New Year Gifts and Rewards: Your One-Stop Guide

[Jethro_Grey]

The Cynical part in me expects 'special' Boosters towards the end of the Event, where WG 'suddenly realizes and apologizes' for a 'tad bit too hard and grindy' Event. But thankfully, you'll be able, thx to Wargamblings infinite generosity to buy these 'Special boosters' in the premium store to get your Puerto Rico after all. Maybe i'm just too cynical? 

[MrFingers]

3 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

thx to Wargamblings infinite generosity to buy these 'Special boosters' in the premium store to get your Puerto Rico after all

Don't worry, they'll hide it in a container, with a chance to get a booster.

[Takru]

  

Puerto Rico Marathon

	Stage 1	Stage 2	Stage 3	Stage 4	Stage 5	Stage 6	Stage 7
damage (all)		5.600.000		9.300.000
damage (fire)	165.000
damage(USA, UK, ITA BB)					4.500.000
damage (potential)	2.300.000	36.000.000
damage (potential) (IJN ITA PA CA)					47.000.000
ribbon (fire)	100
ribbon (fire/cit/flood/torp hit)		1.500
ribbon (cit/torp hit)			130
ribbon (cap/def/assist)	40
ribbon (2ndary)			4.500			7.200
ribbon (plane kill)		300
ribbon (main battery hit) (IJN, FR BB)					1.700
ribbon (fire/flood) (IJN PA DD)					200
ribbon (citadel) (USSR, IJN, ITA BB)						130
ribbon (main battery hit) (USSR, PA, EU DD)						7.000
ships sunk	65	90	72
XP		400.000		950.000
XP (CV)		135.000
XP (BB)		135.000
XP (CA)		135.000
XP (DD)		135.000
XP (USSR, UK CA)						350.000
base XP		85.000	105.000		150.000	150.000
base XP (CV)			48.000
base XP (BB)			48.000
base XP (CA)			48.000
base XP (DD)			48.000
base XP (USA USSR EU DD)					50.000
base XP (Commonwealth)					30.000
base XP (IJN)				27.000
base XP (USA)				27.000
base XP (USSR)				27.000
base XP (GER)				27.000
base XP (UK)				27.000
base XP (FR)				27.000
base XP (PA)				27.000		25.000
base XP (ITA)				27.000
base XP (all other nations not mentioned before)				14.500
Free XP (CV)							350.000
Free XP (FR, IJN CA)							350.000
Free XP (FR, GER BB)							350.000
Free XP (FR, USSR DD)							350.000
Commander XP (EU)							580.000
Credits	12.000.000	20.202.020	20.202.020			20.202.020
Credits (CV)	4.000.000
Credits (BB)	4.000.000
Credits (CA)	4.000.000
Credits (DD)	4.000.000

Assuming I read all the missions correctly, this is what you're looking at if you wish to grind the Puerto Rico "for free". You'll notice that in order to finish all or even most of the directives, you'll need a wide variety of ships of all classes and nations. You'll also notice that we can celebrate the comeback of beloved and totally not questionable missions such as "sink x number of ships" or "get X number of plane kills". Oh and if you really plan to grind the ship without spending anything, you better have a comfortable chair as for example you're planning on scoring just over 800k base xp over this period, amongst other things. That's 400 games right there if you average 2k base XP.

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And here are the extra missions in case you've got Gorizia:
 

	Stage 1	Stage 2	Stage 3
credits	1.800.000	2.400.000	4.000.000
damage dealt	500.000		750.000
XP		80.000
base XP	5.000
ribbon (citadel)		15
ribbon (main battery hits)		400
Commander XP			100.000
ships sunk			22

Edit: I missed a few missions for stage 6, so if you're looking forward to grinding some 50k base XP in German or French DDs or score 2700 torpedo, rocket or bomb hits, that stage has you covered as well.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

22 minutes ago, aboomination said:

@Crysantos So, is it right that your boosters for the Puerto Rico grind effectively net less progress over time cause they run over a shorter period? So if you wait too long you'll end up having to buy more? Sounds fishy. But may just be me. ANd it's triggering me HARD.

No, you can not buy more.

 

You need to do all of it asap. Even if you get all 3 gold boost you still need to finish 3 directives within the next week just to be able to not play during christmas.

