Puerto Rico event is a reward for people with health issues

[Afghanicus]

Another PR disaster, this time from a General Manager over the Russian forum? 

 

 

 

Original comment on the RU forum...

 

https://forum.worldofwarships.ru/topic/135458-извинения-за-неправильную-подачу-деталей-о-постройке-корабля-puerto-rico/?page=58&tab=comments#comment-5891424

 

Isn't this another spit in the face of the whole playerbase? Event for people with health issues? REALLY?

 

 

And especially ending it with:

 

"So, the degree of whining won't affect this marathon (grind). For sure."

 

Translating into: "We don't give a crap about your sentiments or opinions. Pay up or fuk off."

 

I do feel a bit sorry for the CMs who have to face all this rage because of people like the GM we're talking about here. Not allowed to insult here but man... that's some serious $hit right there.

[Afghanicus]

Just saw an existing thread already..

 

 

Mods can close/delete this thread but that one quoted should be renamed.

 

Thanks.

[Ocsimano18]

Another PR disaster? Rather another lie. Stop taking seriously whatever excuses they made up.

[JapLance]

Everytime someone from WG types something it's like throwing more fuel to the fire. These Russians are so... undiplomatic.

[LemonadeWarriorITA]

I will feel sorry about myself when I sail around in my PR. 

[Captain_Newman]

This whole event is very convenient.

 

"Oh you need t10's to get some later directives, and you don't have any? No problem, you need to grind so hard you'll have many lines at t10 by the time you're done."

Similarly:

 

"Oh this is an event for people with health issues, but you're healthy? Worry not, because if you try to grind the PR for free you'll have plenty of health issues, ranging from mental to physical..."

[SamuraiShakaViking]

1 hour ago, JapLance said:

Everytime someone from WG types something it's like throwing more fuel to the fire. These Russians are so... undiplomatic.

 

actually the Russian community r as angry if not more

[SamuraiShakaViking]

I'm disabled.

 

Many military veterans are too.

 

The ceo is obliged to explain how this debacle is supposed to be for benefit of healthy or non healthy customers.

 

fyi

The cv re-rework alienated  , actually disqualified some from being able to participate , example because before you could manage the RTS cv with one hand

[aboomination]

2 hours ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Another PR disaster? Rather another lie. Stop taking seriously whatever excuses they made up.

It's not a lie, he was just speculating about the nature of the biggest no-lifers in this game. And should've kept his mouth shut.

[Ocsimano18]

29 minutes ago, aboomination said:

It's not a lie, he was just speculating about the nature of the biggest no-lifers in this game. And should've kept his mouth shut.

Ok, this is a lie:

"We encourage them by adding more purpose for these people and by rewarding them with Tier 10 being built. Consider it our obligation to them"

 

The PR event is a scam by design. Portraying it as something for the 0.1% of the playerbase is a lie. Why would WG invest so much development time and effort for them?

[aboomination]

16 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Ok, this is a lie:

"We encourage them by adding more purpose for these people and by rewarding them with Tier 10 being built. Consider it our obligation to them"

 

The PR event is a scam by design. Portraying it as something for the 0.1% of the playerbase is a lie. Why would WG invest so much development time and effort for them?

No, the event was designed for everyone - the "free" PR is for the 0.1%. That's what he said.

The booster mechanic is deeply flawed and they didn't give us the required information in time to make an informed decision. This can be seen as scam and I'm on the edge here.

But there are certainly elements that show that the event was intended to provide for everyone (i can get PR and all the other loot for 47€, you will maybe have to pay 80).

But they overdid the steepness of both the base price and the grind. They should've put PR in the shop for 100-120€ and charged another 5000-10000 doubloons after you purchased all boosters (Stil ridiculous but in line with the ususal pricing).

WG has to sort this out, the CCs have to sort this out and we have to do that, too. But death threats and TK of PR players are uncalled for. That's beyond venting or criticizing.

