Developer Bulletin 0.9.0

[wot_2016_gunner]

I know what 

 

*edit*

 

I see that you are trying to go back to NTC, you already know how all the CCs and the entire community reacted to this.

 

How am I supposed to get the any legendary upgrades now since I don't own any tier 10 ship and I'm still grinding the tier 9 or less?

 

I'm completely against everything within 0.9.0; the events have now become bland and uninteresting.

 

I'd like to talk with you personally because I'm just so done, enraged and close to crying that I can't even come up with more thoughts.

 

Like I said before, the only thing that keeps me playing is my love for ships; no matter how much of a *edit* this have gets, I'll still play it because I love ships. 

 

Seriously guys @Crysantos @MrConway @Sub_Octavian please, for the love of God, remove this "update", go the hell back to the drawing board and do something FOR YOUR COMMUNITY not against it.

[Crysantos]

5 minutes ago, BismarckGhost said:

first saying,

"The combat missions and challenges to get Unique Upgrades will also change."

then say we will remove it

"Any missions already obtained, will expire on the release date of Update 0.9.2 (March 11-12, 2020)"

i didnt understand. Unique Upgrades missions is removing or changing?

The idea is to change the way how to obtain them - it will transition from combat missions to Research Bureau - with the release of Update 0.9.2 the missions will vanish. At least that's the current plan and in testing.

Greetings, Crysantos

[The_Listener]

41 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

I know what 

 

*edit*

 

I see that you are trying to go back to NTC, you already know how all the CCs and the entire community reacted to this.

 

How am I supposed to get the any legendary upgrades now since I don't own any tier 10 ship and I'm still grinding the tier 9 or less?

 

I'm completely against everything within 0.9.0; the events have now become bland and uninteresting.

 

I'd like to talk with you personally because I'm just so done, enraged and close to crying that I can't even come up with more thoughts.

 

Like I said before, the only thing that keeps me playing is my love for ships; no matter how much of a *edit* this have gets, I'll still play it because I love ships. 

 

Seriously guys @Crysantos @MrConway @Sub_Octavian please, for the love of God, remove this "update", go the hell back to the drawing board and do something FOR YOUR COMMUNITY not against it.

Dude simmer down...

 

IMPORTANT! Because the Update is still being tested, the information in this Bulletin is tentative and reflects the state of game development at the time of its publication. Some changes and new features may be removed entirely or implemented differently by the time the Update goes live. Screenshots, specific values of certain characteristics, and details of in-game mechanics will not necessarily be relevant after the Update is released.

 

Please read ^^^  no need for profanities here

[BismarckGhost]

2 minutes ago, Crysantos said:

The idea is to change the way how to obtain them - it will transition from combat missions to Research Bureau - with the release of Update 0.9.2 the missions will vanish. At least that's the current plan and in testing.

Greetings, Crysantos

thank you for explanation Crysantos.

[Ryujin87]

1 minute ago, Crysantos said:

The idea is to change the way how to obtain them - it will transition from combat missions to Research Bureau - with the release of Update 0.9.2 the missions will vanish. At least that's the current plan and in testing.

Greetings, Crysantos

Crysantos,

 

where did the staff of WG read in the past, that the Research Bureau is interesting for the players?
Why did you come to this crazy idea to put the legendary modules now into this?

Sry, but are you all drunk? 
First the stupid desaster with the Puerto Rico (where still comes no reaction after this big shitstorm) and now you want to install the so hated Research Bureau.

I don't know, but good custumer service looks different

[_HomTanks_]

@Crysantos I have some questions:

 

1. `We’re going to revamp the existing upgrades and add new ones in future. Stay tuned for more news!`  <--- "the sentence"

 

Revamp is defined as `give new and improved form, structure or appearance to`.  If "the sentence" is talking about moving current unique upgrades to RB, it is not a revamp.  Because moving them to RB would be a new but not an improved form, if we take improved in a positive way, of changing it structure. 

 

However, if 'the sentence" is talking about giving new and improved form to THE existing upgrades, it is something else. If so, could you please share what these changes are?

 

2. Will the already obtained unique upgrades be removed from players or only the not obtained ones will be available in RB? 

 

Thanks.  

[SirAmra]

Moving stuff to NTC is practically a remove from the game for me.

So in short, I have less incentive to play wows.

Took a break from the game cause I was burned out from the back to back specials/missions.

Italian cruisers is boring.

Staying the eff away from the PR grind.

And it looks like u take away stuff for me to slowgrind in tier 10s will be removed.

Great job…..I'll play something else.

[The_Listener]

I've lost all faith in this game a long time ago so like you I'm still playing because I've spent time and money on some of the pixel ships. It's a waste if I just quit and leave those behind isn't it?? Never bought anything for a long time now since the carrier fiasco and so right now I'm F2P until I die. This game aint worth your worries...