 

If you are unable to do the 7th directive, which you can see from day one, it is required for you to buy the 6k gold boost day one AND finish all remaining 6 directives within 2 days. if you start grinding after christmas you will not be able to get the ship without massive gold investment. And I mean massive! Right now the calculated minimum cost on Reddit for getting PR and not playing a single game is 59k gold. 24k for the 3 boost items and 25k in payment for finishing the ship.

 

And yes, the boost items net less progress over time since they only boost your "build per minute", the longer they run the more progress they will give you. 

 

This is the actual evil part of this event.

 

Yes, evil.

 

The event is specifically designed to hide your real progress, so you see to late if you cmanage to build PR or not. It is a sunk cost falacy scheme. If you do not invest at least 5-6 hours a day, every day, over christmas and are a way above average player, then you will not be able to get her in any way aside from paying tons of gold to finish her. This is also why the still unfinished PR will stay in your port after the event until the next patch, to get you to pay for her.

 

If you start grinding after christmas you will not be able to get her without additional gold payment no matter what, even if you bought the 3 gold boost items day 1. Simply because there is not enough time for your additional boost items to accumulate enough build progress.

[aboomination]

I don't have a problem with the directives - those are transparent and fair. And PR should be the directive 7 reward imo.

I have a problem with the transparency of boosters.How many people will think about this? And why should they? This is bad design imo.

With "more" i meant two instead of one.

@Wischmob_von_Eimer

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

There is no transparency.

 

The event is specifically designed to be as intransparent as possible to lure you into a sunk cost falacy. You could not make this event any more intransparent with less than a week of time to think about the event and less than 5 weeks to actually finishing it after the puiblic announcement.

[MrFingers]

 

Is this what "blind panic" or "damcon Lvl5" looks like?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

24 minutes ago, Takru said:

  

Puerto Rico Marathon

	Stage 1	Stage 2	Stage 3	Stage 4	Stage 5	Stage 6	Stage 7
damage (all)		5.600.000		9.300.000
damage (fire)	165.000
damage(USA, UK, ITA BB)					4.500.000
damage (potential)	2.300.000	36.000.000
damage (potential) (IJN ITA PA CA)					47.000.000
ribbon (fire)	100
ribbon (fire/cit/flood/torp hit)		1510
ribbon (cit/torp hit)			130
ribbon (cap/def/assist)	40
ribbon (2ndary)			4.500
ribbon (plane kill)		300
ribbon (main battery hit) (IJN, FR BB)					1.700
ribbon (fire/flood) (IJN PA DD)					200
ribbon (citadel) (USSR, IJN, ITA BB)						130
ribbon (main battery hit) (USSR, PA, EU DD)						7.000
ships sunk	65	90	72
XP		400.000		950.000
XP (CV)		135.000
XP (BB)		135.000
XP (CA)		135.000
XP (DD)		135.000
XP (USSR, UK CA)						350.000
base XP		85.000	105.000		150.000	150.000
base XP (CV)			48.000
base XP (BB)			48.000
base XP (CA)			48.000
base XP (DD)			48.000
base XP (USA USSR EU DD)					50.000
base XP (Commonwealth)					30.000
base XP (IJN)				27.000
base XP (USA)				27.000
base XP (USSR)				27.000
base XP (GER)				27.000
base XP (UK)				27.000
base XP (FR)				27.000
base XP (PA)				27.000
base XP (ITA)				27.000
base XP (all other nations not mentioned before)				14.500
Free XP (CV)							350.000
Free XP (FR, IJN CA)							350.000
Free XP (FR, GER BB)							350.000
Free XP (FR, USSR DD)							350.000
Commander XP (EU)							580.000
Credits	12.000.000	20.202.020	20.202.020
Credits (CV)	4.000.000
Credits (BB)	4.000.000
Credits (CA)	4.000.000
Credits (DD)	4.000.000

Assuming I read all the missions correctly, this is what you're looking at if you wish to grind the Puerto Rico "for free". You'll notice that in order to finish all or even most of the directives, you'll need a wide variety of ships of all classes and nations. You'll also notice that we can celebrate the comeback of beloved and totally not questionable missions such as "sink x number of ships" or "get X number of plane kills". Oh and if you really plan to grind the ship without spending anything, you better have a comfortable chair as for example you're planning on scoring just over 800k base xp over this period, amongst other things. That's 400 games right there if you average 2k base XP.

