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[Afghanicus]

 

21 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

To be fair though, even by just using the regular F2P grind you can get to this stage.

Oh really? Can you explain me how on earth can some F2P can even attempt completing a fraction of this event?

 

Have you seen the numbers needed? 

 

More than grinding several lines. It's easier to get Ohio than Puerto Rico 

 

20 hours ago, Allied_Winter said:

According to a few forumites I've read: Already a few players on EU and NA.

 

Well, there will always be whales overpaying for everything. Those are the guys WG focuses on, while they screw the rest of the playerbase which is like 99.x%.

[Allied_Winter]

5 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

Can you explain me how on earth can some F2P can even attempt completing a fraction of this event?

 

The point from which you can buy the remaining Puerto Rico is stage 18/36 (so half the grind). It doesn't matter if you get there via dubloon boosters or via unlockable boosters. That's all what I was saying.

 

 

 

[Afghanicus]

2 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

The point from which you can buy the remaining Puerto Rico is stage 18/36 (so half the grind). It doesn't matter if you get there via dubloon boosters or via unlockable boosters. That's all what I was saying.

Buying is not something F2P does.

 

Besides that, have you seen the insane missions needed to get to half the construction?

 

Have you seen the insane numbers needed to complete each one?

 

Have you noticed how WG intentionally screwed up the synergy of the missions so you cannot complete more than one at a time?

 

It's obvious what they tried to do but it's back-lashing on them. HARD. (very deserved though) 

[Allied_Winter]

1 minute ago, Palubarac said:

Buying is not something F2P does.

That wasn't the point. The initial comment I was replying to, was - as I read it - the fact that only if you buy the three dubloon boosters you'd get access to buying the ship later down the road. Which is not true. Everybody that reaches stage 18, can do so.

 

Nothing more that I was referring to. If a (mostly) F2P player then pays or not wasn't part of my comment. But you're right, though I could've worded it differently and referred to: Players that don't want to speed up the grinding process by using the dubloon boosters but rather like to spend their money (e.g. stocked up dubloons) on finishing the PR.

 

Better?

 

And yes, I've seen the missions.

[Afghanicus]

28 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

That wasn't the point. The initial comment I was replying to, was - as I read it - the fact that only if you buy the three dubloon boosters you'd get access to buying the ship later down the road. Which is not true. Everybody that reaches stage 18, can do so.

 

Nothing more that I was referring to. If a (mostly) F2P player then pays or not wasn't part of my comment. But you're right, though I could've worded it differently and referred to: Players that don't want to speed up the grinding process by using the dubloon boosters but rather like to spend their money (e.g. stocked up dubloons) on finishing the PR.

 

Better?

 

And yes, I've seen the missions.

Yeah, we were going different paths in the discussions. It's better now :)

 

Nevertheless, the missions are far from insane and I can't grasp how did they come up with those numbers.

 

Since you've seen them... what do you think about them?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

19 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

And yes, I've seen the missions.

 

And kept your sanity?

[Allied_Winter]

6 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

And kept your sanity?

Yes? Why should I lose it? The PR isn't bothering me in the slightest way. I took a look at them, said "Nope" and move on. If somebody asks me if they should, I'll give them a thorough analysis of the pros and cons.

 

So .... nothing to lose my sanity about. Or is there?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

Yes? Why should I lose it? The PR isn't bothering me in the slightest way. I took a look at them, said "Nope" and move on. If somebody asks me if they should, I'll give them a thorough analysis of the pros and cons.

 

So .... nothing to lose my sanity about. Or is there?

 

Well.. no, if you can close the door on the PR, nail it shut tight and hope no one ever tries to open it...

[Allied_Winter]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

if you can close the door on the PR, nail it shut tight and hope no one ever tries to open it

If you don't want to. I certainly won't. But others? Their time/money, their choice.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

Just now, Allied_Winter said:

If you don't want to. I certainly won't. But others? Their time/money, their choice.

 

You don't happen to know if WG has a policy in place in case there are people who pay some money towards the PR shipbuilding like the any number of the premium boosters but fail to complete the grind and are nonetheless unwilling to foot up the whole bill of frankly outrageous 59k doubloons for completing it?

[Allied_Winter]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

You don't happen to know if WG has a policy in place in case there are people who pay some money towards the PR shipbuilding like the any number of the premium boosters but fail to complete the grind and are nonetheless unwilling to foot up the whole bill of frankly outrageous 59k doubloons for completing it?

Sorry, I don't seem to understand completely: Are you asking if there's a policy that WG refunds players who spent the dubloons for the boosters but do not manage to the PR and then are unwilling to spend more dubloons to finish her?

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

Sorry, I don't seem to understand completely: Are you asking if there's a policy that WG refunds players who spent the dubloons for the boosters but do not manage to the PR and then are unwilling to spend more dubloons to finish her?

 

Yes, that is what I am asking. Firm nod.

[peter_943_2017]

i honestly believe games like this are started and created by gamers and when they grow bigger slowly taken over by money minded people,

when i look at this event i can only conclude that the money minded people completly taken over now.

and be honest guys  are those directives a bet,who can come up with the most insane directive,if so who won

[Allied_Winter]

2 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

Yes, that is what I am asking. Firm nod.

Ah ok. I doubt there is because ... look at what the Puerto Rico drops while you build here. Even if you finish at ... let's say stage four. Then you get ... let's see:

 

 

A bunch of signals, FXP, Coal, Anniversary containers, christmas conatiners, premium time and one T8 perma camo.

 

So I assume WG will just point at these and say: "Look without the dubloon boosters, you wouldn't have been able to get any of these, sooo... no refund." 