[MrConway]

2 minutes ago, L8viathan said:

@Crysantos I have some questions:

 

1. `We’re going to revamp the existing upgrades and add new ones in future. Stay tuned for more news!`  <--- "the sentence"

 

Revamp is defined as `give new and improved form, structure or appearance to`.  If "the sentence" is talking about moving current unique upgrades to RB, it is not a revamp.  Because moving them to RB would be a new but not an improved form, if we take improved in a positive way, of changing it structure. 

 

However, if 'the sentence" is talking about giving new and improved form to THE existing upgrades, it is something else. If so, could you please share what these changes are?

 

2. Will the already obtained unique upgrades removed from players or only the not obtained ones will be available in RB? 

 

Thanks.  

 

There may be some changes to some of the existing Legendary Upgrades, some of them are currently very rarely used. We don't have any details yet on changes to individual upgrades and will share that when we get there.

 

This announcement is a heads-up for those of your currently working on specific upgrades or planning to in the near future.

 

We are not planning to remove any upgrades from players that already have them. 

[Hanse77SWE]

10 hours ago, Crysantos said:

you still have 3 months to finish the upgrades if you want to get them through the mission chains.

"Still 3 months"? I've had them since they came out and I haven't gotten a single one of them yet and now you expect me to grind all 18 of them in three months? You are delusional.

All that work and progress for nothing.

[_HomTanks_]

Just now, MrConway said:

ome of them are currently very rarely used. We don't have any details yet on changes to individual upgrades and will share that when w

 

1 minute ago, MrConway said:

 

There may be some changes to some of the existing Legendary Upgrades, some of them are currently very rarely used. We don't have any details yet on changes to individual upgrades and will share that when we get there.

 

This announcement is a heads-up for those of your currently working on specific upgrades or planning to in the near future.

 

We are not planning to remove any upgrades from players that already have them. 

Understood. Thank you for your prompt response.

[Hellmenace]

So people said they didn't want the NTC you had initially planned, so you said you'd change it, and now you've gone back to putting performance upgrades into it.
The amount of hatred you have for your customers is insane, lying to them at every available chance.

[defender128]

random bundles may drop British cruisers

 

Here we go again. Why why, just why? Everyone is bored of this same format with containers over and over again, can't you think of something else that doesn't involve gambling in every freaking update?

[Captain_Newman]

Look, I'm not going to make an "I'm outraged post" here, there's too much of that already and it removes the ability to have a rational conversation. I will, however, say that announcing this move after the - and there's really no other way to call it while staying polite - PR disaster makes me worry about your decision making process, people at WG.

 

Just like someone that's not performing well in the game should go back and reexamine their decision making processes, you need to do that now; I don't think you can argue that lately, you seem to just enrage the community time and again. Assuming that this is not your goal, what exactly were you hoping for when you announced this? Did you really think people want to grind their t10 ship, and then if they want to get it's unique upgrade, reset the line and do it all again? Here's a hint that should be obvious: when people spend a lot of time grinding a line to get to that t10, they will - and this might schock you - want to actually play that t10. This is why the current system works well - want the legendary upgrade? Just play the t10 you grinded. Instead, when someone reaches their t10, instead of being incentivized to play it, you push them into resetting the line and going through all of that again. This is, to paraphrase a streamer we all know.. questionable. I hope you realize this was never going to be welcomed with open arms? Did you even consider your fractured relationship with the player base at this time when you decided to announce this?

 

Time and again you prove you have a PR problem. As has been said before, your heavy handed approach of "our way or the highway, deal with it" doesn't work. I worry that if you continue down this path you're on, you will have reached a point of no return where you chase away just enough players that the game can't recover anymore. Personally, I think that would be a shame, I still like the game, ridiculous PR event, terrible CV rework, this, and the probably disastrous IFHE nerf notwithstanding. Take this as well meant advice, you really, really need to stop and re-examine what you're doing. Get professional, outside help in the form of PR professionals. Make sure they actually understand the game and what they're doing. Listen to them. This is getting you nowhere.

[defender128]

1 hour ago, Crysantos said:

We already talked about this potential move when we announced the reworked Research Bureau about what other content we might offer through this feature - you still have 3 months to finish the upgrades if you want to get them through the mission chains.

Oh come on, it's not about that we can't gRiNd upgrades that we already started. What about T10 ships that we don't have yet and we will not have them before you change grinding for upgrades. Do you realize how unfair this is.

[Uglesett]

33 minutes ago, Crysantos said:

The idea is to change the way how to obtain them - it will transition from combat missions to Research Bureau - with the release of Update 0.9.2 the missions will vanish. At least that's the current plan and in testing.

Greetings, Crysantos

So, how are players who do are never going to reset lines going to get them?