-----

And here are the extra missions in case you've got Gorizia:
 

	Stage 1	Stage 2	Stage 3
credits	1.800.000	2.400.000	4.000.000
damage dealt	500.000		750.000
XP		80.000
base XP	5.000
ribbon (citadel)		15
ribbon (main battery hits)		400
Commander XP			100.000
ships sunk			22

 

 

Just.. one.. more... battle tonight....

 

[wot_2016_gunner]

15 minuti fa, MrFingers ha scritto:

 

Is this what "blind panic" or "damcon Lvl5" looks like?

[Hanse77SWE]

I feel that most players will look at this and go "This is undoable." and they won't even try or spend any money on it. I've done every directive that has come out up untill now but when I see this all I feel is "I can't do this."

 

For the average player, this is just one big middlefinger and might as well never happened. No point in even trying.

[Wischmob_von_Eimer]

29 minutes ago, Takru said:

  

Puerto Rico Marathon

Erm ... what?

 

Directive 1:

- 100 fires

- 40 cap/def/assist

- 65 kills

 

Directive 2:

- 1510 fires

- 300 planes

- 90 kills

 

Directive 3:

- 130 citadel hits

- 4500 secondary hits

- 72 kills

 

Directive 4:

- 950k xp (basically a Alaska)

- 8 different 27k base xp missions of which you have to do 4, for 108k base xp

 

Directive 5:

- 1700 BB main gun hits

- 200 fires

- 150k base xp

 

Directive 6:

- 130 citadell hits

- 7000 main battery hits

- 350k xp

- 150k base xp

 

Directive 7:

- 4 x 350k free xp

- 580k commander cp

 

And most of these missions are only doable if you own very specific ships?

 

What the fluff where they smoking to come up with these missions? Half of them are a ridiculous task to do in a single week, most of them do not even have synergies between them while others, like the plane mission, are entirely luck based.

 

Wargaming, please, anyone, explain what the hell is this stuff. This is way beyond "grind", this is literally "grind 2 entire Alaska in free xp in 2 weeks" plus additional crap that is literally impossible to do for anyone. Including unicum level players. How did you come up with these missions? What is the point of them? There is no challenge in something that is impossible to do.

[Takru]

I don't have the relevant patch yet, so I'm just assuming you'll have to do the vast majorities of missions to the point where you'll have to do nigh all of them. IF you require only a few missions per stage AND IF you can then combine several targets into fewer games, then you'll be able to get there faster.

Looking at the requirements of the missions, ie ~800.000 base XP, 1.400.000 free XP I'd guesstimate that with an average of 2.000 base XP per battle and 20.000 free XP, this already means you'll have to play 470 games. Add in additional games for some ribbons you need to finish, extra credits you need to earn or inviting the enemy team to shoot you some more, I'd put that number at 600 games at a bare minimum.

You've got 28 days for PR, 33 for all directives, which means you'll be playing 21,5 games per day. At 15 minutes per game that's about 5 hrs and ~20 minutes playing WoWs per day, every day.

If you don't score an average of 2k base XP, it'll take longer:

(compared to 2k base)
1900 average base XP: 421 battles

1800 average base XP: 444 battles

1700 average base XP: 470 battles

1600 average base XP: 500 battles

1500 average base XP: 533 battles

And that's just the base XP grind, if you usually score less, the Free XP grind at stage 7 will also take longer and we're closer to the realm of 700-800 or more games. At 800 games in 28 days, you're looking forward to about 7 hrs and 10 minutes of straight up warships.

However, if you generally avoid playing random battles and confine yourself to coop, well... I'd argue that it's flat out impossible for any single human being to grind this in Coop only.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, Takru said:

Looking at the requirements of the missions, ie ~800.000 base XP, 1.400.000 free XP I'd guesstimate that with an average of 2.000 base XP per battle and 20.000 free XP, this already means you'll have to play 470 games. Add in additional games for some ribbons you need to finish, extra credits you need to earn or inviting the enemy team to shoot you some more, I'd put that number at 600 games at a bare minimum.

You've got 28 days for PR, 33 for all directives, which means you'll be playing 21,5 games per day. At 15 minutes per game that's about 5 hrs and ~20 minutes playing WoWs per day, every day.

If you don't score an average of 2k base XP, it'll take longer:

(compared to 2k base)
1900 average base XP: 421 battles

1800 average base XP: 444 battles

1700 average base XP: 470 battles

1600 average base XP: 500 battles

1500 average base XP: 533 battles

And that's just the base XP grind, if you usually score lower, the Free XP grind at stage 7 will also take longer.

 

Seems like someone at WG HQ has made the mistake of thinking the old Soviet production quotas were for real... and we don't even have 5 years to complete this plan either...

[CEOMisza]

4 minuty temu, Takru napisał:

Looking at the requirements of the missions, ie ~800.000 base XP, 1.400.000 free XP I'd guesstimate that with an average of 2.000 base XP per battle and 20.000 free XP, this already means you'll have to play 470 games. Add in additional games for some ribbons you need to finish, extra credits you need to earn or inviting the enemy team to shoot you some more, I'd put that number at 600 games at a bare minimum.

You've got 28 days for PR, 33 for all directives, which means you'll be playing 21,5 games per day. At 15 minutes per game that's about 5 hrs and ~20 minutes playing WoWs per day, every day.

If you don't score an average of 2k base XP, it'll take longer:

(compared to 2k base)
1900 average base XP: 421 battles

1800 average base XP: 444 battles

1700 average base XP: 470 battles

1600 average base XP: 500 battles

1500 average base XP: 533 battles

And that's just the base XP grind, if you usually score less, the Free XP grind at stage 7 will also take longer and we're closer to the realm of 700-800 or more games. At 800 games in 28 days, you're looking forward to about 7 hrs and 10 minutes of straight up warships.

I would say this is optimistic

[LaSLauG]

I wanted to grind the Gorizia.
Now, looking at the numbers... Holy sh1t, even that is impossible for me.
WTF WG, what the F... did you do AGAIN?

This directive-grind is beyond insane. It is full on braindead impossible.

And this is only one aspect of the whole sh1tshow that this patch is. Snowflakes are trash compared to last year. Can't wait for all the useless 4 camos per santa crates that i will get for my T10 ships. Fck T2-T4 premium ships too, I guess. Or fck premium ships in general, getting the same thing for premium ships and silver ships, like WTF?!

And Puerto Rico... Oh, boy, this ship building sh1t is even stupider than the NTC-BS that they wanted to do.

 

Sad to see one of my favorite games of all time turning into this huge pile of feces that i don't even want to touch anymore. These are sad days indeed.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, LaSLauG said:

I wanted to grind the Gorizia.
Now, looking at the numbers... Holy sh1t, even that is impossible for me.
WTF WG, what the F... did you do AGAIN?

This directive-grind is beyond insane. It is full on braindead impossible.

And this is only one aspect of the whole sh1tshow that this patch is. Snowflakes are trash compared to last year. Can't wait for all the useless 4 camos per santa crates that i will get for my T10 ships. Fck T2-T4 premium ships too, I guess. Or fck premium ships in general, getting the same thing for premium ships and silver ships, like WTF?!

And Puerto Rico... Oh, boy, this ship building sh1t is even stupider than the NTC-BS that they wanted to do.

 

Sad to see one of my favorite games of all time turning into this huge pile of feces that i don't even want to touch anymore. These are sad days indeed.

 

Is the Gorizia tightly time gated? Or can you still give it a shot? Also, aside from the fact that for some reason the tier X ships no longer award with steal for the snowflake, the rest of the event doesn't look that bad to me.

[ZoidFile]

3 hours ago, Crysantos said:

I understand where you are coming from - but this is why we split this up. If you want to get the Gorizia, you only need to get to the 3rd directive - and you get a Tier VII premium ship. For those who want to get additional steel or boost up their grind towards the TX Puerto Rico, a bigger time investment is needed. We have different player types - there are players who don't have the time to grind as much and they will still be able to get a lot of free Santa Gifts, special rewards, Gorizia, etc. - and for the hardcore guys there is a chance to get the Puerto Rico for free, but it will be a significant challenge. This will be just as challenging for an average player as getting your Bourgogne or a Thunderer.

 

We have a lot of respect for you and I think that if you take a look at all the free content we provide, that it's correct. But the higher the Tier - the higher the requirement. It's the first time we're testing this shipyard and we'll see how it goes. All reward ships have a high requirement - for coal and steel it's more of a long-term goal, while for Puerto Rico it is limited to one longer update. At the end of the decision is up to you - if you don't want to invest that time, you can go for the easier tasks or invest some money to speed up the progress - and if you decide to grind, you will get a fresh, free Tier X within one update.

 

We know this is a significant time investment - but it is a free Tier X. We handed out so many free premium ships this year - and Benham was the exception in terms of time investment, but also the first free Tier IX - and we provide many gifts all around the year with the Anniversary, Bonuscodes, missions, etc. But we have to keep a good balance to make sure our economy is fine - we are generous where we can and we offer opportunities to save money for premium content with playing the game more.

Greetings, Crysantos

All of this Corpspeak would probably mean something, If I didn't exactly know that none of you guys at WG will grind out some 480000+ base XP and 90 kills over the holidays. No you will enjoy the fruits of this Kafkaesque nightmare of an event with your families, while occasionally lecturing the community about "pride and accomplishment".

[Lord_Schoggi]

9 minutes ago, Takru said:

Looking at the requirements of the missions, ie ~800.000 base XP, 1.400.000 free XP I'd guesstimate that with an average of 2.000 base XP per battle and 20.000 free XP, this already means you'll have to play 470 games. Add in additional games for some ribbons you need to finish, extra credits you need to earn or inviting the enemy team to shoot you some more, I'd put that number at 600 games at a bare minimum.

You've got 28 days for PR, 33 for all directives, which means you'll be playing 21,5 games per day. At 15 minutes per game that's about 5 hrs and ~20 minutes playing WoWs per day, every day.

If you don't score an average of 2k base XP, it'll take longer:

(compared to 2k base)
1900 average base XP: 421 battles

1800 average base XP: 444 battles

1700 average base XP: 470 battles

1600 average base XP: 500 battles

1500 average base XP: 533 battles

And that's just the base XP grind, if you usually score less, the Free XP grind at stage 7 will also take longer and we're closer to the realm of 700-800 or more games. At 800 games in 28 days, you're looking forward to about 7 hrs and 10 minutes of straight up warships.

 Good thing than that these days  15min games became rare

[MrFingers]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

Is the Gorizia tightly time gated?

Same duration as the PR-event, but "only" 3 directives needed. Still, even spread out over the time (tomorrow -> half of january) we're looking at way more effort required than the Prinz Eitel Friedrich. With less rewards and no steel to boot.

[Ze_Reckless]

4 minutes ago, LaSLauG said:

Sad to see one of my favorite games of all time turning into this huge pile of feces that i don't even want to touch anymore. These are sad days indeed.

This is just WG's way of saying Merry Christmas to you. 

[Jethro_Grey]

Some of these requirements seem specifically designed to make players use up all their special camos and signals. 

 

 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

1 minute ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Some of these requirements seem specifically designed to make players use up all their special camos and signals. 

 

 

 

I'd have to say worth doing only if you can use them on a ship/captain etc that actually benefits from that apart from the directives themselves.

[Jethro_Grey]

1 minute ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

I'd have to say worth doing only if you can use them on a ship/captain etc that actually benefits from that apart from the directives themselves.

I have hundreds of camos and between 250 and 500 of the dragon signals. 

I‘m not gonna waste a single one of them on this grind. 

 

And i don’t need to! 

Yolo-ing coop and ranked to get the stages done doesn’t require any camos and signals at all. 

 

This event is the definition of ‘throw enough $hit at the wall, some of it gonna stick’. 

 

And that’s exactly how i’m gonna play it. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, Jethro_Grey said:

I have hundreds of camos and between 250 and 500 of the dragon signals. 

I‘m not gonna waste a single one of them on this grind. 

 

And i don’t need to! 

Yolo-ing coop and ranked to get the stages done doesn’t require any camos and signals at all. 

 

This event is the definition of ‘throw enough $hit at the wall, some of it gonna stick’. 

 

And that’s exactly how i’m gonna play it. 

 

I've chosen to use those under very specific circumstance, like when I was doing the legendary module missions for the Yamato and the Shimakaze, for instance, or when I've wanted to boost up the grind on some high tier ships. I may have used them sparingly during some events, but I've been careful to only use them so that I been able to use them either to grind XP for ships, or captain, or more credits on my premium ships.

[WWDragon]

5 hours ago, Crysantos said:

We know this is a significant time investment - but it is a free Tier X.

No, its not ... moment you said time investment its the moment its NOT free.

And none of this look as a "significant" but rather as "hellish", if this is true I am not even going to bother and I dont care if its a Tier X ... its a scale up Alaska and you are asking people to grind WELL OVER TWO ALASKAS!