[Afghanicus]

11 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

You don't happen to know if WG has a policy in place in case there are people who pay some money towards the PR shipbuilding like the any number of the premium boosters but fail to complete the grind and are nonetheless unwilling to foot up the whole bill of frankly outrageous 59k doubloons for completing it?

You can't be serious.

 

That's the pinnacle of their plan for this event anyways.

 

Get you to spend doubloons on boosters (the first one being the cheapest one as in all addictive scenarios) and then when you're getting close to the deadline and not near finishing building the PR, you're left with 2 options:

 

1. Accept you wasted all that time and money on something you won't even get

2. Paying up xx,xxx doubloons to obtain her because you don't want to go on with the fact that you wasted so much time and money

 

And their spreadsheets say that people will fall for the 2nd option because of... humans and their gambling nature.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

5 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said:

Ah ok. I doubt there is because ... look at what the Puerto Rico drops while you build here. Even if you finish at ... let's say stage four. Then you get ... let's see:

 

 

A bunch of signals, FXP, Coal, Anniversary containers, christmas conatiners, premium time and one T8 perma camo.

 

So I assume WG will just point at these and say: "Look without the dubloon boosters, you wouldn't have been able to get any of these, sooo... no refund." 

 

1 minute ago, Palubarac said:

You can't be serious.

 

That's the pinnacle of their plan for this event anyways.

 

Get you to spend doubloons on boosters (the first one being the cheapest one as in all addictive scenarios) and then when you're getting close to the deadline and not near finishing building the PR, you're left with 2 options:

 

1. Accept you wasted all that time and money on something you won't even get

2. Paying up xx,xxx doubloons to obtain her because you don't want to go on with the fact that you wasted so much time and money

 

And their spreadsheets say that people will fall for the 2nd option because of... humans and their gambling nature.

 

Ah.. sadly I see the logic behind this.

 

I just don't think it's quite fair!

 

The Benham grind which has been mentioned was much fairer, IMO. You could play and grind and see how far that took you. Then decide how much if any you wanted to spend to finish it and get your ship...

 

The cynic in me suspects the Benham didn't gross them as much as WG spreadsheet had projected.

[Afghanicus]

5 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

 

 

Ah.. sadly I see the logic behind this.

 

I just don't think it's quite fair!

 

The Benham grind which has been mentioned was much fairer, IMO. You could play and grind and see how far that took you. Then decide how much if any you wanted to spend to finish it and get your ship...

 

The cynic in me suspects the Benham didn't gross them as much as WG spreadsheet had projected.

Well, getting Benham (which I obtained for fee) and Puerto Rico is not comparable at all.

 

Not only because of the amount of grind required (or money if you don't have the time) but because of the way the event has been laid out.

 

As you said, with Benham you could exactly see how much time you need playing, how many daily missions you have to complete and then how much you have to pay at the end to compensate for the days you didn't play. All clear and transparent.

 

With Puerto Rico is a whole other story - let's make it as vague as possible so that the players have no idea how much time they need to invest in this. Let's force them to use a bunch of spreadsheets which will be an approximation of the ones we have. Let's make the whole event a mystery and offer a bunch of 'shortcuts' for doubloons, 24k at the beginning and another 35k at the end. Yeah, that will work.

 

I hope WG is happy with the few people that spent over 200 euros on PR at the expense of screwing the rest of the playerbase.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

5 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

Well, getting Benham (which I obtained for fee) and Puerto Rico is not comparable at all.

 

Not only because of the amount of grind required (or money if you don't have the time) but because of the way the event has been laid out.

 

As you said, with Benham you could exactly see how much time you need playing, how many daily missions you have to complete and then how much you have to pay at the end to compensate for the days you didn't play. All clear and transparent.

 

With Puerto Rico is a whole other story - let's make it as vague as possible so that the players have no idea how much time they need to invest in this. Let's force them to use a bunch of spreadsheets which will be an approximation of the ones we have. Let's make the whole event a mystery and offer a bunch of 'shortcuts' for doubloons, 24k at the beginning and another 35k at the end. Yeah, that will work.

 

I hope WG is happy with the few people that spent over 200 euros on PR at the expense of screwing the rest of the playerbase.

 

So far we seen the reaction on the Forums, Reddit and some videos but... what will happen when the time runs out in January...

[Afghanicus]

4 minutes ago, Karasu_Hidesuke said:

So far we seen the reaction on the Forums, Reddit and some videos but... what will happen when the time runs out in January...

Probably nothing. They will try to ignore all this utter mess until it's over and then estimate the damage done and if it was worth it or not.

 

I believe there will be irreparable damage done to the reputation and trust but I guess they are used to that already. 

[Karasu_Browarszky]

2 minutes ago, Palubarac said:

Probably nothing. They will try to ignore all this utter mess until it's over and then estimate the damage done and if it was worth it or not.

 

I believe there will be irreparable damage done to the reputation and trust but I guess they are used to that already. 

 

In any case... I suggest we step as far away from the fan as we can.

[Jethro_Grey]

Not sure if WG should make titles like the following, considering the storm they created…  

 

[wot_2016_gunner]

14 minuti fa, Jethro_Grey ha scritto:

Not sure if WG should make titles like the following, considering the storm they created…  

 

They forgot "... S**t-storm..."

[Karasu_Browarszky]

36 minutes ago, wot_2016_gunner said:

They forgot "... S**t-storm..."

 

The Yanks are prudes. Such words get vetoed out from their [edited]tionaries.

[Jethro_Grey]

this is awesome…  ...and sad at the same time!

 

[TheComedian1983]

If i translate this directly on forum i will be banned right?