 

I'd still like to know just what is the reasoning behind making the game less and less welcoming for casual and semi-enthusiastic players. You can't sustain this game on only the hardcore enthusiasts and the whales, like any other f2p game you need a stable base of "ordinary" players to keep the servers populated and give the whales someone to play against.

[Crysantos]

52 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

Or, you know, you could just leave the existing missions as they are, and make the research bureau an alternative option.

 

As I said in the thread in the development forum, what is it with the developers seemingly doing everything they can to make the game frustrating and irritating for the more casual players, while simultaneously trying their level best to burn out the enthusiasts? What on earth is this supposed to accomplish? Even the most hardcore players are probably going to get bored of regrinding again and again, while making things inaccessible to the more casual players is just going to make them feel unwelcome and stop playing.

 

I'm not going to reset lines, because I don't have that kind of time to play. All this is accomplishing is making players like me feel less and less welcome, and face it, you need the casual players as well to keep the servers populated. Alienating a large proportion of the player base just to wring a bit more out of the small hardcore fanbase is not going to do the game any good neither in terms of longevity nor financially.

I understand and we'll bring this up internally - for now this is being tested and planned to be implemented, but not set in stone yet.

 

Greetings, Crysantos

[talpadragos]

Conway, Crysantos, lets say you are only PR employees. But man, your bosses are truely *edit* and dont get it.

This russian business model, here it is, it is what is, take it, suck it up...

The same crap, bad new lines, casino containers, directives, give me your money...

A great game slowly destroyed by greedy *edit*.

[Captain_Newman]

15 minutes ago, defender128 said:

Oh come on, it's not about that we can't gRiNd upgrades that we already started. What about T10 ships that we don't have yet and we will not have them before you change grinding for upgrades. Do you realize how unfair this is.

They do. As the game gets older, more and more players get all of their lines unlocked (or at least ones they wanted). Once they have grinded everything they were interested in, some of them either reduce their play time or outright leave the game. This isn't good for WG - inactives and casuals don't spend money in the premium store.

 

So, they introduced legendary upgrades to give these players something to do. Then they thought of the research bureau as a way to incentivize these players to go through their grinds all over again as a way of getting additional interesting reward ships.

 

This move is nothing but offering further incentives for resetting progress and keeping people busy (and spending).

 

However, the way it's done, and in particular when it's being done really shows you how out of touch they are with the community. Frankly, their inability to even predict that this would be pouring gasoline on an already burning fire is concerning to me.

[CptMinia]

1 minute ago, Crysantos said:

I understand and we'll bring this up internally - for now this is being tested and planned to be implemented, but not set in stone yet.

 

Greetings, Crysantos

Hey Crysantos,

                           I agree with @Uglesett here, I don't mind the RB option. But it should be an option! Those that already have the missions and are slowly working towards them should be allowed to keep going. I don't have the time to get it all done considering I have all the silver tier ten ships. Please, do take it up to whoever is responsible because quite frankly, I'm getting a bit worn down with all these latest announcements and changes and I don't think I'm the only one.

 

Kind regards,

                       Minia

[CastorTolagi]

Vor 6 Minuten, Crysantos sagte:

I understand and we'll bring this up internally - for now this is being tested and planned to be implemented, but not set in stone yet.

  

Greetings, Crysantos

THIS I could 100% accept.

Maybe even change the missions so they give points.

Points you can also buy in the RB.

Points you need to get the Upgrade.

 

So you either buy the Upgrade straight away and never play the "stock" ship.

Grind through the mission.

Or do the middle-path where you can do a bit of both.

 

[Uglesett]

1 minute ago, Captain_Newman said:

inactives and casuals don't spend money in the premium store.

[koliber_1984]

You guys remember when long time ago there was a suggestion to implement an additional slot just for LU? If it's going to change that way, it makes them all a necessary evil.

[viceadmiral123]

Regarding Unique Upgrades missions -

 

those missions were released with the assurance that they will never expire. In a way they are a reason for players to keep playing the t10 ships after obtaining them, or just having a further progress after reaching the end of the researchable line.

 

If WG still decides to end those missions, I would suggest one of two approaches:

 

1. Extend mission completion date to at least the end of 2020, possibly parallel to the new distribution system.

2. If mission is completely removed, compensate the player based on the mission progress. Proportional compensation is warranted, with a small bonus in zero progress missions for just having researched and purchased the ship.

[wot_2016_gunner]

47 minuti fa, Crysantos ha scritto:

The idea is to change the way how to obtain them

Basically making them impossible to get from F2P players. 

 

Besides @The_Listener I actually appreciate your warning; however, I still have some PTSD from the Puerto Rico disaster, and I know that is just PTS (tho I can I even trust the PTS anymore) so things are subjected to change, but just reading the idea makes me mad. 

 

I can't wait for CCs to react to this.