[AMAT] Redfoxrommy Beta Tester 220 posts 12,247 battles Report post #1 Posted December 4, 2019 Hi guys/girls here is my Q. İ am playing amagi when i finnished exp requarmnets should i play with İzumo or free ezp her and take Yamato . From my exp. İzumo is a bad ship . İ have many battles against it and nearly all end for my benefit. so What do you think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #2 Posted December 4, 2019 No. You need the gameplay experience for Tier X. And she is decent now. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #3 Posted December 4, 2019 She was bad before the balance patch, now she is a fine T9, very accurate Also you can buy special - fexp ships, so I would safe them, or if you want to spent them on progressing, than only on modules, guns, hulls etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-M] Isoruku_Yamamoto Players 1,437 posts 16,208 battles Report post #4 Posted December 4, 2019 The izumo is, and has always been, a very strong and potent ship. It has weaknesses even more pronounced than the Yamato, but playing through her will help you become a good Yamato captain. Id say using free XP to shorten the grind by getting better modules is not necessarily a bad idea, but skipping the entire grind is. The Izumo and Yamato both share the same slow, sluggish playstyle that in its own way is also very elegant, and thats something to get used to really. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #5 Posted December 4, 2019 23 hours ago, Isoruku_Yamamoto said: The izumo is, and has always been, a very strong and potent ship. It was pretty bad, but got huge buffs, I I remember correctly, it was Sigma 1.8 to 2.1 and high deck armor (40mm? 57mm) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K_R_T] SirAmra Alpha Tester 1,075 posts Report post #6 Posted December 4, 2019 I grinded out every module on that ship. And honestly it was a painless grind. And all of that was before the buffs on her. And Pete here has a valid point also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMAT] Redfoxrommy Beta Tester 220 posts 12,247 battles Report post #7 Posted December 5, 2019 tnx guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #8 Posted December 5, 2019 Izumo was never really bad, people whining about how bad she was sucked at positioning and got burnt down. Her guns were always potent, and now after the buff she's very decent. Keep your fxp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #9 Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain_Newman said: Izumo was never really bad, people whining about how bad she was sucked at positioning and got burnt down. Her guns were always potent, and now after the buff she's very decent. Keep your fxp. She was pretty bad, combining very high detection with poor armor and a horrible stock grind with the only real redeeming quality was that you got the Yamato in the end. Now with the deck plating buff she is a lot more survivable, and the accuracy made her guns much more dealdy and comfortable to use. She is not bad anymore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,844 battles Report post #10 Posted December 5, 2019 23 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said: high deck armor (40mm?) 57mm (same as Yamasushi) iirc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11 Posted December 5, 2019 Imo, free exp to hull C and grind from there. Ship is decent, but stock rudder shift is absolute trash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_DRK_] Vogelhund Beta Tester 216 posts Report post #12 Posted December 6, 2019 Izumo is godlike keep angling and you life forever. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-N5C-] Nit0 Players 343 posts 20,869 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2019 I'm grinding through Izumo for second time now (reset tech tree) and I really enjoy this ship with the buffs it got to protection and accuracy. Absolutely not a bad ship, worth grinding through. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LVLX] Jean_Bart Players 197 posts Report post #14 Posted December 21, 2019 Izumo is indeed a bad ship, if you have abundance of fee XP and lack of nerves or time - go for Yamato right away! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-QQ-] Kejoz Players 100 posts 7,115 battles Report post #15 Posted January 11, 2020 I've just bought the Izumo and oh boy, this feels like a huge downgrade from the awsome Amagi. Sure, my ship i stock but i doubt that it will get any better :( 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[--] Captain_Newman Players 2,147 posts 16,474 battles Report post #16 Posted January 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kejoz said: I've just bought the Izumo and oh boy, this feels like a huge downgrade from the awsome Amagi. Sure, my ship i stock but i doubt that it will get any better :( You can't judge any ship in this game based on it's stock performance, they are all bad before the upgrades. Yes, it does get a lot better when upgraded. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COAL] rehan_259 [COAL] Players 1 post 12,055 battles Report post #17 Posted March 10, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 3:43 AM, Kejoz said: I've just bought the Izumo and oh boy, this feels like a huge downgrade from the awsome Amagi. Sure, my ship i stock but i doubt that it will get any better :( She is not bad at all, very accurate guns, helps you play with the big boy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #18 Posted March 10, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 11:43 PM, Kejoz said: I've just bought the Izumo and oh boy, this feels like a huge downgrade from the awsome Amagi. Sure, my ship i stock but i doubt that it will get any better :( It is different. Amagi is more mobile and a battlecruiser. Amagi's strength is to get around. Izumo is a proto-yamato and teaches you how to Yamato. Slow, rudder is slow (turning circle is pretty decent though), but quite tanky and highly accurate guns with tons of penetration. So, your strength shifts from good mobility to excellent gunnery. Izumo guns are better in basically every imaginable way to Amagi, except for gun count, but you get reload mod, so you don't lose out on dpm really. But sigma goes from mediocre 1.8 to 2.0, the shell velocity goes from mediocre to super fast, the penetration goes from T8 grade to T10 grade (same as Republique, only rivalled by Musashi at T9, which beats you at close range, but gets beaten at long range), the layout, while weird, is more conventional than Amagi's (2x3 forward, 1x3 rearward is basically what most modern BBs get. Just because your third turret is in front of the superstructure doesn't change much. Yes, you cannot fire directly behind, but you'd want to fire over the shoulder anyway if kiting, to get all three turrets on target). Additionally, unlike Amagi with 32 mm everywhere and a weak belt, the Izumo gets a proper BB belt and 57 mm main deck immune to most cruiser HE and almost no superstructure to farm. And the C hull changes a lot, as rudder shift drops from 26s to 19s. Still slow, but notable improvement. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SHAFT] viceadmiral123 Players 1,221 posts 29,485 battles Report post #19 Posted March 10, 2020 On 12/4/2019 at 1:32 PM, Redfoxrommy said: Hi guys/girls here is my Q. İ am playing amagi when i finnished exp requarmnets should i play with İzumo or free ezp her and take Yamato . From my exp. İzumo is a bad ship . İ have many battles against it and nearly all end for my benefit. so What do you think. It is always personal preference which ships to skip because you don't enjoy them. I personally wouldn't skip Izumo, maybe use free EXP to get hull or gun range. She has very different gameplay compared to Amagi but it's not a worse ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[N_R_A] Hopeless_Guppy Players 3,753 posts Report post #20 Posted March 13, 2020 On 12/6/2019 at 10:39 AM, Vogelhund said: Izumo is godlike keep angling and you life forever. Now do you bow tank,or flank, and this question also applies to the Whyzumo,because I can make neither of them work, got the Izumo ages ago as I have the Yamato on this account, and got lucky (although I am questioning that, lol) with a cheap box on my alt 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUKED] blindhai Players 472 posts 12,974 battles Report post #21 Posted March 13, 2020 I did 100 Battles in it and i really liked it. Dont expect to play a mobile ship, but the guns were nice. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #22 Posted March 13, 2020 On 12/4/2019 at 11:32 AM, Redfoxrommy said: İ am playing amagi when i finnished exp requarmnets should i play with İzumo If Izumo is anything like Bajie. I would freexp it and jump straight to Yamato. Bajie is a terrible ship to play, if Izumo is the same way. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LMER] vaapad_master Alpha Tester 249 posts 5,978 battles Report post #23 Posted March 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 11:43 PM, Kejoz said: I've just bought the Izumo and oh boy, this feels like a huge downgrade from the awsome Amagi. Sure, my ship i stock but i doubt that it will get any better :( I feel entirely opposite. I found Amagi guns to be terrible and Izumo guns hundred times better since I can actually reliably hit what I aim. I am glad i used 40k or so freexp to get rid of Amagi forever. I am never playing that ship again. I didn't hate it but those shotgun inaccurate guns aren't for me. Izumo is a better ship for me even completely stock as its for me now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-QQ-] Kejoz Players 100 posts 7,115 battles Report post #24 Posted March 15, 2020 The biggest problem of Izumo is the awkward third turret that works well while kiting but is a burden during a push. Nelson style layout would be much better for Izumo as it would give a bit of flexibility during combat. Nagato and Amagi had speed as the feature redeeming their weaknesses, Izumo forces you into the boring meta of stationary gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #25 Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 10:04 PM, MRGTB said: If Izumo is anything like Bajie. I would freexp it and jump straight to Yamato. Bajie is a terrible ship to play, if Izumo is the same way. Izumo and the almost better Baijie are certainly not terrible. If you cannot work with these ships, no reason to go for Yamato. They are basically the same playstyle. 48 minutes ago, Kejoz said: The biggest problem of Izumo is the awkward third turret that works well while kiting but is a burden during a push. Nelson style layout would be much better for Izumo as it would give a bit of flexibility during combat. Nagato and Amagi had speed as the feature redeeming their weaknesses, Izumo forces you into the boring meta of stationary gameplay. Izumo prepares you for Yamato. Yamato's third turret also isn't forward. Yamato also isn't fast and also has a slow rudder. Yamato's citadel is even easier to hit than Izumo's. Izumo basically eases players from the style of Nagato and Amagi into the play style of Yamato. If people don't like that... why get a Yamato? 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites