[ZFF] SmokyButtons Players 260 posts 4,865 battles Report post #1 Posted December 19, 2019 Is wondering is WG is going the way EA? And it is time stop playing? So the good memories are not ruined? 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #2 Posted December 20, 2019 You can’t ruin a good memory. I‘d say, not yet. WG has still a way to go before it can be considered EAs evil cousin. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pra3y Players 3,021 posts 11,390 battles Report post #3 Posted December 20, 2019 Still kinda early. Besides, what ship are you gonna jump to. Literally almost every other gaming company are now playing the role of an evil greedy corporation so you'll still end up in the same situation. Besides, if we talk about a gaming company this year that has squandered whatever trust their fans had for them, i would go with: 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LADA] Gvozdika [LADA] Players 975 posts 10,423 battles Report post #4 Posted December 20, 2019 The way I see it - one of these things will happen. 1) They double down and run with the concept. More cash grabs, mega grinds and general daftness - the game descends to the WoT levels of imbecilic stupidity. NTC 2.0, premium ammo, more p2w ships - if they're going down the route of shooting themselves in the foot they may as well go all out! 2) They backtrack - either by changing the event conditions or timescales. Some action or gesture to say 'whoops - we messed up'. 3) They stick their fingers in their ears, clamp their eyes shut and pretend it'll all go away after a while. Try and brazen out the worst of it - hoping that new shiny things like RN CAs and submarines will distract the playerbase. This might work, probably not. At the moment they seem to hovering around option 3. Personally I'm hoping that whatever muppet came up the idea is promptly reassigned to tasks more fitting of their intellect - a Crash test dummy possibly. I sincerely hope that the more pragmatic voices at WG will try and remedy things. If not, I'll bugger off to another game. Mechwarrior 5 looks like a suitable candidate.... 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #5 Posted December 20, 2019 No need to be drastic, but I think one can take a page from iChase's book and while not take a whole car trip across Eastern Canada, one can still think for a bit about what's happening. Personally, the CV rework was hot garbage, most lines that were introduced this year (ironically British CVs are the exception, they are just underwhelming CVs) left me frustrated, the original NTC concept was horrid, IFHE rework and submarines are likely going to screw over a great many things. Puerto Rico isn't what's really "breaking it" for me, though it certainly is a reason why this year I spend far less time and money on this game than last year where I bought a goddamn 100+ Euro steel+PEF bundle and some boxes. Pretty much spent nothing this year and I've for a while, since CV rework, been considering what investments in this game still are going to pay off. Because I'll play this game as long as I still feel like it, but I'm not even sure I'll play it still next year this time around. Wouldn't want to buy something just for a few months. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #6 Posted December 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, SmokyButtons said: And it is time stop playing? Probably yes. At this point, i feel the game is so horribly unfun to play on any level, that quitting is becoming a serious option. I mean, i just hope that it gets better - but it will get worse all the time. IFHE rework? Subs? It will not get better, it WILL GET WORSE. Im collecting snowflakes in Coop last couple of days - basicly no fun at all. Game ends after 3 minutes, half of the bots are alive (who wonders, now that we have 9 bots but points tick the same as before). DDs kill everything because bots are dumb. Playing BB it often ends with <20k damage, as you cant get to shoot at any broadside, since DDs torp everything before that. Playing Operations is pretty much dead aswell. They are half bugged at this point, and you basicly gain no rewards for it. Not to mention, half of the time you fail because players are worse than bots. Playing with a group works - if there would be groups left to play with! Most people quit the game, and they got replaces with glue munchers. Randoms... dont get me started. Horrible, and now with PR grind its Horrible times 10. Heard today about an Alaska, that didnt want to radar 2 DDs in smoke because "someone else will kill them, i radar when they are weak so I GET THE KILLS"!!!! think about that one Lowertiers infested with CVs, hightiers infested with premium noobs/newbs and idiots who are grinding for PR, making your life miserable. Ranked doesnt need any explanation, thats a given CBs, well, they were fun when i started to play. But its just less and less fun with the ships WG is throwing out. T8 CBs were crap because Russian BiasBoats and Kiev setups. Now we got the same on TX with Klebers and ofc russian OPships in general. We get more ships, but less variety as the new ships are mandatory to be picked. Even ITA CAs, while being frowned upon by most players, are not balanced. Look at Venezia. That thing can oneshot DDs. And getting 10k volleys in regardless of angle is kinda annoying aswell. Why bother? Not sure... 99% time to move on. 1% is the hope it will get better 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #7 Posted December 20, 2019 I'm not having fun. Usually when this happens the game is ded to me and I go elsewhere. It almost pains me to say it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #8 Posted December 20, 2019 I realized how little I need world of time-gated grindships and all i feel relief. We'll see. Game is taking a direction i dont like, so probably yes, it is time to quit in the new year, certainly when subs get launched. unfortunately, right now I still enjoy sinking noobs. 36 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Heard today about an Alaska, that didnt want to radar 2 DDs in smoke because "someone else will kill them, i radar when they are weak so I GET THE KILLS"!!!! think about that one Lowertiers infested with CVs, hightiers infested with premium noobs/newbs and idiots who are grinding for PR, making your life miserable. Or you go spread the misery for the general playerbase in things like Benham, Hosho or Enterprise. I think i met that Alaska btw, but in a different game. After i torped a FdG and their Kitakaze in front of him, this Alaska showed up and sailed up to an island 5 km in front of me next to a Sinop...without triggering Radar. In fact, he didnt even have hydro on, so I went and yoloed both for a double strike and proceeded to sink another BB before the game ended. Sinop was so disgusted he said in chat he begged the alaska radar, but it didnt (reasons unknown) This PR grind is the best thing that ever happened to my Benham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] MementoMori_6030 [NECRO] Players 6,381 posts Report post #9 Posted December 20, 2019 Vor 4 Stunden, SmokyButtons sagte: Is wondering is WG is going the way EA? I still can remember my first contact with EA. So... paper ships and paper templates? Sounds interesting! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZFF] SmokyButtons Players 260 posts 4,865 battles Report post #10 Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MementoMori_6030 said: I still can remember my first contact with EA. So... paper ships and paper templates? Sounds interesting! Lol my first EA game to 😂😂🤘 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pen_15 Players 36 posts 8,303 battles Report post #11 Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, MementoMori_6030 said: I still can remember my first contact with EA. So... paper ships and paper templates? Sounds interesting! That was a nice game. My first contact was 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CptBarney Players 8,127 posts 245 battles Report post #12 Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, lossi_2018 said: I'm not having fun. Usually when this happens the game is ded to me and I go elsewhere. It almost pains me to say it Yeah, for me doe asssignments made that soo much easier, also just handed one in lol, only my individual project left which i started pretty early and have almost all the modelling for it, will make adjustments then texture it in substance then light it up using arnold! (not a fan of 3ds max too be honest prefer blender). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #13 Posted December 20, 2019 Be the first to jump and maybe others will follow. As it is right now to many are just talking about leaving while nobody actually does. Show WG that u don't joke around. Otherwise these threads are just empty threats like a barking dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #14 Posted December 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Yoshanai said: Be the first to jump and maybe others will follow. As it is right now to many are just talking about leaving while nobody actually does. Show WG that u don't joke around. Otherwise these threads are just empty threats like a barking dog. I know plenty of people who left the game for good, what are you talking about? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #15 Posted December 20, 2019 Gerade eben, Blixies sagte: I know plenty of people who left the game for good, what are you talking about? I still see the same people who always talk about it run around in the forums. Yesterday there were 23k people online too. Doesn't look to bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #16 Posted December 20, 2019 I wont leave the game, I have waited 20 years for a nice naval arcade with surface ships in it so I am not giving up just yet, but I will cut down on the grinds and purchases after this PR is ground out, thats for sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_mlJIAFnOwMVb Players 543 posts Report post #17 Posted December 20, 2019 jump to a game that's single player. a game that doesn't microtransaction your wallet to death. I've been playing Logistics Fever forever now and it's hours and hours of enjoyment for example. No need to drop any more money on a game where the devs refuse to listen. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EUR] lossi_2018 Players 3,122 posts Report post #18 Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Yoshanai said: I still see the same people who always talk about it run around in the forums. Yesterday there were 23k people online too. Doesn't look to bad The majority are new man. I have game after game when my team has multiple players with 20-50-100 games played total 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #19 Posted December 20, 2019 If I were to jump ships, I'd prefer to first have a ship to jump to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HAKUY] Yosha_AtaIante Players 8,032 posts 19,168 battles Report post #20 Posted December 20, 2019 Vor 43 Minuten, lossi_2018 sagte: The majority are new man. I have game after game when my team has multiple players with 20-50-100 games played total This game is totally dying then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #21 Posted December 20, 2019 The only thing that saves WOWS at the moment, for me, is that there is no real alternative, and i'm a Huge WW1 / WW2 naval freak. Having said that, i'm at 10 / 20 games played a week, for the last 2 months. That's absolutely nothing when compared with my past activity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #22 Posted December 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Amon_ITA said: The only thing that saves WOWS at the moment, for me, is that there is no real alternative, and i'm a Huge WW1 / WW2 naval freak. The problem here is that most of the historically interesting ships have been in the game for some time now and are being powercrept by Russian fantasy BB or super-cruiser "designs" so the actual history is being sidelined. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Dog_Dante Players 6,636 posts Report post #23 Posted December 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said: You can’t ruin a good memory. I‘d say, not yet. WG has still a way to go before it can be considered EAs evil cousin. You are way too kind. The PR is not only doubling down, it's the ultimate FU to me. I will sail ships, but my wallet for this company has dried out completely. I am looking for single player games without in-game transactions, gambling and health defying grinds. I'm fed up with marketing focused games that are made for wallets instead of gamers. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #24 Posted December 20, 2019 10 hours ago, SmokyButtons said: Is wondering is WG is going the way EA? And it is time stop playing? So the good memories are not ruined? I don't think so, but stop buying stuff and just play and take anything they want to throw at you for free. That's what I and several others I know plan to do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HALON] Amon_ITA Players 708 posts 13,072 battles Report post #25 Posted December 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Capra76 said: The problem here is that most of the historically interesting ships have been in the game for some time now and are being powercrept by Russian fantasy BB or super-cruiser "designs" so the actual history is being sidelined. Correct. This is my main gripe. But it's not a big problem for Wargaming. They will surely find a lot of Russians happy for their historically accurate powerful blue navy to suck the money from instead. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites