The Puerto Rico Dumpster Fire...

[Sunleader]

I see alot of stuff cropping up and in my Self Entitled Importance as Yet another Guy who cant Resist the Urge to dump his Mind onto the Forums. I am going to Clarify some things here.

 

Most of it however is actually Aimed at the Community. WG has gone into *Lala We cant hear You* Mode Anyways.

 

 

1.

No. This Event is NOT Aimed at Whales.

Whales dont care about this kind of thing.

Whales cant even be bothered to Wait the 4 Weeks and let the Premium Boosters produce Points to make the Finish Option Cheaper.

They could Remove Directives 4 to 7 and all Whales will still just Instantly Buy it.

 

This Event is also not Aimed at Hardcore Players. WG did not Spend Months of Effort to Animate a Detailed Shipbuilding Process and making a New Ship advertising it like crazy and even telling CCs to Promote it. Just to then only have it as a Price for 0.001% of the Community that has no Life and for 0.1% which is ready to throw 250 Bucks at them to buy it instantly.

 

This Event is Targeting YOU as well as Me.

This Event is a Sunk Cost Fallacy Trap.

WG wants you to Try Grinding it. And then after you Hundred Hours into it but Fail. They want you to Buy it for Gold anyways.

Human Psychology is prone to this. You dont want these Hundreds of Hours of Grinding to be for Nothing right. So you will Buy the Ship.

 

 

2.

WG did not Apologize because of the Crabstorm. WG also did not Apologize because they are sorry they were caught.

WG only Posted that Apology to have an Excuse for shoving the *this event is doable* spreadsheets into our Faces.

Alot of People Calculated the Requirements. And due to lack of Information or due to internal mechanics. They made clear. This is Impissible. Dont even bother Trying.

But this is a Thorn on WGs Side.

They want you to Try.

If you dont try their Plan doesnt work.

And thats all this Apology is for. They want People to Try it.

They want you to think you got a Chance. So they can get your Money from the Sunk Cost Fallacy Later.

 

 

3.

Please!! Do not TK Puerto Rico Players or break the Rules of the Game or such Bullcrab.

Its not Helping. Its just giving WG an Excuse to throw you under the Bus and take the Moral High Ground.

 

 

4.

If you want to Show WG that what they did is Crab.

Go Enjoy your Holidays. Dont bother with WG at all.

 

Complain in the Forums and keep Complaining. Make sure WG is haunted by Complaints about this and wont get a rest on it till they change the Event.

 

But most of all. Dont bother with anything beyond Directive 3.

Dont bother with the Dockyard or the PR.

 

Make sure that WG Realizes that if they pull this kind of bullcrab they will have wasted hundreds of hours on Developing something that then goes to Waste thanks to their Bullcrab.

 

 

 

Just my 2 Cents.

Greetz Sun.

 

 

 

[aboomination]

Did you need to create another PR topic, tho?

[Sunleader]

2 minutes ago, aboomination said:

Did you need to create another PR topic, tho?

 Obviously Yes ^^

[Karasu_Browarszky]

7 minutes ago, aboomination said:

Did you need to create another PR topic, tho?

 

Not much else anyone can do. We can either create several topics or run the existing threads to 100+ pages. Either you are pi$$ed at them or you aren't. Unless you like 'shikata ga nai' and accept their apology at face value. Mind you though, they just insulted the community further today so..

[lovemasin]

yes the more the batter

 

[Sunleader]

3 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Not much else anyone can do. We can either create several topics or run the existing threads to 100+ pages. Either you are pi$$ed at them or you aren't. Unless you like 'shikata ga nai' and accept their apology at face value. Mind you though, they just insulted the community further today so..

 

3 minutes ago, lovemasin said:

yes the more the batter

 

 

The Serious Reason I made a New Topic is actually that this Post is much more Aimed at the Community and not so much at WG.

 

The other Topics currently available all Aim at WG. Not at the Community.

 

 

WG has gone into the Bunker for Now.

They wont pay much Attention to the Rage for a few Days. Hoping it it will calm down.

They wont take further Action unless the Storm keeps up at full Power without Dying down.

 

So I found it more Importand to correct some misunderstandings the Community seems to have regarding WGs Intentions.

 

[Major_Damage225]

20 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

3.

Please!! Do not TK Puerto Rico Players or break the Rules of the Game or such Bullcrab.

Soo mutch this 

Just because one decided to buy it dose not make them a target for any abuse, ever. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

I'm thinking... I may try to grind for the Gorizia, even completing the first three directives on time will be enough of WG fun for me as far as the event goes. I will also aim to collect as many snowflakes as I can... and then...

 

I will actually stick to playing tiers I-IV. I never get to do that anyway so now's the perfect chance.

[aboomination]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

I'm thinking... I may try to grind for the Gorizia, even completing the first three directives on time will be enough of WG fun for me as far as the event goes. I will also aim to collect as many snowflakes as I can.

