red.

 

Who cares. It’s WG problem to make money. Players can ask for ships.

 

[fumtu]

1 hour ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

I wouldn't mind a premium Kagero or Yuugumo also.

 

You already have two premium Kageros, one fictional, Harekaze and one real but as Weeb ship, Yukikaze.

 

1 hour ago, DanSilverwing said:

A line split for IJN Heavy and Light cruisers is an intriguing notion. Is there a tree proposal for the ignorant layman to peruse?

 

Only 155mm Mogami could fit above T5, all the rest would be completely made up ships.

 

54 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

As we have those already up to T5 (Tenryu/Katori, Kuma/Yubari, Yahagi), Oyodo might serve as T6. Agano as class lead ship at T5 is also a possibility. Beyond T6, there would only paper ships, and I reject those.

 

Oyodo at T6? I don't think so. Also the rest would not be paper ships but strait up made up ship.

 

50 minutes ago, MementoMori_6030 said:

With Tone having less guns than the T7 Myoko and T8 Takao class, her increased aircraft complement would need to be treated like one or two regular squadrons to compensate for her lack of firepower.

 

Hybrid could hardly work. IMO best suggestion for Tone would be both fighter and spotter plane consumable, and spotter plane consumable could work similarly as Lazo's one.

 

WG is not giving a CV players control over the ship arguing that it is to complicated to control both. Why do you think that they will implement hybrid ships with both ship and plane controls?

[invicta2012]

2 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

That should tell you everything you need to know. Collectors will buy them, others will not unless ofc they're somehow op. This limits the potential market for an already low priced ship, aka potential revenue is either low or even in red.

Well, that should tell WG something about the expectations of the player base which they have built over the last 12 months.

 

The problem with making FOMO and pay-to-catch-up the focus is that the game ends up being horribly congested at Tier X, rendering the other Tiers and game modes irrelevant, and, in the end, destroying the quality of play in the Tiers that WG want - and financially need -  people to focus on. A bit of TLC to other Tiers, restoring the longevity and value of Premiums from Tier V-VIII, would go a long way to sustaining long-term commitment from the players and longer-term, sustained income for WG... but they've gone for the quick boom and bust model. 

[El2aZeR]

1 hour ago, josykay said:

Yeah, but I think Tone and Maya would be fairly ok  Tier 8 CAs, Tone could have a similiar short duration  like Lazo on the spotter plane, or even have, unique layout of being capable of launching the spotter and the fighter on different consumable slots. Meanwhile Maya having a stronger AA suit, compared to her sisters Takao and Atago.

 

Why would you want to trade a turret for a useless gimmick or useless AA?

 

1 hour ago, Amon_ITA said:

Who cares. It’s WG problem to make money. Players can ask for ships.

 

Who cares, it's the players that ask for ships. WG wants to make money.

Sure, you can ask for ships. Likewise I can explain why they're unlikely to be implemented.

[Isoruku_Yamamoto]

Shinano anyone?

[ImperialAdmiral]

48 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

You already have two premium Kageros, one fictional, Harekaze and one real but as Weeb ship, Yukikaze.

 

 

I mean some historical one.

[DrMechano]

2 hours ago, CptBarney said:

It's why most famous ships aren't in the game yet unless they will be tier 6+ where making money is more or less guranteed.

Hope this helps clear somethings about the gaming industry in general.

Hell even some famous ones that ARE tier 8+ aren't in the game. South Dakota for example, we have one of her sister ships in the Massachusetts but not the actual name ship. In fact you've probably got enough variations on the US BB line that you could easily create a second line if they hadn't put the Georgia and the Ohio as premium/resource ships. It's the same with the Royal Navy. If the Hood/Nelson, Vanguard and Thunderer weren't premium/resource ships could probably have a second RN BB line as well (with a 457mm paper ship at tier 9 to fill it out)