Ah. btw - the real shitstorm will come when players who don't read reddit/the forums notice that their premium boosters will not give them the PR cause they(!) can't do the grind.

This is a catastrophe, but the guy you quoted didn't lie.

[Shaka_D]

WG have their collective heads so far up their own behinds it's not funny anymore. Can you believe this stuff? Of course they'll never admit it....where in the world is the majority ever right?...it's always the absolute minority who are the ones living in lala land thinking the world revolves around them. WG have basically helped bury what little respect many players had of them....when your customer is your means of income, how does insulting those same customers help? Perhaps they should stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for employees and actually hire a few with better scruples....sherbert, anyone off the street will do.

 

We need our cc's to sort this bs out...this is ridiculous...time they contribute a little backbone on behalf of the community.....because WG won;t listen to us, we're apparently all too stupid.

[aboomination]

1 minute ago, Shaka_D said:

where in the world is the majority ever right?

The majority of this player base is effin stupid and you know that 

[Ocsimano18]

14 minutes ago, aboomination said:

No, the event was designed for everyone - the "free" PR is for the 0.1%. That's what he said.

The booster mechanic is deeply flawed and they didn't give us the required information in time to make an informed decision. This can be seen as scam and I'm on the edge here.

But there are certainly elements that show that the event was intended to provide for everyone (i can get PR and all the other loot for 47€, you will maybe have to pay 80).

But they overdid the steepness of both the base price and the grind (last two directives).

WG has to sort this out, the CCs have to sort this out and we have to do that, too. But death threats and TK of PR players are uncalled for. That's beyond venting or criticizing.

Ah. btw - the real shitstorm will come when players who don't read reddit/the forums notice that their premium boosters will not give them the PR cause they(!) can't do the grind.

This is a catastrophe, but the guy you quoted didn't lie.

Sure, and the VW diesel manipulation software was a generous act to protect the environment in that 0.1% of the usage when it was active.

[aboomination]

1 minute ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Sure, and the VW diesel manipulation software was a generous act to protect the environment in that 0.1% of the usage when it was active.

Which part of my post did you exactly refer to?

[valrond]

TBH, I have a health issue, and I've been 18 months not working (still getting paid, it is a work injury after all), and that helped me playinng WOWS and other grindy games.

[NothingButTheRain]

49 minutes ago, Ocsimano18 said:

Ok, this is a lie:

"We encourage them by adding more purpose for these people and by rewarding them with Tier 10 being built. Consider it our obligation to them"

 

The PR event is a scam by design. Portraying it as something for the 0.1% of the playerbase is a lie. Why would WG invest so much development time and effort for them?

Indeed.

WG could just as well have sold it in the shop and used the shiny new port building graphics for stuff that more people can enjoy and not just the 'top' 1% whales who (for the most part) won't really care about the graphics and time and attention to detail spend in the dockyard anyway. All they want is PR NOW NOW NOW! They click everything away, insert doubloons here and once the PR is in their port they will have forgotten about the dockyard.

For people who will grind the dockyard will have a more negative connotation. So chances are there that this dockyard feature will get canned in the future, even though it looked very promising when on PTS.

Lets see what will get salvaged from this.

[aboomination]

Should've sold her for 120€ and have us grind for a discount - i.e. 4/7 directives (reasonable grind) would give you a 57% discount aka 52€ (which is very good when it comes to WG) - reasonable, transparent and low shitstorm probability.

@Crysantos So, have us watch the building process in 7 steps and always have that "complete now" button available, charging the discounted price. Easy enough? Idk how and why you f'd this up so hard.

[CptBarney]

2 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Indeed.

WG could just as well have sold it in the shop and used the shiny new port building graphics for stuff that more people can enjoy and not just the 'top' 1% whales who (for the most part) won't really care about the graphics and time and attention to detail spend in the dockyard anyway. All they want is PR NOW NOW NOW! They click everything away, insert doubloons here and once the PR is in their port they will have forgotten about the dockyard.