And that's how it's intended for most players.

[Muppeteer]

Have no intention of doing the grind but have managed to farm 5k free xp and 100 signals so far from just setting it in motion and using tokens from things I was doing anyway.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, aboomination said:

And that's how it's intended for most players.

 

Which is when, after finishing Stage III... oh man, wouldn't it be a shame to let all that building go to waste... luckily they are presented with an opportunity to pay WG 35k doubloons to save it! WG, I luv you!

[aboomination]

If that button is what triggers you, it's your own fault. The only people who should really be triggered are those who bought premium boosters and still won't get what they aimed for.

Cause WG didn't provide proper information about what grind can be expected with 1,2 or 3 premium boosters involved.

Edit: Oh - and grinding for a discount would still be better. Why pay first (cause thesooner a booster is activated the better) and grind later? Has to be the other way around to reduce pressure. 

And that is what feels like a scam here.

[Bellegar]

55 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

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I agree with you.

But why are you so special that you need your own topic? Don't we have enough topics on this clusterf*ck already?

 

Also, as a sidenote, what's wrong with all your enters?!  Did they reproduce in a lab or something?

 

34 minutes ago, Major_Damage225 said:

Soo mutch this 

Just because one decided to buy it dose not make them a target for any abuse, ever. 

Not for teamkilling of course. But I will go out of my way to bully every enemy Puerto Rico as much as I can. Vulnerable DD at 3 km? Nope, I'll just shoot that Puerto Rico at 18 km.

The filth that encourages these 'events' and practices by throwing money at this, must be cleansed from this earth!

[Karasu_Browarszky]

9 minutes ago, aboomination said:

If that button is what triggers you, it's your own fault. The only people who should really be triggered are those who bought premium boosters and still won't get what they aimed for.

Cause WG didn't provide proper information about what grind can be expected with 1,2 or 3 premium boosters involved.

Edit: Oh - and grinding for a discount would still be better. Why pay first (cause thesooner a booster is activated the better) and grind later? Has to be the other way around to reduce pressure. 

And that is what feels like a scam here.

 

Yes.

[Sunleader]

30 minutes ago, aboomination said:

And that's how it's intended for most players.

 

No.

As Explained above.

This was never the Intention for this Event.

Unless of course you really think that WG Invested alot of Time into a Feature 99% of the Community will Ignore.

Which is Ridiculous.

They want you to try Building PR. Invest Time. And then fall for the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

 

14 minutes ago, aboomination said:

If that button is what triggers you, it's your own fault. The only people who should really be triggered are those who bought premium boosters and still won't get what they aimed for.

Cause WG didn't provide proper information about what grind can be expected with 1,2 or 3 premium boosters involved.

Edit: Oh - and grinding for a discount would still be better. Why pay first (cause thesooner a booster is activated the better) and grind later? Has to be the other way around to reduce pressure. 

And that is what feels like a scam here.

 

No.

The Scam is the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

 

Human Psychology works in this way.

The more Effort you Invest the more you feel pressured to finish the Job.

 

Because the more time you Invested. The less you want this time to go to waste.

After all. If you played the Directives for the whole Month and then the Ship isnt done.

You will think this.

*I spend so much effort on this. If I dont Finish it all of that is gonna be wasted*

 

Of course thats wrong. It makes more sense to Cut losses in this case.

But Humans. Especially Vulnearble Humans like Teenagers etc dont realize this.

 

This is why this Practice is actually Illegal in alot of Countries and Generally only used in Casinos in Countries were Gambling isnt Regulated.

 

The thing with this being Aimed at Hardcore Players is just a Lie to Conceal their Intentions from the Gullible Foljs they hope will Grind for PR and then Fall for the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

 

6 minutes ago, Bellegar said:

I agree with you.

But why are you so special that you need your own topic? Don't we have enough topics on this clusterf*ck already?

 

Also, as a sidenote, what's wrong with all your enters?!  Did they reproduce in a lab or something?

 

Not for teamkilling of course. But I will go out of my way to bully every enemy Puerto Rico as much as I can. Vulnerable DD at 3 km? Nope, I'll just shoot that Puerto Rico at 18 km.

The filth that encourages these 'events' and practices by throwing money at this, must be cleansed from this earth!

 

1.

No. We actually need far more Topics and Far more Outrage. So WG cannot Ignore it anymore.

2.

I am not Native English. I learned English in an MMO from a Brazillian Clan which was Allied with us.

That Game had a Flat Chat Window and is real old by now.

You could only Type 1 Line. It did not automaticly split the text to the next line.

I still have that Habit of pressing Enter after an Statement :)

Pressing it twice when I want to seperate different Statements.

 

Also. I hate Blocktext. I find it hard to read and unpleasant.

