New wave of bots incoming???

[Afghanicus]

I feel like I've found a few already while playing a some co-op battles earlier today.

 

iChase also mentioned a possible influx of bots, thanks to WG's insane grind for the Puerto Rico.

 

Maybe it's a bit early for this thread but do you expect to see another wave of bots like we had when they was a silly competition for recruiters with real cash prizes?

 

Are we ready for another episode of that BS?

[DFens_666]

Ofc i expect people running bots. Probably a bit early, but once we get to those base XP missions - sure as hell...

[Deckeru_Maiku]

17 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

Ofc i expect people running bots. Probably a bit early, but once we get to those base XP missions - sure as hell...

Sooo... you expect the quality of battles going up then?

[Lootboxer]

24 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Sooo... you expect the quality of battles going up then?

Judging by recent games it cant be worse with bots, had a game in coop where one of our Seattle bots was top XP or a games where the worst enemy bot (CV)  still had more xp then last 2 players in my all human winning team!

[black_falcon120]

Would bots get enough bXP per game to make the grind doable? 

[KillStealBoss]

Yup especially between 20th of December and 2nd of January will be a lot of them...

[Afghanicus]

22 minutes ago, black_falcon120 said:

Would bots get enough bXP per game to make the grind doable? 

Since they can run 24/7... I guess so.

 

Depend on how well the bots is 'designed' as well but I guess it's possible. 

 

Definitely (much) easier than grinding the directives by yourself. Especially those starting from the 3rd or 4th one...

[KillStealBoss]

9 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

Since they can run 24/7... I guess so.

 

Depend on how well the bots is 'designed' as well but I guess it's possible. 

 

Definitely (much) easier than grinding the directives by yourself. Especially those starting from the 3rd or 4th one...

On co-op will be even easier (99% win with average 400 exp and 5min duration - unlike in randoms with about 1k exp per 12-15 min (cause you lose it more often)+ 24/7.... 

[Afghanicus]

3 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

On co-op will be even easier (99% win with average 400 exp and 5min duration - unlike in randoms with about 1k exp per 12-15 min (cause you lose it more often)+ 24/7.... 

It's also easier to stay under the radar on co-op... In Random battles people are more vigilant, they check other players' stats, report them etc.

 

In co-op it's usually YOLO, click click click, play again. Most of the times you don't even know who your team mates are.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

26 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

Most of the times you don't even know care who or what your team mates are.

Fixed that for you...

[lossi_2018]

I had 1-2 bots in all my games today

[aquiles7389]

Probably due to the snowflakes event...They try to rush ahead, trying to kill and be killed as soon as possible, then repeat with the next ship. It's co-op after all.

 

I've done a bit of that tbh, just to get the snowflakes faster.

[Kikan_Nagato]

4 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

Ofc i expect people running bots. Probably a bit early, but once we get to those base XP missions - sure as hell...

If a bot gets around 200 base exp per game then even if it ran for 30 games that would still be less base exp than a human getting 2k each game which isn't unreasonable. Therefore a human can get 10times more base exp than a bot. It would be absolutely insane for anyone to consider running such a bot not only because of the stats of that person tanking but because of the risk of getting caught.

 

So it's pretty unrealistic for anyone to consider using bots for the PR grind.

[DasTongle]

9 minutes ago, Imuya_Umi said:

 

So it's pretty unrealistic for anyone to consider using bots for the PR grind.

AHHAHAAH. Even for moving and slight damage a bot gets arround 500 xp thats  in the worse case 2000k base XP per Hour on every Grind. Allready a net plus so why wouldn't one use Bots again?

[Kikan_Nagato]

Just now, The_Reichtangle said:

AHHAHAAH. Even for moving and slight damage a bot gets arround 500 xp thats  in the worse case 2000k base XP per Hour on every Grind. Allready a net plus so why wouldn't one use Bots again?

You are wrong.

[DasTongle]

3 minutes ago, Imuya_Umi said:

You are wrong.

Just BECAUSE i presume?