For people who will grind the dockyard will have a more negative connotation. So chances are there that this dockyard feature will get canned in the future, even though it looked very promising when on PTS.

Lets see what will get salvaged from this.

You know what? If weegee wanted moneh so badly all they had to do was sell really cool looking skins for existing ships ranging from historical refits etc, to fantasy but also having some realisric ones too. Sell them between 10-30’s per skin less for the little uns and you have a skin market that offers comestics with no advantages.

 

and even a camo market selling them for a few quid with custom designs submitted by players.

soo many things they could of done.

 

its like disney and anthem atm.

[NothingButTheRain]

4 hours ago, CptBarney said:

You know what? If weegee wanted moneh so badly all they had to do was sell really cool looking skins for existing ships ranging from historical refits etc, to fantasy but also having some realisric ones too. Sell them between 10-30’s per skin less for the little uns and you have a skin market that offers comestics with no advantages.

 

and even a camo market selling them for a few quid with custom designs submitted by players.

soo many things they could of done.

 

its like disney and anthem atm.

They already are selling alternate skins. perhaps not a lot of historical ones but we do get a historical one for free. I even completed a mission chain for a free Leander historical camo today by chance.

And there's tons of alternate skins out there and WG even made a lot of the older ones accessable again this patch for doubloons. Granted, many of these are not historical but in the end money is money regardless of what skin was sold for it 

[jss78]

Translating can be a  tricky business, sometimes a word here or there can shift the meaning.

 

Possibly he actually said:

 

Reward [to WG] *from people with *mental health issues.

 

That'd actually be an honest and truthful statement.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

15 minutes ago, jss78 said:

Translating can be a  tricky business, sometimes a word here or there can shift the meaning.

 

Possibly he actually said:

 

Reward [to WG] *from people with *mental health issues.

 

That'd actually be an honest and truthful statement.

 

Yes, true. Especially with Russian where words seem to have shifting meanings.. go figure. Perhaps we misunderstood the poor fellow, perhaps he was saying something like:

 

People play a lot, the game is giving them health issues and making them unemployed. We comfort them by giving them meaningless insane grinds to do, and reward them with the instant satisfaction of ransoming themselves out by throwing their hard earned money at us in heaps and bounds.

 

That reads so much better.. or what you gusy think?

[CptBarney]

7 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said:

They already are selling alternate skins. perhaps not a lot of historical ones but we do get a historical one for free. I even completed a mission chain for a free Leander historical camo today by chance.

And there's tons of alternate skins out there and WG even made a lot of the older ones accessable again this patch for doubloons. Granted, many of these are not historical but in the end money is money regardless of what skin was sold for it 

Nah im talking about the stuff you see in world of tanks, those types of skins. Plus they could still have a skin market for every ship in the game and sell them for a good amount of money and peeps could have something that makes their ship look unique, but with no added in game bonuses.

 

And the older ones can be put up with their equivalent price in doubloons but priced with the equivalent money, they could even do shell tracer colours or whatever. 

 

That would of been far better than to do too be honest or something that should of been implemented ages ago.

oh well.

[22cm]

Now, I can testify for that.

It is really true. 

My grandmother uses WoWS as a therapy, especially when her health problems are agravated by the bad weather, and she is feeling much better. 

She has also become a WoWS unicum player because of that. 

[NothingButTheRain]

15 hours ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Yes, true. Especially with Russian where words seem to have shifting meanings.. go figure. Perhaps we misunderstood the poor fellow, perhaps he was saying something like:

 

People play a lot, the game is giving them health issues and making them unemployed. We comfort them by giving them meaningless insane grinds to do, and reward them with the instant satisfaction of ransoming themselves out by throwing their hard earned money at us in heaps and bounds.

 

That reads so much better.. or what you gusy think?

Perhaps they were just in a playful mood and wanted to wrap up the celebrations?