[aboomination]

11 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

No.

As Explained above.

This was never the Intention for this Event.

Unless of course you really think that WG Invested alot of Time into a Feature 99% of the Community will Ignore.

 

If you look closely, there's more to gain from the dockyard than the PR...not saying they did it well, but I think it was intended like I said above.

There'S so many layers to this disaster, on both sides. WG is to blame, tho.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

No.

The Scam is the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

Which is what I said about those who bought premium boosters and won't reach their goal. Those will be inclined to spend even more.

THose who didn't pay any amount of money? Whatever, really. They wanted to grind her for free and failed. If they then pay an absurd amount of money - their fault.

Not saying I like to see companies pray on weak-minded. But that's really the line the whole gaming industry is surfing on.

WG needed to be more transparent about the premium booster effects and the expected grind, the end.

[MacFergus]

Encouraging people to grind like this is a lawsuit waiting to happen I don't think WG know what a tin of worms from a health point of view their opening , We have seen people drop dead from excessive gaming and WG are actively encouraging players to do this by making the grind so bad.

 

At the end of the day gaming companies have a responsibility to the their player base to act in a sane and rational fashion and not to encourage such stupidity of farming for 12 hours a day , Its not healthy. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

13 minutes ago, aboomination said:

If you look closely, there's more to gain from the dockyard than the PR...not saying they did it well, but I think it was intended like I said above.

There'S so many layers to this disaster, on both sides. WG is to blame, tho.

 

 

Which is what I said about those who bought premium boosters and won't reach their goal. Those will be inclined to spend even more.

THose who didn't pay any amount of money? Whatever, really. They wanted to grind her for free and failed. If they then pay an absurd amount of money - their fault.

Not saying I like to see companies pray on weak-minded. But that's really the line the whole gaming industry is surfing on.

WG needed to be more transparent about the premium booster effects and the expected grind, the end.

 

I still think the fairest solution would have been to remove the time limit. While the full 59k doubloon price would still be laughably outrageous, inflated to about twice what would even then be a very expensive ship, I think most of the community would have then been willing to accept the fact a tier X grind is just tougher than anything else. It is the time limit that turns this into a scam, IMO.

[Callidous]

Vor 1 Stunde, Sunleader sagte:

This Event is Targeting YOU as well as Me.

This Event is a Sunk Cost Fallacy Trap.

WG wants you to Try Grinding it. And then after you Hundred Hours into it but Fail. They want you to Buy it for Gold anyways.

This is exactly it. It's the only way this makes sense. And it tells us that they're still lying when they pretend that it was aimed at hardcore players from the start.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

4 minutes ago, Callidous said:

This is exactly it. It's the only way this makes sense. And it tells us that they're still lying when they pretend that it was aimed at hardcore players from the start.

 

So who is the most HC of the HC around? What do they think? How easily can they do this without using the premium boosters or with them?

[Deckeru_Maiku]

2 minutes ago, Callidous said:

when they pretend that it was aimed at hardcore players from the start.

It's aimed at money. And of course it's their right to aim at their customers' money.

Just... they won't get mine... not with an US ship as the "main prize". Not for such an enormous amount of money...

I mean... I didn't pay more than about € 100.- since entering the beta of this game, and I don't plan to change that for such an economical move of WG.

Others will... and I can't say I give a flying eff about it. Just keeps me playing way more T5 than high tier ships ^^

 

And I won't play a lot more than usual, but getting the Godzilla and some rewards from the shipyard will be a nice extra to get...

[Lieut_Gruber]

1 hour ago, Bellegar said:

Also, as a sidenote, what's wrong with all your enters?!  Did they reproduce in a lab or something? 

Lets not mention the capitals? 

[MyopicHedgehog]

1 hour ago, MacFergus said:

Encouraging people to grind like this is a lawsuit waiting to happen I don't think WG know what a tin of worms from a health point of view their opening , We have seen people drop dead from excessive gaming and WG are actively encouraging players to do this by making the grind so bad.

 

At the end of the day gaming companies have a responsibility to the their player base to act in a sane and rational fashion and not to encourage such stupidity of farming for 12 hours a day , Its not healthy. 

 

I thought it was 36 hours per day to get it free?!

[Sunleader]

4 hours ago, MyopicHedgehog said:

 

I thought it was 36 hours per day to get it free?!

 

If your an Average Player its actually more like Playing 3 Days Straight without Sleeping or doing anything else.

I think the Theory is that a Super Unicum using only the Biggest Camouflage and Flags might be able to do it by Playing 12-15 Hours a Day.

[Fionia_DK]

7 hours ago, Sunleader said:

4.

If you want to Show WG that what they did is Crab.

Go Enjoy your Holidays. Dont bother with WG at all.

 

 

Just my 2 Cents.

Greetz Sun.

 

 

 

Thats the best answer to WG and I will do that.