Seriously, movement gives points, that combined with maybe a few hits etc pushes them up to 400-500 in Random Games. And there is time where a human has to rest. We call that sleep.

Bot Users would net gain 2000k per Hour Assuming a Battle Lenght of 15 min on Average.

Just because you can not fathom that. Doesn't mean others are wrong.

[Kikan_Nagato]

28 minutes ago, The_Reichtangle said:

Just BECAUSE i presume?

Seriously, movement gives points, that combined with maybe a few hits etc pushes them up to 400-500 in Random Games. And there is time where a human has to rest. We call that sleep.

Bot Users would net gain 2000k per Hour Assuming a Battle Lenght of 15 min on Average.

Just because you can not fathom that. Doesn't mean others are wrong.

You are wrong.

 

I have more pictures.

[kfa]

5 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

Yup especially between 20th of December and 2nd of January will be a lot of them...

thank god, maybe the  quality of randoms will rise, i really wish sometimes my teammates were actually bots

[Kikan_Nagato]

Just now, kfa said:

thank god, maybe the  quality of randoms will rise, i really wish sometimes my teammates were actually bots

If there would be a system that automatically takes control away of ships afk for longer than 5 minutes...

 

[DasTongle]

54 minutes ago, Imuya_Umi said:

You are wrong.

 

I have more pictures.

~~snip~~

*laughs* Yes i can see now they make way less XP , what still translate to they make XP while their owner is not steering them.

Motive is making XP... 

So well i do not have to understand your logic tree i just accept that you wish to be pedantic and use U R WRONG as justification 

that X amount more xp is much worse then no xp in a pepetual grind... :)

[Kikan_Nagato]

9 minutes ago, The_Reichtangle said:

*laughs* Yes i can see now they make way less XP , what still translate to they make XP while their owner is not steering them.

Motive is making XP... 

So well i do not have to understand your logic tree i just accept that you wish to be pedantic and use U R WRONG as justification 

that X amount more xp is much worse then no xp in a pepetual grind... :)

You are wrong and blowing this out of proportion. A bot can never achieve what even a failing human is capable off and I'm not talking about WOWS AI bots but of course some random script that can only use the most basic movement commands.

Such a bot will die without any contribution and will earn even less than the players that ended up below 500 already.

Noone would ruin their stats over such an inefficient method either. On top of that the credit loss will be tremendous.

A human average skill player getting 1,2kper win and 700 per loss is much more efficient and risking much less stat tanking and economy loss.

 

But of course you are leaving all these thoughts about the matter out. And you will likely never admit either that I'm right so I guess my talk with you ends with this post.

 

 

[TR_KingTiger11o]

Dont worry even bots cant completes this directives...

[22cm]

On the other hand, did I mention a friend of mine may need a good bot program, below 30 euros if possible? 

[DasTongle]

1 hour ago, Imuya_Umi said:

You are wrong and blowing this out of proportion. A bot can never achieve what even a failing human is capable off and I'm not talking about WOWS AI bots but of course some random script that can only use the most basic movement commands.

Such a bot will die without any contribution and will earn even less than the players that ended up below 500 already.

Noone would ruin their stats over such an inefficient method either. On top of that the credit loss will be tremendous.

A human average skill player getting 1,2kper win and 700 per loss is much more efficient and risking much less stat tanking and economy loss.

 

But of course you are leaving all these thoughts about the matter out. And you will likely never admit either that I'm right so I guess my talk with you ends with this post.

 

 

Edit* (language please)

Cause that is all it comes down to Maths.... even just a small dribble of 1xx XP is more than ZERO when you don't play the game.

Thats all justification a botter needs. Even if you don't wanna accept it, that is what it will come down to if it is possible. And yes that discussion is over no matter how much you don't wanna accept simple numbers ;)

[Gundagan]

You have also to take the average residence time in a match into consideration.  What is your residence time to earn 2000 XP? What residence time is needed for 400 xp? If the human has 12min average residence time and the bot 3 min then the yield is 2000 vs 1600. The longer the human survives the smaller is the gap.